Non replaceable battery

Well, I was all ready to bring my two phones back because I really did not like the fact that the battery was not replaceable, and I just couldn't bring myself to do so. I have bought many Apple products since my first Apple 2 computer, and just couldn't do it after repacking both up. I guess I'm going to just live with the fact I can't swap batteries. Extemely frustrating. I think this is the single biggest mistake for me anyway. The phone is just so beautiful though. I really hope they will update some of the features, and not just release a new version 2 phone. That would really upset me.

I so agree people are making way too much out of it.
Not to mention, the news is reporting it like your
phone will die after you've stuck it on the charger
300 times... which is NOT the case.
What will happen is after 300-400 FULL charges
(meaning the battery has completely died and you have
to charge it ALL the way) the battery will no longer
be able to hold more than 80% of it's life. It
doesn't just "die" all of a sudden... it very slowly
deteriorates to the point where it can't be charged
over 80% of it's capacity anymore, and THAT is what
occurs between 300-400 FULL charges.
Remember... that's FULL charges. If you are charging
every night and it's at 50% when you stick it on the
charger, that's 1/2 a charge. If it's at 20% that's
4/5 a charge.
When everyone falls into the grove on how to get the
best battery life, and when everyone stops being
obsessed with their phone because it's new, I think
everyone will find battery life is fine and the fact
that it has to be sent back to Apple for the battery
to be replaced will become a virtual NON issue... by
the time that would happen, years down the road,
you'd probably want an upgrade anyway. I'm getting
about 2 days between having to stick it on the
charger, and it's STILL not a full charge (anywhere
between 10 and 20% left at that point).
I've NEVER had to replace a cell phone battery.
Well said.
Bottom line is:
1. The battery replacement program is reasonable... $100 for a new battery with a loaner phone.
2. People are trending to buy new phones faster then their need for a new battery. Chances are all these complainers will shell out $600-1000 for the next gen iPhone the day it comes out
3. The battery life is the most superior of any cell phone I have ever seen, the mere fact that people are complaining within a week of its release of potential battery replacement one day is absurd.
4. If your battery dies in 1 year it is under warranty, within 2 years with $69 applecare, it too is under warranty - another reasonable option.

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"Providing an interface to the functionality of the Zen Sleek is its 2" monochrome, blue backlit LCD screen, whilst connectivity is provided by means of a 3.5 mm stereo earphone jack and USB 2.0. The latter also offers charging of the rechargeable, non-exchangeable Lithium Ion battery of the audio player."
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I have been using the evaluation version of Multisim 12 Educational Edition and found out that it had the Non-Ideal Battery component. But, the evaluation version lacks some of the PIC microcontrollers that I need for My simulation.
I am planning to get the Power Pro edition of Multisim 11 from my uni. but I heard that It doesn't have a non ideal battery, is there any work around to import that part into the power pro version of Multi-Sim. If not, Is there any alternative way to simulate a non-ideal battery?

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I have a mid 2007 white 13" Macbook and need to replace its battery (it shows "service battery" in the menu).
The original battery by Apple is hard to find (I am not in US).
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My iPod 5th generation displays a non-animated battery icon that won't go away. I've had it plugged in to my USB 2.0 port for over two hours. If I reset it, it briefly flashes a battery icon with exclamation point.
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Is this what is happening?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302420
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Just recently purchased a non-retina MacBook Pro, 13" with the upgraded i7 processor. So far, it's lots of fun, just one small question/concern...
Does the battery life really suck on this one, or is it just mine that possibly needs service?
The estimated remaining battery time keeps fluctuating, which is understandable, which attempting to constantly calculate; however, I score perhaps three hours of life using only web (Safari) and iTunes (transferring songs to/from iPhone, etc.) I haven't even installed my Adobe CS collection yet, and I'm afraid it'll constantly be glued to the wall adaptor, thus defeating the purpose of an expensive, beautiful laptop.
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There is an authorized Apple store not far from me, but I've only seen one technician there ever, and they'd most likely send it out for service or something anyways.
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I just can't believe how greedy Apple can be. This is a $600.00 cell phone, and after about a year I have to pack it up, and send it to Apple so they can charge me another $86.00 to replace my battery. I wouldn't mind to much if I could just drop it off at an Apple store, but I really hate having to pack it up wait in line at UPS, then weight days to get it back. Terribly inconvenient for a cell phone. Why not just bite the bullet, and make it user replaceable? to me this is pure corporate GREED!

as long as they use their "corporate greed" to produce more great products like the iPhone, I'm okay with that.
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i have a problem with my video ipod and have followed every single suggestion and tutorial on the apple web site.....
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I am not sure my battery is officially bad now.
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