P4N Diamond w/ Pentium Extreme Edition 840

I've got a P4N Diamond running a Pentium Extreme Edition 840. The BIOS shows that the CPU is a 3.2ghz but it's only running it at 2.8ghz. When I boot into Windows it shows it as a Pentium D 3.2ghz running at 2.812ghz. Are there any thoughts? I've tried searching but I've found nothing.
Jeremiah

I will try that when it home this afternoon. Also what are the knowns issues with using the above combo of CPU and P4N Diamond? I found on the MSI site that it wasn't yet compatible:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=663&NAME=MS-7160&kind=1
It says
CPU=Pentium Extreme Edition 840 (3.2GHz)
FSB=800
Ratio=16
Result=NONE
Now I know that testing was done via BIOS 1.4 PCB 1.0. I know that there's a beta BIOS version 1.5 (1.52) I haven't found out specifically online where it outlines that it's added compatibility for that CPU or listed the known issues with it.
Jeremiah

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hi all.
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