New Clarity slider in 1.1

Wow!
I shoot boats on water, so far with a 10D (God! I'm chomping at the bit for a 1D Mk III!!!) and the Canon 100-400 L.
When I slid that puppy over to 100, the difference and improvement was incredible! It's like having had a headache for years, not knowing you had one, and then suddenly it's gone, or it's like "I'm Claritin clear!" Phew!
It may be my particular shooting conditions with all the moisture in the air, but I didn't realize how much glare I was getting surrounding bright objects against the dark water.
It's a relatively subtle filter like the Recovery slider, but the effect is great!

I wish there were _negative_ values for masking. (I.e. mask out edges instead of masking out non-edges.)
I find that I like sharpening textures, but ugly halos often appear way before my textures are sharpened.
So far, I've been quite happy with LR sharpening: it's much less halo-prone than Photoshop 7 sharpening (I have CS3 on order; I'm in Japan where things happen slowly). But I still occasionally find images that even LR causes halos on before I have enough sharpening over the rest of the image.

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    Hi,
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    - The new clarity slider is definitely better at preventing halos. Great.
    - The clarity slider provides a much greater 'rnage of effect' for those that want to push things. Great.
    The not so Good (for me at least)
    - Even small changes in the clarity slider seem to have quite a pronounced effect on the overall image brighness - increasing it overall in the image I've tried so far.
    With this behaviour I'm finding it hard to get the local contrast increase that clarity provides without having to then go back through the other sliders to bring the general image brightness levels back to where they were.
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    I would like to contribute an example where the difference seems especially prominent.
    The first photograph is clarity v1 set to 100, the second is with no adjustments and the third is with clarity v2 set to 30. I couldn't really match the settings because the effect is so different, but 30 seemed to produce the same overall enhancement.
    Also note that I had to set the exposure to -0.16 in the v2 image because clarity brightened the image.
    (Images are distributed for comparison purposes only)
    The best way to see the effect is of course to toggle between the downloaded images. Because the resizing in my browser seems exceptionally bad (I can't see a difference in the images at all).
    That way you should be able to see that clarity v1 effects pretty much the opposite regions (sky) that clarity v2 (shadows) affects, at least from a visual perceptive point of view.
    For such images, I could probably never reproduce the v1 effect with any v2 setting plus tonal adjustments.
    And I really like the silhoutte images where I increase the blacks a little bit, but not too much. Clarity v2 then punishes me by revealing more details in them...
    Of course I could provide countless examples where v1 doesn't stand a chance against v2.

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    Try updating to Bridge 2.1.1.9 in the hope that the updater fixes your bad install, but if that doesn't do it, you're going to have to re-install from scratch.
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    =====
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    hamish niven wrote: Subtle, but nice pointers Rob thanks
    You're welcome .
    hamish niven wrote: I will definitely play with the whites as it really makes the images sing a little.
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    hamish niven wrote: I'm a great fan of compressed blacks, so Ive not pushed the blacks above +10
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