OMF importing Stereo Tracks are Seperate Mono?

Hey guys,
When you import OMFs into audition, each stereo track from FCP comes in on a seperate mono track. How do you make the 2 tracks that were originally stereo in FCP stereo in Audition so you dont have to make the same edit to the two seperate mono tracks every time? This is killing me.. Im reading about this mix pasting idea and making a new stereo file but I have to do this for every track that is imported into my multi track project?? I'm so confused. Anyone got any tips?
Thanks,
CRK Productions

CRK Productions wrote:
As for mixing though in Audition, I have to make the exact same edit to both tracks? Im in CS 5.5. So if I keyframe one of the tracks from the "stereo pair" I have to go up and add another keyframe and mimic my edits to the other track? There is no way around this?
Yes, this is a bit of a snag... and one that for a completely different reason I ran into myself recently. The best solution I've come across so far (because it's free, and does exactly what it says it will) is Sound Devices' WaveAgent. Essentially, if you can easily decode into mono wav files, it will pack them into whatever format you want, all as one file. I use it to encode four mono files into one four-channel R64 file, which means that when you import it into Audition, it does exactly what you want - all edits occur on all four channels. It would do just the same for stereo.
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Rohan Stevenson1 wrote:
aaron, read through this twice before and now about 3 times more. i still don't understand your problem.
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