Outlining Vs Expanding Type

What is the difference between the two outlining and expanding type operations in Illustrator? Does this have to do with retaining the font metrics or hinting?

I'm not sure what you mean exactly. The 'Create Outlines' operation from the menu does exactly what Josh says -- it converts the text into it's base form: vectors. You essentially lose all information that would normally have as text (type, size, style, etc.) and get raw vectors in return.
That's what you typically get when you 'expand' specialized artwork, so I'm not sure what you mean when you ask for the difference between 'expanding' and 'outlining'. Can you be more specific? Are we talking about a particular SDK call or enum here?

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