Order settlement to G/L instead of Cost Centre.

Dear All,
My client has following scenario:
1. Cost centers are created as sections of the plant.
2. G/Ls are created with respect to activity (i.e normal consumption, project consumption, turnaround consumption).
In general maintenance order is settled to cost center that is copied from equipment master to order settlement rule. But, in above scenario cost should be settled to combination of "Cost Center + G/L" i.e. if mechanical section creates an order for any of the above said activities, the order should be settled to mechanical cost center and respective G/L account.
"One way around to this issue can be accomplished by settling the order directly to G/L defined in combination with section and activity."
Is this a correct practice if we settle maintenance order directly to G/L and do not use cost centers?
Your expert opinions and any other solution if you can suggest in this regard will be very helpful.
Thanks.

Hi,
Maintenance Orders are generally settled to cost centres as maintenance activities are nothing but Expenses. Please note that Cost Centers are meant to capture costs through GL accounts which are to be created as a Primary Cost elements in CO and the costs are passed to the cost center through account assignments.
The settlement will require an assignment to a CO object which may be a cost centre,order,WBS etc. If you are trying to simply assign the settlement receiver as "GL account" in Order, system will ask you for asignment to a CO obeject. Hence it is imperative to use cost centres.
For your scenario, you need to specify the range of cost elements to which settlement is allowed in the "Allocation structure" configuration. Tick on settlement by cost elements.Allocation structure is linked to your settlement profile.
When settlement process runs, your order cost will flow to the respective cost centre(from settlement rule) and the corresponding cost element will be affected. The details of debit and credit can be checked through the CO document which is generated.
Hope this throws some light on your query.
Regards,
S.Basu

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Hi Abraham,
It's not the button i mentioned. I was just trying to take u to the accounting document from the settlement screen. well just drill down the settlement screen and u'll get it. No big deal.
But more important is the concept. I'll share my understanding here. (cost by production order)
Any value that flow into controlling module should have a cost object. Here production order is the cost object.
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Std price comes frm material master as a result of std cost estimate
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Activity (Let's say machine hours - 3 Hrs x Rs.2) According to the routing it was 2 hrs but actual production took 3 hrs.
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Abraham, now visualise both sides of the production order. It will have debit of Rs.12 and credit of Rs.10.
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Reason: in a std costing system materials are valued at standard cost and
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Best Regards
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Can you tell me what is meant by "Internal Order from GL/Cost Element.."?
As per the functionality, when you settle an internal order, something is moved from the intrnal order and put to another. Hence the place from where it is moved is credited and the receiver is debited. The internal order has postings through the cost element you have posted. So the movement is from what the internal order has in its account.
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I am trying to settle a Internal order to a GL account. A cost centre is also mapped in automatic account assignment for this GL account.
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I want to see the real psoting on cost centre report and not statistical postings.
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Why are you posting to a GL? Where did the Internal Order gets its costs from? Something doesn't make sense here.
Modify your settlement rule by creating a settlement to this Cost Centre. As long as your Allocation Structure is defined well, you don't need to mention a Cost Element. Make sure the Settlement Profile, etc. are defined and assigned to the Order Type etc. That config I hope is in place.
Now run your settlement and it should work well.
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When reporting on a cost centre's commitments in Y_DEV_17000159, the commitments posted to the internal order (which is also attached to the cost centre) does not appear in the report.
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Additional Data Tab    -     Responsible CCt , Profit Center , Object Class
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Also would appreciate if the explanation can be given on the impact on above in settling the Orders.
(CAPEX Orders as well as OPEX Orders)
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Hi,
Additional Data Tab
Responsible Cost Center: - The responsible cost center is the responsible area for authorization check on internal orders.
This does not have to be the cost center to which the order settles its costs.
(ex The cost center "site office" is the responsible cost center).
Profit Center:- Operating results for profit centers can be analyzed using either the
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Location Tab
Cost Center:- which belongs to Equipment Master or Functional Location. This cost will be comes under Account Assignment Category
Settlement Reveiver:- Its the set of cost elements which receives the Actual cost from the work order & transfers to the cost center.
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I am trying to understand if I need to settle to a sales order (SDI) or directly to material (MAT) or to COPA (PSG).
If i look at my sales order, it has item category ZPSF, which product costs by sales order configuration shows a requirement class ZKE. ZkE has a valuation of M, which means separate valuation of reference to sales document/project.
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if ZKE valuation is blank, does that mean its not valuated? I have read on other sap help pages that means it is valuated. Please clarify.
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Is there any standard table available which carries the production order settlement cost?

Dear,
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You will find all relevant tables once RKACSHOW is executed for the corresponding object .
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