North & south additional cooling

My mobo is a kt6v-lsr, im wondering when i increase my fsb do I need to take into account additional cooling, on both the northbridge and southbridge, i've heard that sata and sound abnormalities can be caused by southbridge high temps, also what about the mosfets?

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Thanks for your response, Japamac.
japamac wrote:
Hi-
Did you remove the old CPU fan?
I did and have it here sitting in front of me though for the life of me I can't remember what I did with the screws…no worries, I'll find them…
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The Radeon 9800 is a warm card, but it isn't so terrible that the MDD can't use one.
The most important step for keeping the DP MDD cool is to enable Nap mode using CHUD:
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Another important task is to replace the thermal compound on the Radeon 9800.
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Use Arctic Cooling MX-4.
Also use it on the processors to get additional cooling benefits.
Use of Nap mode and replacement of the thermal compound should be all that is required to avoid heat issues.
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The mention of a PCI cooler is a good one. Placed along side the Radeon, it can help to rid the case of hot air produced by the graphics card.
This one is good help with minimum noise:
http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-cyclo-blue-slotcooler.html
The Radeon 9800 has a minimalist fan and heatsink.
The aluminum heatsink doesn't disipate heat as fast as copper, and the fans tend to bake out and fail.
Replacement with a third party cooler is a good idea, but the design of the MDD makes that difficult.
This little Vantec cooler is a good option for the 9800 in a MDD which has the memory slots filled:
http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/95
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North bridge noise

about the NEO2-S
this North bridges fan makes a hell of a noise, is he really nesseary if i don't overclock at all ? because in all later models MSI didn't put on a north birdge active cooling...
my machine is working intesively but no overclocking is being made.
i saw some threads about it here, but is there any official or something close to it from MSI saying this usless ( but sure is beautiful ) fan can be removed without any risk ?
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remove the FAN only, don't remove the entire heatsink!
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I didn't connect it to the Internet - I use it only as a Time Machine.
Do you think I should buy additional cooling pad, and put it under the TC?
Do you turn off your TC during night, or while you leave your home/office?
Just asking because I've heard that there are some problems with cooling, and many machines died after one, and half year, because of heat.
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Put some feet under the TC.. a couple of pencils perhaps..
Then just keep your eye on the temperature.. or hand.. or even better a thermometer.. during heavy disk usage it will get pretty hot.. put your hand on it and feel how hot it gets.. it should not be more than very warm.. how to define that is difficult. but i guess it is more important, that it cools off again after the disk spins down.. and over time it does not get hotter. They have a tendency as they age to become less efficient and run hotter which is what I would track..
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