Output determination in Create/Change.

HI Gurus,
          How can I diifrentiate whether Sales order is created or changed in output determination, I'm sending data to XI through a custom IDOC. I want to send different data for creation of order and Change of Order how can I handle this.
          Where should I andle this in a driver program.
          Imeediate soultion awaited.Thanks.
Kind Regards,
Suresh

Hello Suresh,
1. You can track it using sy-tcode and check whether it is VA01 or VA02.
2. Other way is you can check in the Idoc Message type and your Partner profile configuration.Under the Message control, you can find a check box, which would tell you whether you should trigger your idoc on create or change. If it is unchecked, it would send on create and if checked, it will send during change mode.
Thanks!
Suresh Ganti

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I have created a condition table with the combination created by (sales document created by) and sales organisation, added it to my access sequence and populated it with data.
When i look at the 'analysis output' in the sales order i notice that the field 'ernam' is not filled in by SAP.
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I want have my order output determined by sales order type
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