Need to create a Separate Wifi Network @ Office

At my small biz, I have AT&T (formerly Bellsouth) High Speed DSL... Runs into a Motorla DSL Modem for the Internet connection, then to a Cisco PIX for our Firewall. I can hang an Airport off the network, but our iOS devices can't pull Exchange Email if connected to the wifi.
So I'd like to hang the Airport off the DSL Modem... I first tried with an old Airport Express, wifi network was fine, but couldn't get Internet no matter how I set it up. The DSL Modem is making the connection, but I'm unsure how I create the Separate Wifi Network with the Airport connected directly to it.
I'm going to use a Time Capsule A1254 rather than the Airport Express... a little direction would certainly help.
Thanks! Scott

The Motorola is a Netopia 3347-02-1022 gateway device. We do authenticate with PPPoE, which is being managed on the 3347. We have a static IP, the PIX gets the internet from the 3347, our domain controller handles DHCP.
I assume that you are getting a single static Public IP address from your ISP and that is is "applied" to the 3347 gateway's WAN interface ... correct? I am also assuming that the 3347 is handling the NAT service with your DC handling DHCP for the issuance of Private IP addresses on the local network.
The AirPorts are consumer-grade routers and do not offer any VLAN functionality ... other than the Guest network feature of the 802.11n Extremes and Time Capsules. As such, any VLAN-type network "subnetting" would not be possible. At best, you can enable NAT & DHCP in combination to allow the wired/wireless networks behind the AirPort's NAT to have a different Private IP address range. Note: There is no option to disable DHCP separately with the AirPorts. You basically have three options: 1) NAT & DHCP enabled, 2) NAT disabled & DHCP enabled, or 3) Both NAT & DHCP disabled. These options are controlled with the Connection Sharing option on the Internet Connection tab of the AirPort Utility.

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HT2421 If I attach a hard drive to the USB port, can I access it from the wired network, while simultaneously creating a separate wifi network with NO access to the hard drive?

I already have a wireless network (call it Network A) with connectivity to various wired and wireless devices. I have a USB hard drive that I directly attach to my MacBook Air. I use it for Time Machine backups and general storage. I would like to move this drive to an AirPort Extreme. I would like to continue to be able to reach it via Network A, but also use the AirPort to create a guest Network (Network B). I don't want the guest network to access the hard drive.
Now, I know I can plug a hub into the USB port and put (I hear up to 3) hard drives on it. Can I determine which ones are accessable by Network A, and by Network B?
Bonzo...

Several things to consider.
You cannot create a wireless network for guests if the AE is bridged. It has to be the main router in the network.
You cannot use the existing TM backups on the USB drive.. if you plug into a network it will need to be wiped.. and only AC model can produce reliable TM backups.. the earlier models are not reliable for TM backups.
See http://pondini.org/TM/Airport.html
These two factors alone may be enough to make you reconsider.
If you can create a guest network.. and you can overcome the limitations of airdisks.. then any person on the guest network should not be able to access the disk drive.. but if you wish to go ahead Bob Timmons might be able to confirm it.. I stay away from USB drives on routers.. I do not and will not use a router as a NAS.. it is underpowered and simply unsuitable long term.. a cheap single disk NAS is many times faster.. more reliable.. and has a marvellous thing called backup.. no USB disk or even internal disk in a TC can back itself up. .nor can TM backup network drives.. so any data you store on a USB drive is going to be gone one day.. unless you go to great lengths to back it up .. to where.. another USB drive plugged into another router somewhere.. the definition of slow.. should be copying files between two usb drives in an apple network using wireless. You will experience new levels of pain and suffering.. likened to the belly of the Sarlacc.

Using Airport Express as separate wifi network vs extender with Time Capsule?

Hello all. I recently converted my home computer network from Windows/PC based to an iMac with Time Capsule. On my previous setup, I had a Cisco/Linksys router with wifi, and I also had two Airport Expresses in separate areas of the house where the Linksys had a weak signal. Obviously, I had the Airport Expresses set up as "separate" wifi networks, as they could not be used as network extenders with the Linksys. This setup seemed to work really good, as the 3 wifi networks provided good blanket coverage in all parts of the house. Each network also seemed to "hand-off" to the other pretty well, meaning that Airport Express 1 would show as the active network when you moved far enough away from the Linksys (or insert any of the network names here, even though I'm pretty sure that the device accessing the network has more to do with this than the networks themselves). In particular, the speeds that I got from the Airport Expresses actually eclipsed the speeds that I would get from the Linksys wifi.
My issue is that after I converted everything, I left the Airport Expresses as "separate networks" and essentially removed the Linksys/Cisco router and replaced it with the Time Capsule. So I still have 3 separate wifi networks, just like before, with the Time Capsule network taking the place of the Linksys wifi network. While the Linksys and the Airport Expresses seemed to co-exist together nicely, I get the feeling that the TC and the AEs are somehow working against each other or at least competing with each other for bandwidth. For example, if I have my iPhone right beside my iMac and TC, and I run a speed test on the iPhone using the TC wifi network, I get download and upload speeds in the range that I am expecting (30-40 mbps download). However, when I walk down the hallway to the other end of the house, the TC tends to remain the dominant wifi network, even when I am in the same room with one of the AEs (this is where they used to "hand off" nicely between networks). When you run a speed test in this location still on the TC wifi, the speed drops down to 5-7 mbps, and worse, I believe the signal becomes inconsistent because webpages and data often seem to be freezing in the middle of downloading. I understand that the distance from the TC is causing this, because my solution has been to manually switch from the TC to the closest AE, and that fixes the issue. Run a speed test after I manually switch to the closest AE when I am in the same room as an AE, and the speeds pop back up to 30-40 mbps.
My question is this: would switching the AEs to "extenders" of the TC wifi network help this issue? Honestly, my laziness was one reason that I did not do this when I setup the TC initially, because I have several devices that access the AE wifi networks that I'd have to update with the new network name and password. Everything was working great before, and I just didn't want to upset the apple cart. But if I have created an unfriendly environment between the TC and the two AEs, I certainly have no problem making the change now. I just wasn't sure if making this change would fix my problem or not. I know it's a mundane thing, but I'd like to be able to roam the house without continuously having to manually switch between wifi networks to get a consistent signal.
Sorry if this is a simple issue. I am admittedly a newbie with the TC and its interaction with the AEs.
Thanks in advance!!

It is not a simple issue.
Exactly which method works best is going to take some experimentation.
The way you are trying to set it up as a roaming network is generally considered the best.. but the devices like iphones do not hand off neatly.
It is interesting that they in fact used to hand off better using the Linksys.. which could be due to its poorer range. The new TC having so much better range is causing the phones to not swap "towers" to the local express.
Test it with a Mac laptop.. as generally they do hand off better.
I cannot quite figure out if you are using roaming correctly. All the wireless should have identical names, with identical security setting and passwords.
The only thing that should be different is wireless channels on each item. And you are likely just using auto anyway.
So each device is creating a wireless network. And for 2.4ghz one should be channel 1, then another channel 6 and another channel 11. For 5ghz it will be same idea but there are more channels available.
When you extend wireless, everything runs the same channel. But the wireless speed is reduced. You must disconnect ethernet to each of the expresses.. and the problem is your 30-40mbps will reduce permanently to 15-20mbps for all clients. So take your choice.. 15-20mbps for all clients forced to double hop is better than 5-7mbps which you experience now when you walk around.. although I am not sure how much browsing you do whilst walking. You may need to compromise which is the better out of several not great alternatives.
I would have a test.. which is wrong btw.. but I have heard that it works.
In your roaming network at the present time. Try setting each router to a manual wireless channel.. and fix all of them the same. So for instance, set 2.4ghz to channel 11. Try fixing the 5ghz as well, say the TC is defaulting to 149, it might not actually respond to manual wireless channels.. you will need to test this.. say set to 36 or 40 and see if the TC is actually changed.. if not just set all the expresses to 149 as well. What you are doing is trying to reinforce the wireless in each area.. but this is actually wrong. So all will have same wireless name and same security wpa2 personal is the only valid one.. and all the same password.
Test with a few clients and see if the results give you decent local speeds as well as better roaming.. once you decide which to do, then you will need to change all the clients.

Happy accident?: AirPlay available on separate wifi networks

I have an apple airport express version 2011 hooked up to my ISP issued Zyxel modem/router. I use the airport express for a 5ghz signal that I use to stream Netflix and then mirror back onto apple tv for viewing in the living room. From my tests I need the 5 ghz to handle the bandwidth requirements to stream Netflix to laptop and then stream back to apple tv.
The drawback is that I can't have my iPhone 4 on the same network because it doesn't support 5ghz. Nevertheless I have my Zyxel modem/router shooting a 2.4 ghz signal. While the iPhone 4 is connected to the modem/router wifi network, I am able to send music from my iPhone 4 to airport express even though they are on separate wifi networks (although the airport express is connected to Zyxel modem/router through an Ethernet cable). The airplay icon occasionally disappears and a restart of the phone or app does not make it reappear.
What gives? Fom the apple literature, this is not supposed to be possible. I am wanting to understand this because I will soon buy a dd wrt flashed router and if my current setup is more than a mere fluke, I'll purchase a cheaper router with the intention of hardwiring apple tv while using iPhone 4 as a remote on a separate wifi network. That way I won't have to buy a more expensive router simply to have a dual band network going. I plan to use the dd wrt router with VPN installed to stream Netflix to apple tv directly. too bad VPN services do not support installation on airport extreme.
Your insights are appreciated. Thanks.

Interesting hypothesis B-rock. I could try contacting the network administrator but my guess is that I'll be met with a blank look when I ask for that! Still can't be bad to try!
Another piece of "anecdotal" evidence for you. At the local garden centre (which is part of a chain) I used to be able to connect - no problem. Then suddenly all connections failed - at all locations. I am leaning towards believing that they have changed routers to more "modern" ones and for some reason these new routers won't allow connection to an iPod/iPad etc. As yet I cannot confirm this or otherwise and unless someone comes up with a bright idea I'm left with the feeling that unless the network administrator recognises that he/she needs to create a network that works with iPads/iPhones etc we're doomed. I noticed that the next table over using a PC had no problems! Grrrr.

Does the RE1000 create a second wifi network w seperate SSID?

I just bought the Netgear and I don't like it because it creates a second wifi network with a second SSID. I just want to be on the same network and not have to associate all my devices with a second network.
Does the RE1000 create a second SSID network?

By default each wireless device has their own network name. You need to make sure that the RE1000 will have the same wireless settings as your Netgear router that way you will be able to extend the range of your network.

I have an itunes account. However, I need to copy music onto a different iPod than my own. How do I do that? Do I need to create a separate iTunes account for that iPod?

I have an itunes account. However, I need to copy music onto a different iPod than my own. How do I do that? Do I need to create a separate iTunes account for that iPod?

An account means an iTunes Store account which is an online service. Do you mean that, or do you mean a library on a computer?
iOS devices can only be synced to one iTunes library at a time. You can sync that iPod to your account but it will wipe everything currently on it.
iTunes: Syncing media content to iOS devices and iPod - http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201253 - detailed example: https://discussions.apple.com/message/18860187#18860187
If you use manual syncing, you can sync items from more than one iTunes library to your iPod. (You can sync iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad with only one iTunes library.) When manually managing content, you can add content from multiple libraries to your iPod or iPad. Even when manually managing music, some content may be available from only one library at time. This includes all content on iPhone and video content on iPod and iPad. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12113 and http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1202
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Using Time Capsule as a second, separate wifi network?

I hope someone can solve this little riddle that I've been mucking around with for a couple of days now.
I have an existing wireless network, connected to the internet via an old Belkin wireless modem/router. I have an iMac and various other devices successfully connected to this Belkin network. But the other day I purchased a HD media player to stream vidoes, etc from my iMac to my TV. The problem is that the media player won't connect to the Belkin wireless network no matter what I try.
I also have a Time Capsule that I use solely as a back-up disk, connected via ethernet cable directly to my iMac, with wifi switched off. So I had the bright idea to use the TC to set up a wholly separate wifi network simply to connect the media player to my iMac, Long story short, it kinda worked but ended up spiralling me into a whole world of pain with the TC which I've only just managed to correct.
Basically I was in fact able to connect the media player to the TC wifi network but was only able to navigate my way to the Time Capsule itself, not to the actual iMac. So I aborted but that's when all the trouble started; trying to switch off the wifi on the Time Capsule...!
So my question comes down to this: Is it possible to have the iMac connected to the internet via the Belkin wifi router/modem and also have the TC act as a secondary wifi network which is solely an access point for other devices to connect to the iMac? Ideally the iMac might also then act as a gateway/proxy for the other devices to connect to the internet (but this is not critical, just an idea to possibly take full advantage of the capabilities of the new media player...).
It sounds feasible to me but I think I'm getting a little out of my depth...

If the Belkin is acting as a modem, put it in bridge mode and turn off its wifi, connect the TC to it via Ethernet cable, set up PPPoE on the TC to connect to your ISP and use the TC as the router for everything on your LAN.

Creating a local wifi network between macbook and iphone

Hi there
I'm in a hotel and want to move some files to my iphone, but the computer I have isn't my synching machine. I would like to create a wifi network that the iphone and the macbook can both join. I also have an older airport express on hand, and am using Snow Leopard on a newer macbook pro.
I've tried creating a wifi network on the macbook and joining from the iphone, but the iphone can't see the network even when specified manually.
I've also tried making a network with the airport express, but the same thing happens as with the macbook.
I feel like this should be do-able, but I'm missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,
I have been trying this for days now without success! I seem to create a computer to computer network ok (although I dont know if I should use dhcp or dhcp with manual or manual ip setting..??), and my iphone recognises the wifi name I give it.... but shows a different ip address!
and when I try the desired app (iosc), it doesnt seem to be transmitting any iosc data to my max/msp patch. Is there a simple test to check if the iphone is actually connecting ? - even though the ip addresses are different (weird!?)..
any help very much appreciated...

How to create a bigger wifi network?

Hello,
I am a macbook user and I have a virgin superhub in the front room in my house, can I put a airport express at the back of the house and connect to the virgin superhub to get a bigger wifi network and maybe get a wifi signal in the garden?
thanks for any suggestions.

but I could do it with 2 airport express units?
Yes, one AirPort Express would need to be located in the vicinity of the hub. In order to extend wirelessly, the second AirPort Express would need to be located approximately half way between the first Express and the garden area.
Any walls, ceilings, or other obstructions in the signal path between the AirPorts and the garden area will really absorb the signal quickly, so you will need to minimize obstructions as much as possible.
You never really know how well....or if....wireless connections will work for your purposes until you try things out in your home. For that reason, if you decide to give it a try with two AirPorts, it might be a good idea to understand the store's return policies before you buy.

Can I create two separate wireless networks?

At this time I am using my own wireless router Netgear WNDR3700. Works well.
I would like to add second router (Dlink DIR825) but not as repeater or access point.
Can I connect both directly to to Cat 6 coming from OMT thru the Ethernet switch creating 2 separate networks?
With its own SSID's and use the second network to connect in the garage where my signal is week from the netgear. Is it possible?
Solved!
Go to Solution.

PGJK wrote:
Somebody on this forum a few weeks back said this could be done.
If it can it would be a violation of your TOS as for it to work you would havve to be acquiring two dhcp addresses from the VZ network.
Tech support told me that installation of router downstram of ActionTec router does not violate TOS. It merely remove Verizon support & ActionTec's router from the loop for Internet services, and of course its no longer Verizon's problem should any problems arise on the installed router or it's network (CAUTION: this is done at your own risk). In theory that could be hardwired or wireless. Those services which retain connection from the ONT to Verizon's ActionTec router will similarly retain viable Verizon responsibility and FIOs support.
I don't think he's connecting his router to a VZ router.
I think he's suggesting connecting a switch directly to the ONT and then 2 routers to the switch. That will give him 2 VZ DHCP addresses

Can CameraWindow on iPhone connect directly to a camera like N100 without a separate wifi network?

On the app store page for CameraWindow, it says "You can either connect the camera directly to the device (set the camera as a simplified access point)"
Does this mean if I'm in the field with no access to a wifi network, there would be a way to connect a camera directly to an iphone and transfer photos with CameraWindow?
I just want to make sure of this before I buy a camera.

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Gavin.

If I connect a time capsule via ethernet to an existing internet connection and use it to create a private wifi network for my wireless devices, will other users on the primary network (not the private wifi one) be able to access my files on my TCapsule?

Like it says in the title basically.
I want to use a time capsule to store my files and backups and access it from my phone and MacBook Air. However I do not want the others in my house who are currently connected to the same wifi/ethernet router to use my connection or my TC hard drives.
I had also been thinking about wirelessly extending the wifi network (a linksys N router) but I guess that will allow everyone to access my Time Capsule?
I hope you guys can help me.
Regards, Guido

......will other users on the primary network (not the private wifi one) be able to access my files on my TCapsule?
No, if you have not provided them with the Time Capsule device password.
Users will be able to "see" the Time Capsule icon under the SHARED heading in the Finder on their Macs, but they will not be able to access the drive or the files.
I had also been thinking about wirelessly extending the wifi network (a linksys N router) but I guess that will allow everyone to access my Time Capsule?
Same answer as above.

Can I have two separate wifi networks at home?

My set up is as follows:
I have an AEBS that has a network name of "X" and is connected to my cable modem.
I have a Netgear ethernet switch connected to my AEBS.
I have set up a separate "network" named "Y" that I've configured by "repurposing" an older AE generation 1 that I have hard wired to my ethernet switch.
When I attempt to connect to network "Y", all my network connections begin to fail until I unplug the AE from the the ethernet switch.
Is what I'm attempting something that just can't happen without some kind of "collision". or creation of a network nightmare?
TIA,
JIM

I have set up a separate "network" named "Y" that I've configured by "repurposing" an older AE generation 1 that I have hard wired to my ethernet switch.
That older generation AirPort must be configured to "create a wireless network" and operate in Bridge Mode. Is that the way that it is configured?
If yes, test by connecting the older AirPort directly to the AEBS and bypassing the Ethernet switch. If the older Airport has been setup to "create a wireless network" and it is in fact in Bridge Mode, then things should be working.
Once you have confirmed that this is working, add the Ethernet switch and test that way. Things should work. If they don't, then you need to start troubleshooting the switch.

Creating a public wifi network

The company currently has a DSL line using a linksys router to broadcast to a small area of the factory. I want to get rid of the DSL line and move it to the WAPs that are running our corporate network so it can be used thoughout the plant, but I don't want the networks to "see" each other.
What would be the best method for doing this? If you need more details, let me know.
Thank you

We have:
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Creating a Separate Wireless Network With no Ethernet

Hello-
I am attempting to set-up my Airport Express with my receiver and speakers in order to play music wirelessly. I have successfully done so when I choose "Join an Existing Wireless network", but I have noticed that this bogs down my wi-fi network speeds tremendously.
So, instead, I attempted setting-up the Airport Express as its own wireless network in order to bypass my DSL-based, wi-fi network completely. But, when doing so, I am being forced to connect to my DSL via ethernet.
Is there a way arpund this? Or, is there a way to stream music via the airport express in a way that won't interfere with my DSL wi-fi network (or affect its speed)?
Thanks in advance!

The AirPort Express Base Station (AX) does NOT require an Internet connection in order for it to provide a standalone wireless network for streaming.
The AX would not get a Public IP address, but it would have a Private IP address of 10.0.1.1 ... and it would be providing wireless clients connected to it with Private IP addresses in the 10.0.1.2 - 10.0.1.200 range.
I just verified that this works. Please double-check your settings to see if you may have missed something.
AirPort Utility > Select the AX > Manual Setup > AirPort > Wireless
Wireless Mode: Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name: <enter a desired Network Name or SSID>
Radio Mode: <leave the default or select a desired radio mode>
Channel: Automatic
Wireless Security: <select the desired wireless security type>
Internet > Internet Connection
Connect Using: Ethernet
Connection Sharing: Distribute a range of IP addresses
Internet > TCP/IP
Configure IPv4: Manually
IP Address: 10.0.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Router Address: 10.0.1.1
DNS Server(s): <leave blank>
Domain Name: <leave blank>
Internet > DHCP
DHCP Beginning Address: <leave default or change to a desired starting address>
DHCP Ending Address: <leave default or change to a desired ending address>
Music
Enable AirTunes (checked>
iTunes Speaker Name: <leave default or enter a desired speaker name>
Advanced > Logging & Statistics
Allow SNMP (unchecked)
Your AX will still report at least three errors: 1) Configuration of WAN, 2) SNMP over WAN, and 3) Double NAT. These can all be safely ignored to stop the AX's status light from flashing amber in this configuration.

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