Over 2 Gbs of RAM in a G4 PowerBook?

Hi savvy bunch,
Does anybody know if it's possible to upgrade the RAM of a 1.67Ghz 17" G4 PowerBook beyond the 2 GB ceiling? I know that, for example, 12" PBs can be upgraded beyond the official 640MB top established by Apple, that my eMac is happily using 1.5GB, and that the early Intel Macs could address 3Gbs.
Thanks.

Hi, J. The comprehensive MacTracker specification database, which distinguishes between "Maximum Ram (Apple)" and "Maximum RAM (Actual)" for many models including a number of 12" Powerbooks and most MacBooks and MacBook Pros, shows no such distinction for any of the 15" or 17" models. Apparently the 2GB limit is real.

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    Jan 7 01:19:21 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-30-051931: 360.53 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:19:25 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-30-041930: 360.54 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:19:28 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-30-031927: 360.54 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:19:31 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-30-021933: 360.54 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:19:33 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-31-011933: 360.54 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:22:07 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-11-09-061842: 362.39 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:24:58 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-11-16-002933: 363.80 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:30:13 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-11-30-005141: 364.73 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:31:27 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityFoundation.framework/Resources/dotmacfx.app/ Contents/MacOS/dotmacfx[509]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 01:31:57: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
    Jan 7 01:33:21 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-02-005154: 365.43 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:36:09 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-09-005151: 365.53 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:39:00 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-10-005206: 365.78 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:41:03 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-12-152048: 365.86 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:43:26 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-13-003945: 365.95 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:44:10 MacBookPro SyncServer[524]: SyncServer: Truth vacuumed. Next vacuum date 2009-01-21 01:44:08 -0800
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    Jan 7 01:44:42 MacBookPro /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/dotmacsyncclient[522]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 01:46:12 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/PubSub.framework/Versions/A/Resources/PubSubAgent.ap p/Contents/MacOS/PubSubAgent[527]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 01:46:38 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-14-004012: 366.25 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:46:46 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityFoundation.framework/Resources/dotmacfx.app/ Contents/MacOS/dotmacfx[531]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 01:47:16: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
    Jan 7 01:47:35 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/PubSub.framework/Versions/A/Resources/PubSubAgent.ap p/Contents/MacOS/PubSubAgent[527]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 01:50:12 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-15-002629: 368.09 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:52:39 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-16-002306: 368.44 GB now available
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    Jan 7 01:55:58 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: Permission denied (NOAUTH): autotunnel.udp.MacBookPro.savladai.members.mac.com.
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    Jan 7 01:55:59 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: Permission denied (NOAUTH): Helen's\032MacBook\032Pro.device-info.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 01:55:59 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: hndlRecordUpdateReply: Registration of record Helen's\032MacBook\032Pro.device-info.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com. type 16 failed with error -65537
    Jan 7 01:56:06 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-17-002303: 368.83 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:56:48 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: Permission denied (NOAUTH): Helen's\032MacBook\032Pro.afpovertcp.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 01:56:48 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: Error -65537 for registration of service Helen's\032MacBook\032Pro.afpovertcp.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com.
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    Jan 7 01:58:07 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: Permission denied (NOAUTH): MacBookPro.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 01:58:07 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: hndlRecordUpdateReply: Registration of record MacBookPro.savladai.members.mac.com. type 28 failed with error -65537
    Jan 7 01:58:19 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-18-002312: 368.18 GB now available
    Jan 7 01:58:56 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: Permission denied (NOAUTH): _kerberos.MacBookPro.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 01:58:56 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: hndlRecordUpdateReply: Registration of record _kerberos.MacBookPro.savladai.members.mac.com. type 16 failed with error -65537
    Jan 7 01:59:11 MacBookPro SyncServer[541]: SyncServer: Truth vacuumed. Next vacuum date 2009-01-21 01:59:09 -0800
    Jan 7 01:59:17 MacBookPro /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/dotmacsyncclient[540]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
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    Jan 7 02:00:16 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: sendChallengeResponse: 3 failed attempts for LLQ dm-notification.udp.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 02:01:17 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/PubSub.framework/Versions/A/Resources/PubSubAgent.ap p/Contents/MacOS/PubSubAgent[548]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 02:01:18 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-19-002312: 373.02 GB now available
    Jan 7 02:01:45 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityFoundation.framework/Resources/dotmacfx.app/ Contents/MacOS/dotmacfx[550]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 02:02:15: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
    Jan 7 02:02:24 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-20-002320: 373.15 GB now available
    Jan 7 02:02:52 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-21-002305: 373.19 GB now available
    Jan 7 02:03:37 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-22-003319: 373.61 GB now available
    Jan 7 02:04:12 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-23-003313: 374.12 GB now available
    Jan 7 02:14:09 MacBookPro SyncServer[561]: SyncServer: Truth vacuumed. Next vacuum date 2009-01-21 02:14:08 -0800
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    Jan 7 02:15:15 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: sendChallengeResponse: 3 failed attempts for LLQ adisk.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 02:16:00 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/PubSub.framework/Versions/A/Resources/PubSubAgent.ap p/Contents/MacOS/PubSubAgent[567]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 02:16:17 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityFoundation.framework/Resources/dotmacfx.app/ Contents/MacOS/dotmacfx[571]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
    Jan 7 02:16:30: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
    Jan 7 02:16:30 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: sendChallengeResponse: 3 failed attempts for LLQ rfb.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 02:18:15 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: sendChallengeResponse: 3 failed attempts for LLQ afpovertcp.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com.
    Jan 7 02:18:40 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-24-003709: 441.08 GB now available
    Jan 7 02:21:28 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: sendChallengeResponse: 3 failed attempts for LLQ dm-notification.udp.savladai.members.mac.com.
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    Jan 7 02:26:06 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: hndlRecordUpdateReply: Registration of record Helen's\032MacBook\032Pro.device-info.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com. type 16 failed with error -65537
    Jan 7 02:26:57 MacBookPro mDNSResponder[16]: Permission denied (NOAUTH): Helen's\032MacBook\032Pro.afpovertcp.tcp.savladai.members.mac.com.
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    Jan 7 02:30:37 MacBookPro /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd[398]: Deleted backup /Volumes/Terabyte/Backups.backupdb/Helen's MacBook Pro/2008-12-25-050131: 509.14 GB now available
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    Jan 7 02:45:43 MacBookPro /System/Library/Frameworks/PubSub.framework/Versions/A/Resources/PubSubAgent.ap p/Contents/MacOS/PubSubAgent[626]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
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