NEO-FSR (MS-7030) Corrupt BIOS recovery issues.

I'm tempted to title this "What I did wrong when flashing the BIOS" but I think it's better just telling you my experience of using LiveUpdate3 to flash the BIOS from 1.x to 1.9.
MS-7030 Neo-FSR
The main mistake I made was trusting that the defaults for the applications were correct. This is most evident when I chose the Windows update process from LiveUpdate3. As I remember it when the BIOS update utility started an immediate button arose which said UPDATE. Not taking the time to review the screen to see what was not in focus and below the focus of the button I hit UPDATE. It erased my BIOS. And while it was erasing my BIOS I was thinking how odd it was that those boxes were not checked. They should have been. Oh well, the defaults should do. Right? Obviously not. I should have chosen all of the four available buttons on the left. When the boxes are not checked it CLEARS the BIOS and then says it UPDATES. It UPDATES nothing.
If the utility will erase the BIOS when none of the boxes are checked the button should say ERASE BIOS! not UPDATE. The button should indicate the summation of chosen action. If none of the boxes are checked then ERASE BIOS! If some are checked indicate what's being changed.
RULE: Don't click on the first button made available. Take a few minutes extra time to examining all the options on the screen that could impact your upgrade. Some options are hidden beyond the first obvious button.
The second mistake was not knowing which BIOS I had. Before this problem occurred I paid no attention to the BIOS. I always take the defaults and never overclock. So I didn't really know which BIOS I had. In trying to remedy the problem I confused the AMI process of holding down CONTROL and HOME with the AWARD process. The AWARD process doesn't use this.
The screens say AWARD. The sticker on the chip said PHOENIX. I thought they were different brands. But they are one in the same.
RULE: Always know which brand BIOS you have. There are now two AMI and PHOENIX/AWARD.
The third mistake I made was not knowing how to create a BIOS rescue disk. The LiveUpdate3 utility created the disk for me and I paid no attention to it. I should have examined the files to see what was being done for me.
RULE: Always know the recovery process for your brand of corrupt or erased BIOS.
My fourth mistake and related to the third was not knowing how to recover a corrupt or erased BIOS. The process is to insert a properly prepared  floppy, turn on the box and wait until it reads the floppy. I should get a BEEP. A splash screen comes up with a F1 or DEL option. If I do nothing a second text screen comes up with a basic BIOS configuration. I presume that I should be able to make a selection beyond by clicking on something on that screen. However being tired and confused I had the keyboard plugged into the mouse port when moving the box to a workable location. The keyboard won't work connected to the mouse port.
I think the mobo is trying to work. I just need to get my ducks in a row with a properly prepared floppy and the keyboard plugged into the correct port.
Questions:
Does the keyboard even need to be plugged in? After waiting 2 to 5 minutes the instructions say the BIOS will read from the floppy. This seems to be happening very inconsistently. Sometimes once in five or six tries.
Do I have to clear the CMOS on every try to recover? It seems the only way I can get the BIOS to read the floppy is to clear the CMOS first. That takes 15 to 30 minutes doesn't it?
When the splash screen comes up should I hit F1 or DEL? The splash screen is visible for about 15 seconds. That's not enough time to read an unfamiliar screen, make a decision and press the correct key. Experienced users might breeze though it. New users are who have arrived at this difficult point are usually bewildered, confused and angry. They need more time.
I'm still not sure I ever saw a proper and complete process of recovering a corrupt BIOS. I'll give it another shot tonight and report back later.

Ammond98,
RULE: Don't click on the first button made available. Take a few minutes extra time to examining all the options on the screen that could impact your upgrade. Some options are hidden beyond the first obvious button.
You may also wish to read these:
1- Award Phoenix amalgametion: http://www.award-bios.com/
2- BIOS when & how to update: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=76897.0
3- DOS BIOS Flashing: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=86257.0
4- WinFlash Method: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84865.msg606175#msg606175
5- BIOS Flashing sticky: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81017.0
Questions:
Does the keyboard even need to be plugged in? After waiting 2 to 5 minutes the instructions say the BIOS will read from the floppy. This seems to be happening very inconsistently. Sometimes once in five or six tries.
Do I have to clear the CMOS on every try to recover? It seems the only way I can get the BIOS to read the floppy is to clear the CMOS first. That takes 15 to 30 minutes doesn't it?
When the splash screen comes up should I hit F1 or DEL? The splash screen is visible for about 15 seconds. That's not enough time to read an unfamiliar screen, make a decision and press the correct key. Experienced users might breeze though it. New users are who have arrived at this difficult point are usually bewildered, confused and angry. They need more time.
Above suggested reading will answer these questions.
I'm still not sure I ever saw a proper and complete process of recovering a corrupt BIOS. I'll give it another shot tonight and report back later.
Above suggested reading will answer these questions.
A little reading, suggested above, will bring you right up to speed on BIOS flashing. Meanwhile try continuously hitting the Insert key while booting your system to see if it will go into "Safe Defaults" and allow you to get into BIOS to reset options. the  "DEL" key should be the one you need to press to get into BIOS Setup screen.
Also recommend that you do not use liveupdate 3 for flashing your BIOS
Good luck,

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    1) The PSU that you have is quite weak on the +12v Rail & could be the cause of your problems, most people on here recommend 20a on the +12v Rail.
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