Org Structure movement!

Hi,
In PPOMA_CRM tcode , we accendently moved a Org Structure to another org structures sub Region.
Suppose if we take there are foru levels , like Level 1 , Level 2 , Level 3 and Level 4 ( Level = Org structure)
We have moved the Level 1 org structure to Level 4 org structures sub region, we are not able to Move it back to its position.
Thanks
Arun

hi,
You can go to org structure and try to delete the assignment so that it will resotre the settings assigned before.
or you can use this link to understand:
[http://help.sap.com/bp_crmv12007/CRM_DE/BBLibrary/Documentation/C01_BB_ConfigGuide_EN_DE.doc]
thanks
Hemant

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Bharat-
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>
Julius Bussche wrote:
> Option 1 sounds labour intensive. Option 2 requires better planning and testing.
>
> If your roles are built with the org structure in mind and the user's authority for anything other than basic common functions is from those position based roles, then you can assign the roles to the positions and let HR move the user's around as their jobs change in the org structure.
>
> What you should however be involved in is any changes to the org structure itself and the roles assigned to the positions and the roles themselves anyway.
>
> As you would be letting the system do a large part of the boring work for you, you should also monitor the usage of it from time to time.
>
> If you have a very large number of users and your org structure is stable and well defined (i.e. not a chaotic project structure...) then go for option 2 because it is more scalable.
>
> Cheers,
> Julius
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