Optimize rac failover time?
I have 2node RAC and the failover time is taking 4 minutes. Please advice some tips/documents/links that shows, how to optimize the rac failover time?
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Hi
Could you provide some more information of what it is you are trying to achieve. I assume you are talking about a the time it takes for clients to start connecting to the available instance on the second node, could you clarify this?
There is SQLnet parameters that can be set, you can also make shadow connections with the preconnect parameter in your fail_over section of your tnsnames.ora on the clients.
Have you set both of your hosts as preferred in the service configuration on the RAC cluster. The impact will be less in a failure as approximately half of your connections will be unaffeced when an instance fails.
Cheers
Peter
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> hi,
> I have got a problem with failover time.
> My environment,
> One cluster: two weblogic servers5.1 sp4s running on Sun Solaris. The
> cluster uses In-memory replication.
> Web Server is Apache running on Sun solaris. Apache bridge is setup
> with weblogic.conf reads:
>
> WeblogicCluster 10.2.2.20:7001,10.2.2.21:7001
> ConnectTimeoutSecs 10
> ConnectRetrySecs 5
> StatPath true
> HungServerRecoverSecs 30:100:120
>
> Everything is starting fine. Both weblogic server says Joins the
> cluster....and application is working fine. When one weblogic server is
> forced to shutdown, failover takes place fine.
> The problem occurs when the machine, that has first entry in
> weblogic.conf file( 10.2.2.20 )running weblogic server is unplugged from
> the network, failover takes after three minutes.
> Could someone help me how to reduce this time. Is there any property
> that has to be set in the weblogic.conf or in weblogic.properties file
> that need to be set.
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