OS X Tiger - Help!!!!!!

Hi
I've got an old G4 Powerbook which I don't use anymore and I'm planning to give it to my Dad to mess about on now he's retired. Thing is this:
I bought it from my bro 4 years ago without any discs, he bought it from someone without same. An old friend of mine installed a copy of (probably slightly dodgy) Tiger on the machine about 2 years ago. The Machine is running incredibly slowly and wants a wipe clean methinks. Question is, what can I do? I don't have any discs to restore either Tiger or previous OS. Any thoughts? Can you still pick up copies of either (cheaply)? I was planning to take the laptop to my Dad for Christmas so anyone's quick ideas on where I can get a disc or any other possible solutions for 'wiping' the machine I'd be very grateful.

The Discs are really needed, See Tom's, (Texas Mac Man), great info on where/how to find/get Tiger...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9755670&#9755670
Other than that, I think you should get Applejack...
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19596
After installing, Reboot holding down CMD+s, (+s), then when the DOS like prompt shows, type in...
applejack AUTO
Then let it do all 5 of it's things.
The 5 things it does are...
Correct any Disk problems.
Repair Permissions.
Clear out Cache Files.
Repair/check several plist files.
Dump the VM files for a fresh start.
At least if it doesn't fix it, it'll eliminate a few questions.

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How did you delete the user account? How many accounts did you have? The "Accounts" System Preference should not have let you delete the last administrator account. If you still have an administrator account, you can reset its p[password by booting from the Tiger install disk. After setting language, look in the menus for password resetting.

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Hi Dan,
Unfortunately you do not give us any information about your system. Please fill in your computer details in "My Settings" in the right sidebar of this page. We need to now as much as possible about your system (Exact Mac type, processor type, MHz, RAM, current system version, etc.) in order to help!
You will not lose any information or application unless you manually select to Erase&Install. You might want to follow this procedure: 10.4 Tiger Upgrade: Decision tree+Checklist

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We finally upgraded to Tiger 9from an earlier version of OS X. When we opened mail, we were prompted to import messages. But only the most recent messages appear in the new mailbox -- we've lost thousands of e-mails!
How can we recover the lost e-mails and import them into the mail program in Tiger?
Thanks!

The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Take a look at the following thread to better understand the problem:
Help! "You need to take this account online in order to download it."
More specifically, if this is a POP account, the following procedure should allow you to fix the Inbox problem. A similar procedure should allow you to fix other mailboxes that might also be affected:
1. Quit Mail if it’s running.
2. Make a backup copy of the ~/Library/Mail folder, just in case something goes wrong while trying to fix the problem. You can do this in the Finder by dragging the folder to the Desktop while holding the Option (Alt) key down, for example. This is where all your mail is stored.
3. Create a new folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox Old). It doesn’t need to have an .mbox extension.
4. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/.
5. Move the files mbox and Incoming_Mail out of INBOX.mbox, into the Inbox Old folder just created on the Desktop. These files contain all the messages that were in the mailbox before the upgrade to Tiger, and maybe even some messages that had been deleted. mbox is the most important. Incoming_Mail may or may not be present.
6. Move any strangely-named Messages-T0x... folders to the Desktop (not into the Inbox Old folder). These folders are to be deleted after fixing the problem. They are temporary folders created during an import or an indexing process, and Mail should have deleted them when done. Their presence is a clear indication that something didn’t work as expected. If you’ve been using Mail after the conversion and have already tried to fix the problem by rebuilding the mailbox or something like that, they might contain messages that are neither in Messages proper nor in the mbox file, so keep them around until the problem is fixed.
7. Move everything else within INBOX.mbox, except the Messages folder, to the Trash.
The result of the above should be that INBOX.mbox contains the proper Messages folder only, and the Inbox Old folder on the Desktop contains the mbox and Incoming_Mail (if it exists) files only. Now, proceed as follows:
8. Open Mail.
9. The account’s Inbox should properly display in Mail as many messages as *.emlx files are in ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/Messages/. If that’s not the case, select the mailbox in Mail and do Mailbox > Rebuild.
10. In Mail, do File > Import Mailboxes, choose Other as the data format, and follow the instructions to import the Inbox Old folder that’s on the Desktop.
As a result of doing the above, some messages may be duplicated now. Andreas Amann’s Mail Scripts has a Remove Duplicates script that you may find useful.
Do with the imported mail whatever you wish. You may move the messages anywhere you want and get rid of the imported mailboxes afterwards.
If all is well and you don’t miss anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.
Take a look at the following article (also referenced in the thread I mentioned at the beginning of this post) to learn what you might have done before upgrading to minimize the risk of this happening, and what you may do after fixing the problem to avoid similar issues from happening in the future. DON’T do now what the article suggests, though, as that would make things worse in the current situation:
Overstuffed mailbox is unexpectedly empty
Ask for any clarifications or if you need further assistance.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library folder within the user’s home folder.

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Look at this link. Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Installing Software Support Page
http://www.apple.com/support/tiger/install/
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117 If an update is required, the update must be installed (using OS 9) BEFORE you install OS X.
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I have a quick question that hopefully has a quick solution. I am trying to upgrade an older G4 tower with 10.2 on it to Tiger. The problem, I have Tiger and the rest of my applications on an external hard drive and is a bootable copy. I trie4d hooking it up to the tower and wanted to use migration assistant to bring over the information from the external, however, there is no migration assistant! How did people running 10.2 back in the day do it? Specifically, what is the easiest way to bring a complete bootable system over from on a external firewire harddrive and load it onto the tower, that is currently running an older OS.
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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If you can boot from external drive, a no cost way of achieving your goal would be to boot from the Tiger drive and then use Disc Utility to do a Restore. This will make an exact copy of your external drive onto the internal. Super Duper does basically the same thing, and is a terrific program because it also allows you to do incremental backups - which Restore does not. But if you don't want to spend the money, I have never had restore fail to give me a perfect copy. If you do boot from the Tiger drive, repair permissions and run a utility like Mac Janitor or Onyx before you make your copy. Restore isn't the fastest program in the world, but is very reliable.

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Hi hujaboy;
There was a program for those who bought their Macs during the month of Leopard's release to get it at a reduced price but that has long since expired. Now if you want Leopard you will have to purchase it.
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Please can someone help.
My macbook has died!
I was restarting the computer because there was an update and the mac told me too. And then in the middle of restarting it froze. I tried everything (held down the start key, tried it with the option button held down too, reset the battery - the works) but all I get is a black screen. I went searching for my system disc to do the repair thing but I can't find it anywhere. What should I do?? I tried calling apple care but they said they don't sell tiger anymore.
Does anyone know where I could get one?? I bought leapord but I don't want to use it cos' I'm scared it will wipe all my files and give me no option to run a repair/ first aid on it.
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Hi Louisa, and Welcome to the Discussions!
Apple may supply an original System disc for a small fee, you'll need the Serial# of your Book.
Try this first...
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I have followed the heat & fan issues for sometime. However, I finally decided it was time to move from 10.3.9 to 10.4.3.
I upgraded yesterday, first using the upgrade option to move from 10.3.9 to 10.4.0 and then installed the 10.4.3 combo upgrade. I've repaired permissions and rebuilt the disk directory using Disk Warrior. There were no directory errors and only a couple of trivial permissions changes.
However, my Powerbook's fans are running constantly and my CPU heat is always pegged at about 135 degrees F, which is as hot as it ever gets. This happens within about 40 minutes of starting the Powerbook up cold and it stays that way for as long as I'm using it, regardless if there are any apps being used.
Activity Monitor indicates that the launchd process is using from 18% to 20% of my CPU, even with nothing else running. I've disabled all Spotlight indexing and I've turned Dashboard off. It appears that it's the lanchd process that is accounting for the extra heat and fan use. It simply won't drop below the 18% to 20% of CPU. There is no other process that is using any significant amount of my CPU when nothing else is running.
My processor is set at Automatic, the same as when I was using 10.3.9.
I was using Silk, Application Switching Menu (ASM) and Macaroni, but I've uninstalled them. No change.
I've reset the Power Manager (including deleting the com.Apple.PowerManagement.xml file) and reset NVRAM. Again, no change.
Finally, when I boot back into 10.3.9 (on my backup hard drive), the fan activity and heat return to what I consider normal--much lower than with 10.4.3. Specifically, the heat and fan activity is directly related to CPU use. If I'm not doing anything, the heat drops and all the fans go off.
There is one other curious effect of 10.4.3 vs. 10.3.9. When I'm running Firefox (latest version), all Firefox user-interface stuff (menu selections, opening many tabs in succession, etc.) are MUCH more sluggish than when using 10.3.9. Frankly, I was expecting the opposite.
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I'm the originator of this thread and I appear to have an answer.
I tried an "Archive and Install" of Tiger, on top of my existing 10.4.3 install that was giving me the trouble I described above. I had the time today and figured "what the heck[ll]".
I then installed each additional piece (10.4.3 combo update, airport updates, quicktime updates, java updates, etc), stopping after each one to check CPU temperatures and CPU use in Activity Monitor.
I'm now back to a full 10.4.3 install, with all current recommended Apple software and I don't have the heat/CPU use problems I previously had. There is no significant use of the CPU by the launchd process.
I also re-enabled Spotlight indexing and that doesn't cause a problem either.
Also, my entire system is *MUCH* quicker and responsive. I wish I knew what piece in my previous system install was causing the problem, but hopefully my experience can help someone else. When in doubt, do an "Achive and Install" rather than an update to the previous system installation.
By the way, with heavy Spotlight indexing going on and mild web browsing, my CPU temp is just 112 to 115 degrees F. Previously, with no Spotlight indexing and with NO apps running, my CPU temp was maxed at 135 degrees with fans on full. And if you're reading this thread, you know what max fans sound like on a 12" PB.

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She uses it mainly for Photoshop.
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As for replacing the original parts, I don't know if that would be required by Apple, but it would surely give them an "out" to lay the blame somewhere else. It shouldn't be difficult to swap them back out yourself, especially the RAM.

Update to Tiger HELP!!

Hey guys,
A bit of a problem I am in, I am trying to upgrade an old G4 tower (30 gig HD, 466 MHz PowerPC G4 with 10.2 currently installed on it) to Tiger OS. The tower does not have a DVD drive, just CD, so the copy I have does not obviously work. Second, I went into the towers utilites to try and find Migration Assistant, as I could do it this way and hook it up to an external bootable hard drive I have with Tiger, however, there is no MIgration Assistant!!!If 10.2 did not have migration assistant, how did they transfer stuff from old to new computer abck then??
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1. You can contact Apple for a CD copy of the disk. (but it will cost you more money). 2. Try the option key on boot, and boot to the Tiger External. Then you will have migration assistant in Tiger, and will be able to pull your old data over. 3. Here is my suggestion... IF AND WHEN you get all your data over to Tiger.. use SuperDuper or Carbon Copy and completely clone the external and internal drives. Then Tiger will be on both, but warning, if you dont get everything over, it wont be there when you go back to look for it.

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My cpu load according to my x-rescource graph has gone out the roof and there is only 1 program running, the heat is is causing fan to come on. I have run disk permission with cocktail and on the disk utility. If this continues I will have to revert back to the panther, help, I fear this could damage my machine as it is running way too hot.

I don't know what an "x-resource graph" is, but if you open Activity Monitor in your /Applications/Utilities folder, and look at the CPU usage, you will be able to see exactly which process(es) is (are) demanding these resources.
Please post back with what you find.
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i first bought a official copy of os 9.0 then tiger said you need 9.1 so i bought 9.1 and when i hold c at startup no go...so i try booting up in system preferences no go. then when i double click install it says it already had 9.1 installed and i should have 9.2???? but there is nothing in the classic folder.
also i tried dragging and dropping the sytem folder and utilities from the os9.1 cd into the classic folder and then the computer startsup with a question mark over folder and refuses to boot up. so i had to reinstall tiger. help i want classic.
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Hi Benjamin,
first of all: WELCOME TO THE DISCUSSIONS!
There is no need to buy OS 9 retail disks - and depending on what generation PowerBook you have you won't even be able to use them (Macintosh: Some Computers Only Start Up in Mac OS X).
You can reinstall OS 9 (Classic) from the software install&restore disks that originally shipped with your computer: Click on "Support" on top of this page, then type "reinstall classic" into the search field. From the results select the version of your original disks for detailed instructions how to resinstall OS 9.
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This happens not infrequently. When it does I routinely apply Dr.Smoke's remedy of trashing 3 library files and rebooting and Mac Help works again.
However this time it displayed the alpha index but declined to open the page corresponding to the letter I chose.
I wonder if there is a further treatment that could wake up this help file, or a test to pinpoint the cause of the dysfunction?

1. You wrote: "tep 3 of Solution 3 of "Help Viewer links do not work" refers to Incompatible Startup or Login Items, for which the recommanded solution is to update to Mac OS X 10.4.6 or later and then reset Help Viewer"No: that's incorrect. Step 2 refers to the update. Step 3 refers to "Rule out incompatible Startup or Login Items" and refers you to my "Troubleshooting Startup and Login Items" FAQ.
Seems you've not performed Step 2, either, which will probably solve the problem permanently.
2. You wrote: "Quote:To display the toolbar for Help Viewer, click the elliptical button at the far right in the title bar of the Help Viewer window.Unquote
There is no elliptical button at the far right of the title bar. only the Ask a Question field (typing a word in it sets the spinning wheel turning endlessly)
I cannot control click the HelpViewer toolbar to customize it."Once again, you are misreading the FAQ. The item you quote from above is from the section entitled "Help Viewer does not display a search field under Mac OS X 10.3 or earlier" in the FAQ. That's a new section and follows the section on "Help Viewer links do not work". You should be able to tell it's a new section as the title is larger, i.e. its a new heading. There are links to the individual sections at the start of the FAQ, but the sections run linearly throughout the FAQ.
That new section obviously does not apply to Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) since it states "Mac OS X 10.3 and Earlier." Under Tiger, Help Viewer's toolbar cannot be customized. That feature was only available in Panther (10.3) and earlier. Likewise, it does not apply to your current problem, but a different problem.
My FAQ covers Help Viewer for Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar), Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther), and Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger). The titles of sections or the details within a section can be version-specific and are noted accordingly.
3. You wrote: "Should I rebuild the OSX desktop? (I have a utility by that name). or go ahead an update to OS 10.4.7?
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1047comboppc.html says it is 145Mb!!! "Neither.
You should update to Mac OS X 10.7 using Software Update, which will download just the changes you need for the update. You do not need to download the Combo Update to perform an update.
Some people recommend always downloading and installing the Combo Update. I do not: I think that approach is a waste of time.
4. You wrote: "I am a little reluctant to update because it often creates more problems than it cures."That has not been my experience. While there are often many posts here on the Discussions about "problems caused by an update" they are usually the result of self-inflicted wounds:
• People install updates on already-corrupted systems, making a bad problem worse.
• They are running third-party software, often hacks and interface modifications relying on undocumented features of the OS, that are rendered incompatible with the update.
Granted, some updates have had bugs, but I've personally found that most post-update problems are the the result of user errors or a lack of maintenance, rather than problems with the update.
If your system is properly maintained and not "hacked-up" then you should not have any problems with Software Updates.
Before installing software updates, you may wish to consider the advice in my "Installing Software Updates" FAQ. Taking the steps therein before installing an update often helps avert problems and gives you a fallback position in case trouble arises.
Good luck!
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X
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I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.

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