P7N Diamond Chipset Watercooling

I wanted to know if anyone has found a complete set of chipset waterblocks for the P7N Diamond. I've seen people use a Swiftech GPU block on the NB but there doesn't appear to be anything for the SB, MOSFETS or the PCI-E seperate... I wouldn't mind doing just the NB and SB with passive cooling on the MOSFETS and a fan over the PCI-E chip between the video cards...
I'll have my system set-up on air before the end of the week and on water (hopefully) by the 15th. I'm using the D-Tek Fuzion CPU block, Liang D5 Vario pump and Swiftech Quiet Power 120.3 rad - hopefully I get a Q6600 that holds at 3.6Ghz... If I ever do find chipset blocks, I want to see if I can push it beyond 3.6Ghz into Maximus Formula terrain

Hi all,
Is it really worthwhile to add aftermarket cooling to the p7n diamond chipset? Has anyone tried to keep the heatpipe yet find a way to add a waterblock under it for the NB (requiring some fancy bending/modding I'm guessing)? It is pretty and I'm using an acrylic case... I'm running a q9450, and am just looking for a stable fsb @ 400MHz (unless my ram can do better) - but I need it to be a reliable overclock with no worries about a hot NB. Do the other 780i chipset coolers fit this board or just the koolance one? To cool the CPU using an apogee block, NB block, and full coverage 8800gt block with 1/2" fittings, 7/16" tubing, and 1/2" modded top mcp350: would I need a dual 12cm Swiftech rad or triple? (The 8800gt is needed for an auxiliary touchscreen display/optional output since Quad SLI only has one output)
Thanks for any suggestions!

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P7N diamond Chipset drivers

Hi guys
Im using vista 64 sp1 what chipset drivers are more stable for this board and 8800gtx sli the 9.64 of nvidias site or the ones that come with the board?

malik22,
If you don't have any current problems, don't mess with it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

HELP! - Voltages for Overclocking Q9450 on the MSI P7N Diamond (780i chipset)

Hey. I fully understand the settings as far as frequencies go, but am a total voltage newb. No matter what I do I cant seem to get a stable vista load up with my voltage settings.
Please help me by providing suggested voltage settings for my hardware.
CPU - Intel Core2Quad Q9450
RAM - 6 gigs of DDR2-800 rated at 2.1V
VIDEO - Dual Nvidia Geforce 8800GT's in SLI
MOBO - MSI P7N Diamond, based off the Nvidia Nforce 780i SLI chipset
My cooling is sufficient, and I have the BIOS version 1.2
I also turned off all of the overclocking not friendly functions, example: spread spectrum, and DOT, ETC....
I am trying to run my CPU at 3.2 GHZ (400 mhz before multiplier)
my settings I want are (as shown in the P7N bios)
System Clock Mode - Manual
FSB clock - 1600
DRAM clock - 800
Please help me by providing the proper voltages for my setup
Everything I need is marked by "???"
CPU Voltage - ???
DRAM Voltage - (already have, its 2.1)
NB voltage - ???
SB voltage - ???
NB Memory reference voltage - ???
DIMM memory reference voltage - ???
Memory terminator voltage - ???
CPU GTL reference voltage - ???
NB GTL reference voltage - ???
FSB terminator voltage - ???
SB sleep mode voltage - ???
PCI Expander PLL voltage - ???
For the sake of you not typing too much, if you specify voltages, any that you do not specify will be assumed to be left at [AUTO]
PLEASE help me by providing some voltages for me, as I have absolutely no clue what to put for them. If you have any questions about my hardware feel free to ask, and any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED

Quote from: nihilkrist on 08-October-08, 08:03:22
adjusting gtl ref. voltages isn't very difficult, but it is probably best to learn the basics first.
So, basically, increase the fsb a little. So, for example, from 1333 to 1400. See if it's stable, if it isn't try bumping up vcore one notch and try again. If not try Northbridge. Then later move on to stuff like the fsb term.
Test stability using prime95, there is a 64-bit multi-core aware version floating around somewhere. Try the ftp server linked to in the "hot use prime95" sticky on here.
Tbh with your OC you shouldn't need to touch any other voltages, or really use the gtl ref settings. What exactly is "sufficient" cooling though? Stock?
*EDIT: on a side note, just so you don't think I'm deliberately being awkward not telling you specific voltages, they wouldn't do you any good. Every cpu/mobo can handle different freq. at different voltages. Also, use cpu-z to check on your actual voltage and make sure you don't raise it beyond 1.3625 (I think that's right, it's 1.36something anyway)
Thanks for the tips. The reason I wanted to jump straight to FSB 1600 is because the MSI p7n is really picky and only likes 1:1 ratios.
My "sufficient cooling" is an aftermarket heatsink, high performance thermal paste, and MASSIVE airflow through my case. If you want specifics, its the Scythe Zipzang
Quote from: AaronYuri on 08-October-08, 09:05:16
CPU Voltage - No one can tell you this.
NB voltage - Depends on what frequency you want
SB voltage - What's your HDD setup?
NB Memory reference voltage - Auto
DIMM memory reference voltage - Auto
Memory terminator voltage - Auto
CPU GTL reference voltage - Depends on speed and other voltages
NB GTL reference voltage - Same as above
FSB terminator voltage - Depends on CPU voltage and CPU/FSB clock speed
SB sleep mode voltage - Auto
PCI Expander PLL voltage - Auto
My recommendation is do some reading. Guessing leads to dead hardware.
6GBs smells like mixing modules... Or do you have 3 modules?
First of all, I already stated the frequencies that I wanted in the top post, and fairly clearly at that.
CPU shouldnt be too hard to figure out, as there are very few to choose from. I'll try to get back to you on that one
I have 5, 7200rpm SATA 3.0 drives. It sometimes runs with only 4, as one is a hot swap.
My ram IS mixed, unfortunately. I'm using 2x 1gig sticks, and 2x 2gig sticks. However, both sets have heatsinks, and are rated at 800mhz, 4-4-4-12, 2t, timings. (2.1v)
I AM running them in dual channel.
If this helps you suggest voltages please do, If not, then I will just have to start trying using nihilkrist's suggestions.

P7N Diamond (Ms-7510) - Possible chipset heat problem

Hi,
Have a P7N Diamond (Ms-7510) with possible chipset heat problem.
After looking around I have seen the platic plugs that keep the chipset heatpike in-place are broken.
Would like to replace them but dont know what size and type to get.
Does anyone know?
Or perhaps there is some other issue with it?
Have seen a few people who clams there is alot of issues with this m/b...
I am a bit stubborn and want to get some life in to this thing! ;-)
FYI I have posted a few others post about this m/b before here...
Thx
//Christoffer

Try checking at hobby shop or hardware store and get some nylon screws of size needed instead. Just measure the hole size or take one of the broken pins with you so you can get the right size. Length shouldn't be much of a problem because if you have get something longer than needed they are relatively easy to cut.
P7N was one of the not so good MBs back then. P45 Platinum was one of the very best though and if you could get your hands on one of them for a good price you would be very happy with it. I know several people with new rigs but their mainstay backups are P45 Plats.

P7N Diamond: Q6600 to 4.05ghz!! But stability at 3.6ghz?

Hi all,
I believe I've obtained the first successful non-extreme Kentsfield Quad bench above 4.0ghz on the P7N Diamond. It can be done.
The processor is a watercooled Q6600 G0 Batch L737B277 with a VID of 1.2375. The chipset is using the standard circupipe cooling, but I did buy an Antec Spot Cool to blow air over the NB. It seems to be doing a reasonable job.
Here are my OC settings and voltages:
Beta BIOS 1.1B4
Proc: 4.05ghz (450 x 9)
FSB: 1800 (450 x 4)
RAM: 900 (450 x 2)
RAM Timings: 5-5-5-15-2T (sub-timings on auto)
vCore: Max set in BIOS (haven't benched lower, but it may be possible.)
vDimm: 2.1
NB: 1.55
SB: 1.65
Gtl REF: 65
FSB Term: 35
all other voltages on auto.
Unfortunately, I'm still having a bit of trouble stabilizing at 3.6ghz. I've cornered it down to the same thing every time. The computer will eventually freeze (not blue screen or reboot, but freeze) at around 10 minutes of Prime 95 or between 2 and 5 minutes of OCCT (RAM stress.)
My current settings for 3.6ghz stable are as follows:
Beta BIOS 1.1B4
Proc: 3.6ghz (400 x 9)
FSB: 1600 (400 x 4)
RAM: 800 (400 x 2)
RAM Timings: 5-4-4-13-2T (default EPP timings)
vCore: 1.4375 (+2.000v set in BIOS)
vDimm: 2.1
NB: 1.4
SB: 1.55
Gtl REF: 65
FSB Term: 35
My guess is that the issue lies with the NB or SB, with RAM being the third option. I don't think it's the processor, based upon VID, batch, and the type of errors I'm getting (freezes, nothing else.)
I'm learning more about how NB and SB voltages effect the system, as well as how all of the reference, gtl, and terminator voltages interact (MSI's odd BIOS settings make this all the more difficult.) However, I'm still guessing at places, and without the ability to pinpoint a single voltage that's causing the freezing, it's becoming a bit tiresome. I've tried upping NB to 1.45 and SB 1.6 but can't seem to prevent the freezing. Perhaps its a combination of the two, or perhaps my FSB Terminator voltage is off. If anyone has any ideas on what could be causing this freezing, that would be great going forward.
Seeing that I can bench at 4.05ghz, I should be able to find stability at 3.6ghz. It's just a matter of time, and as always, further explanation of MSI's unique voltage settings always helps.
Thanks everyone!

Here's a brief overview of my 3.6 settings. Cpu is a G0 batch L737A702 with a VID of 1.2875, bios A7510NMS.116, C1E and EIST disabled.
The first screen in cell menu just shows mode to manual, fsb to 1600, and multi at 9. The pci-e freq=107 is just to give me a little help for oc my vid cards so disregard that setting.
Next you see my voltages. One might assume that cpu VID 1.2875v+.225v increase in bios will mean a vcore of 1.5125 but this isn't the case at all as you will see from H/W Monitor in a moment.
The H/W Monitor screen is showing me vcore 1.464v and while I'm sure part of this is vdrop, it also leads me to believe that bios may not be setting the initial voltage correctly or that there is some amount of vdroop before the OS is even loaded. Of course that's purely speculation without actual digital multi-meter measurements.
I can show prime 25.6 stability if need be, I have run it 6hr with similar settings on bios 114 but honestly I'm not really big on hours of stress testing. It cuts into my WCG time too much and I have taken kind of a personal interest in that since my cancer diagnosis 7 weeks ago. 4 cores crunching 24/7 without error and the occasional game of Witcher or Silent Hunter 4 is my idea of stable. You can see the CPU-Z Core Voltage 1.424v 100% load so vdroop is around .04v. You might also note ram timings are tight and CL1. The OCZ Reaper HPC's don't oc worth a damn but they run mighty tight stock.
The temps are really something I'm not going to discuss too much. The common question seems to be "which app should I trust?". I'll leave this argument to people who know a lot more about intel thermal specs than I do. The author of Real Temp (unclewebb) said something in a post that stuck with me: If you are Prime stable and have left some head room before TjMax, which you have plenty of, then absolute temperatures don't matter one bit. 50C, 55C, 60C, 65C and even 70C doesn't matter while running Prime as long as you are stable. You are within the Intel spec and you aren't going to hurt anything. With no documentation of TjMax by Intel and no user testing of TjMax for your new processor, absolute temperature is no more than just an interesting number no matter what software you are using to report it.
A s-pi 8m run

Good things on P7N Diamond-yes I have it.

Just browsed through the owner's manual on the P7N Diamond..some things which are improved:
NO bios protection in Advanced Menu...means less bad flashes because the user didnt disable it..! Kudos MSI!
Cell menu has tons of available settings for overclocking..nice setup, finally!
Sata connectors are on the edge of the board.
Added fan connectors
LED lights on almost every Pcie-e, CPU and memory connector.
Power switch and reset switch on the board..Kudos MSI!
No diagnostic header/led's..dont need them with the all the lights I guess?
Power supply connector is at the top of board..bad news for cases with power supplies at the bottom, aka Antec/etc..the 8 pin connector just barely reaches.
A real Creative X-Fi card..Kudos MSI!
All in all...a really nice job, especially in the bios. Hope the board does well.
Paul

Joe, yep, got the board! I did have a eVGA 780i that was DOA and was in the process of RMAing it back to Newegg when the P7N hit their site..I just got the P7N and paid the extra $50 difference in price. Well worth it. The P7N just impresses me. Tonight I had the board on the kitchen counter, bench testing it w/a stock Intel cooler on a e6750 and had it overclocked to 3600. What impresses me is the bios improvements and stability. The board will consistantly set whatever multiplier and FSB you set. I ran tests with the 6, 7 and 8 multipliers and all ran like clockwork. I could never do that with the P6N..only got the 6 multiplier to run once, by accident..lol. I stopped at 1800 FSB because I was just checking the system temps, but I'm sure it will do 1900-2000 with no issues. Ah, one thing..the circu-pipe on the northbridge will never do with watercooled cpus. Even with the Intel cooler, the system temps hit 98-100 degrees with .50 volts on the CPU at 3600mhz. And MSI does not supply a fan for the northbridge/circu-pipe. I removed the stock pipe assy, good thing..found why the temps were a little high..during assy, a robot knocked the 8 pin header cover off, and it lodged under the Mosfet heat sink..haha. Only three mosfets were making contact and only half the northbridge heatsink, due to the stress/bending caused by the plastic cover under the Mosfet cooler no doubt. I'm going to be watercooling, so no problem. A Enzo heatsink/fan combo fits the MCP (SB) perfectly and will fit the PCIe 2.0 chipset with some mods..working on that. The Thermalright HR09 mosfet cooler fits the P7N perfectly after flipping the retaining pin legs over so they face right instead of left. The Koolance GPU200 fits the Northbridge with no problem. So, I should have the board in a case in a week or so and then I can do some more testing w/good cooling. Totally impressed so far tho. The Cell Menu has so many options I may have to go to night school to learn what they all do...lol. Afterthough..the eVGA board was cheesy compared to the MSI board...the MSI pcb is nicer...all the caps are solid state (only the caps around the CPU on the eVGA are) and the layout of the board is better. Well..that's all for now.''
Paul

Random reboots /no BSOD P7n Diamond

Specs:-
P7n Diamond (Bios version 1)
Intel C2Q Q6600 GO @ stock cooled by Thermalright ULTIMA 90 +92mm fan
2GB Crucial Ballistix 1066 DDR2 ram @ 2.1v (5-5-5-15 2T)
BFG 8800gts 512 OC
Creative X-FI Fatality
2x 74GB WD Raptor Raid 0
Enermax Infinity 720w
Xp SP3
3d06 12540
Graphics driver 169.21
Chipset driver 9.64
All other BIOS settings on auto
Hi everyone,
I've had my board up and running for around a week now and up until Saturday it had given me only a few minor problems, the first of which was a BSOD when trying to install the Jmicron drivers and the driver s for my X-FI (they do not seem to like each other). I eventually uninstalled the Jmicron drivers and disabled the controller in bios which seemed to do the trick.
For a while after that everything seemed fine got my various games installed all of which seemed to play fine ( TF2, HLF2 (EP 1 & 2), Stalker, X3). Then on Saturday I decided to install the Crysis demo and for a short time all was well, then my system just rebooted, no BSOD no error just restarted to windows this happened again and again. I also bought COD4 and the same happens with as well never in the same place just random. It also rebooted once during a norton virus scan when tried to enter My Computer
My system is running cool enough I think I have 1 105CFM 120mm intake fan, 1 side intake fan 80mm and 2 55CFM 80 mm exhaust fans the air is only ever slightly warm and that was after playing HL2 EP2 for 2/3 hours.
I am at the moment running prime 95 and so far after 3hours all is well, I am also running X3 demo (@ max settings 4xaa 16xaf)in a continuous loop in the background as well to try and trip my system up but at the moment no reboot.
Any Ideas?

Quote from: Bigduke6 on 14-May-08, 04:40:55
Specs:-
P7n Diamond (Bios version 1)
Intel C2Q Q6600 GO @ stock cooled by Thermalright ULTIMA 90 +92mm fan
2GB Crucial Ballistix 1066 DDR2 ram @ 2.1v (5-5-5-15 2T)
BFG 8800gts 512 OC
Creative X-FI Fatality
2x 74GB WD Raptor Raid 0
Enermax Infinity 720w
Xp SP3
3d06 12540
Graphics driver 169.21
Chipset driver 9.64
All other BIOS settings on auto
Hi everyone,
I've had my board up and running for around a week now and up until Saturday it had given me only a few minor problems, the first of which was a BSOD when trying to install the Jmicron drivers and the driver s for my X-FI (they do not seem to like each other). I eventually uninstalled the Jmicron drivers and disabled the controller in bios which seemed to do the trick.
For a while after that everything seemed fine got my various games installed all of which seemed to play fine ( TF2, HLF2 (EP 1 & 2), Stalker, X3). Then on Saturday I decided to install the Crysis demo and for a short time all was well, then my system just rebooted, no BSOD no error just restarted to windows this happened again and again. I also bought COD4 and the same happens with as well never in the same place just random. It also rebooted once during a norton virus scan when tried to enter My Computer
My system is running cool enough I think I have 1 105CFM 120mm intake fan, 1 side intake fan 80mm and 2 55CFM 80 mm exhaust fans the air is only ever slightly warm and that was after playing HL2 EP2 for 2/3 hours.
I am at the moment running prime 95 and so far after 3hours all is well, I am also running X3 demo (@ max settings 4xaa 16xaf)in a continuous loop in the background as well to try and trip my system up but at the moment no reboot.
Any Ideas?
Give this a try.
FSB 1333
DRAM (800 is the best I can get, you might work at 1066)
CPU RATIO 9
DRAM VOLTAGE (your rated spec)
CPU VOLTAGE 0.08750
NB VOLTAGE ONE TICK UNDER 1.400
SB VOLTAGE 1.525
CPU GTL 20
NB GTL 20
FSB TERM VOLTAGE 50
D.O.T / EIST/ SLI Mem = DISABLED
Spread Spectrum = DISABLED
You may be one of the ones like me and a few others that can only run this board stable with overclocking the cpu to 3ghz. That should be easy to do even on air, but keep an eye on it. I was unable to get viper, g.skill or patriot memory to run at 1066 with my board, at least so far, so you may have better luck than I. Except for getting your memory to work at 1066, I can almost promise that this will work for you. I also had the problem with the jmicron drivers and do not use them now.
Word of warning, too much playing around with this can lead to OS corruption, so be easy.

Users running the P7N Diamond and QX9650 please weigh in. I need help...

OK, I'll start from the beginning. I had an EVGA 780i mobo, which ran a Q6600 at 3ghz quite easily. Well, I decided that I had money to burn so I ordered a QX9650. It would not work on the EVGA, the cpu voltage and cpu fsb voltage would not adjust no matter what I tried. So, I popped the cpu into my kids rig, which has a DFI X38 mb and the cpu worked perfectly, voltages adjusted, multiplier adjusted, etc. During the RMA process to EVGA, I got an MSI P7N Diamond to run SLI with. Stuck the cpu in it and away I went into Vista 64, all happy. I had to bump the memory voltage up to 1.95 volts, but that was it. I then decided to raise the multi from 9 to 10. I set it, warm booted and tested it in Vista. 100% stable. 2 days later, I attempted to turn my computer on. No post. I had to power off/on very quickly to get it to post, at which point I got an error message that the cpu vid had failed or there was a mismatch with the cpu to fsb ratio, hit F1 to enter setup or F2 to load defaults. I e-mailed MSI and received beta P05 and it was just downhill from there. I couldn't cold boot at all, stock settings, OC settings, voltages adjusted, it didn't matter. So back to the shipping bios. I got a new beta this morning, dated 2/18, and it was the exact same.
Issues with both beta's:
1. Cannot cold boot.
2. Logitech G15 acts erratically prior to entering Vista.
Things I have tried:
1. Raising Vcore.
2. Raising NB/SB voltages.
2. Raising FSB Terminator voltage.
Nothing helps. MSI simply told me not to OC and run at stock and that there was no problem. Is there anyone else out there that has this cpu and mb? If so, can you post your experience with it and let me know if there is something I am doing wrong or could try?

Below is the actual transcript that I had with MSI on this issue. As far as they are concerned, I don't need to change the multiplier on my QX9650. (Start reading from the bottom up for the actual order of the conversation)
Quote
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Then, there is no problem with the mb.
End User 02/19/2008 There doesn't seem to be any issues with usb while on using the shipping bios, I only see it when I flash to the beta bios'.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 If the stock bios also has the usb issue then try: Have all USB device connected to the rear USB ports that are build onto the mb and retest with all USB header on the mb be removed from any front USB connections or adapter connections and retest. If all steps have been tried and problem still persists then please kindly refer to our website for manufacturer warranty RMA info/request: http://www.msicomputer.com/support/CustomerS.asp
End User 02/19/2008 No change. I cannot even cold-boot at stock settings with this. Also, it still kills my Logitech G15 keyboard randomly. i have to unplug it and plug it back in to get it to power up, and that is only after I boot into Vista. Back on the shipping bios for now at stock settings. Please, if you would, keep me informed of changes or progress. Thanks.
End User 02/19/2008 Thanks! I will poat back if it helps or not.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Beta bios v111 attached to this form.
End User 02/19/2008 Is there any other beta bios' that you have that could help? The P05 didn't work out so well, maybe you have a newer one that I could try? It seems odd that it is only on a cold boot that I have issues and not on warm boots. I am willing to try anything you got at this point!
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Sorry, but MSI did not see any issue with using QX9650 processor.
End User 02/19/2008 So are you saying that as far as MSI is concerned, there is no issue with the QX9650 and the P7N Diamond motherboard? I am not asking you for advice on hot to OC it, I am asking you if you know of the issue and are looking into it to try and correct it. If you do not think there is an issue and are not going to investigate it, then I will be very disappointed.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 If there is no problem with standard bios and no OC then you can refer to other website/forum for OC suggestions or settings. MSI does not provide these setting/suggestions since it can cause damage to the components.
End User 02/19/2008 Also, I am unable to use the Dual Core center, as I am running Vista 64. It does not load properly when using this OS.
End User 02/19/2008 As of now, it boots and runs fine with the shipping bios and no OC. But, why would I have paid such a high premium to get a QX9650, that has an unlocked multiplier, if I cannot use it? Is this strictly an issue with the newer 45nm Intel processors or is it something else? If not being able to use my cpu's unlocked multiplier is "ok", then I may return the board for a refund.
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 What is the problem when system uses the standard bios and not OC?
End User 02/18/2008 Is there a fix on the way or is it just a problem with my hardware? I have it back on the shipping bios and it is at least cold-booting now, as well as my G15 is working. I upped the NB voltage a hair above auto, maybe this has somethinng to do with it?
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 Use the standard bios and use software to OC: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=utility&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1372
End User 02/18/2008 I was way too quick to say everything is OK. I now have cold boot issues aplenty. 9 times out of 10 it will not post on a cold boot, but will warm boot. I have to power off then on real quickly to get it to post at stock speeds. Also, my Logitech G15 started to act erratic with the P05 beta. I am back on the shipping bios until I hear from you.
End User 02/18/2008 Thanks you for the beta. I flashed to it, cleared the cmos and set everything back up and now I have a new problem. Even though I have disabled the EIST function in the bios, it still seems to be on. i am using cpu-z version 1.44.1 to monitor the multiplier and it randomly shifts between whatever I set it to and 6. It is even doing it when the system is loaded, ie playing games. Please, help!
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 Beta bios attached to this form.
End User 02/18/2008 Everything is stable 100%. But, on my QX9650, I set the multiplier to 10X to run at 10x333=3.33ghz. It was fine until this morning. I turned the computer on and it would not post. I powered down and repowered it up and it siad the cpu vid had failed or errored, hit F1 to enter setup or F2 to load defaults. I entered setup and the multiplier was set back to 9x. I left it there and am ok now. Is there a beta bios that helps out operations with the newest Intel 45nm processors, such as the QX9650?
I have absolutely no issues in Vista itself, it is 100% stable. It is only on a cold boot that I have serious issues. And yes, I got 3 in a row, went to work for a few hours, then came home and bam! No cold boot. Also, I don't know how comfortable I am raising the vcore that much, as 1.21-1.25 is the normal operating range. 1.3625 is aweful high. Now, with the 65nm quads, that is more in the range of what would be needed, but no way should it be necessary to pushh this QX9650 to a meeger 3.33ghz. As far as temps go, I have the processor watercooled, so no worries there. I am away from home now until Saturday morning, so I can't test anything until the weekend.
Thanks alot for the responses!
Shawn

Drivers Nforce 20.08 - P7N Diamond

Good morning,
I 've a P7N Diamond Motherboard, based on the Nvidia 780 i chipset and a intel E6700 dual core.
Do you think I can install the NForce drivers 20.08 available on the Nvidia website, without risk ?
Thank you,
Didier

Just want to warn you and any other users that the 20.08 drivers have been reported to cause a lot of problems with all nForce mobos. In fact, the NVidia website is now displaying the previous drivers (15.23) on driver searches on their download site.
Just search google and you'll find many threads in several forums all decrying the recently released 20.08 drivers. The general consensus seems to be, "Stay away from 20.08":
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=8Cd&q=nforce+15.23+vs+20.08&btnG=Search
In essence, 20.08 includes the same drivers as 15.23 but with following differences:
-includes NVidia GPU drivers (useless for mobo users)
-NAM software included in 20.08
-OLDER ethernet driver in 20.08 (reported by many users to break nForce networking)

Another P7N Diamond that cannot install XP

Current setup:
- MSI P7N Diamond motherboard
- OCZ P6400 2 X 2gb Dimms (4gb total)
- PNY nVidia GeForce 9600 GT Verto (512mb) video card
- brand new "green" 650 watt power supply
- 2 X 750gb SATA IDE Seagate drives
- Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66 processor
XP installation starts off normally by creating partition and copying files to it. Then comes the first reboot and the XP screen with the floating line appears. As soon as it hits the first graphical screen, the mouse cursor appears and functions (moving the mouse moves the cursor), about 2 seconds into that, system reboots. After the reboot, it comes back to the first graphical screen after the windows floating line and says "Setup is being restarted......" and the reboot is continual.
- I've tried testing the RAM without issues.
- I've tried using both 1 stick of RAM and both sticks of RAM
- I tried using another known good 1gb stick of RAM
- I have tried with and without the RAID configuration
- I've tried using standard IDE as well as SATA IDE drives
- I've tried installing XP Home and XP Pro (both legit versions)
- I've tried using V.1.0, V1.1 and V.1.2.1 BETA bios
I've currently got a trouble ticket open with MSI tech support, but they tell me to swap RAM and do memory tests (both previously done!).
Nothing that I have done can get XP installed on this seutp and I am just plain frustrated. I'd *REALLY* appreciate any help or suggestions to get this running.
Thanks.
Jerry

Slipstream CD created... trying install now. Nope. Still does the same thing. >:(
Alrighty, let's see if I can do this right:
# CPU brand, model and speed
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ 2.66
# Motherboard model
MSI P7N Diamond, LGA 775, 780LSI, DDR2, M-7510,
# Memory brand, type/speed, size, number of sticks (eg 2x Crucial 512mb DDR400)
2 X OCZ Vista Upgrade Edition Dual Channel (2048mb ea... 4096mb total)
Memory Speed:    800MHz PC6400
Memory CAS Latency:    5-6-6-15
Memory Type:    Dual Channel DDR2
# Video card brand, chipset type, memory size (eg Gainward Geforce 6800GS 512mb AGP)
PNY GeForce nVidia 9600GT
Core speed 650MHz
Memory clock of 1800MHz.
Shader clock is 1625MHz
57.5GB/s of memory bandwidth along with 64 stream processors.
PCI Express 2.0 compliant and backwards compatible with current PCI Express slots as well.
# Hard drive(s) brand, size, type, speed (eg 2x Seagate 200gb SATA150)
2 X Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750GB Hard Drive - 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
Spindle Speed (RPM):    7200
Average Seek (msec):    <9.3
Average Latency (msec):    4.16
Data Transfer Rate on Serial ATA:    Up to 3000 Mb/sec
Nonrecoverable Read Errors per Bits Read:    1 in 10E14
Temperature, Operating (°C):    5 to 60
Temperature, Nonoperating (°C):    -40 to 70
Shock, Operating: 2 msec (Gs):    63
Shock, Nonoperating: 2 msec (Gs):    300
# Any other peripheral cards and devices
The MSI X-Fi audio card
# Operating system and version (eg Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP2)
Windows XP with SP3 slipstreamed onto the CD
# Power Supply Unit brand and output in watts and DC output (amps)
Antec model EA-650
650 W max
The symptom:
Windows XP install CD, boots properly, installs files properly... on first reboot to graphical screen it reboots after saying "Setup is restarting......" It will do this continually.
What have I done to date:
- Reduced setup to 1 2GB memory stick... no change
- Done extensive memory checks with 1 and 2 sticks of OCZ RAM and Platinum 1GB RAM all without errors... no change
- Changed to known good RAM (1 GB of Platinum DDR2 @ 533mhz)... no change
- Tried installs with and without the RAID configuration (RAID 1)... no change
- Tried using 250gb standard IDE as well as 750gb SATA IDE drives (all known good or 100% new drives)... no change
- Tried installing XP Home and XP Pro (both legit versions)... no change
- Tried using V.1.0, V1.1 and V.1.2.1 BETA bios... no change
- Tried install using Windows XP Pro with SP3 slipstreamed into the disk image... no change
- Tried using both the Bios Failsafe settings and Optimized Default settings... no change
- Tried the SPREAD SPECTRUM settings both enabled and disabled... no change
Question, could it be a bios setting that could unlock this mystery from hell for me somehow?
Thanks for the help so far Aaron.

P7N Diamond / Q6600 / HELP!

Intro
Good Afternoon. I have searched everywhere for information regarding the issues I’m having and haven’t found anything, so I though id ask here. About a year ago I built two computers using the exact same parts (one for me and the other for a friend of mine). My friends build has been running perfect since day one, with no issues or errors. Mine however, has been a problem since I turned it on. I don’t want to post a confusing wall of text, but want to give as many details as possible, so here goes.
Problems
1)   Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
2)   Looping Restarts – After powering on it will restart itself between 3-6 times after boot screen, then successfully boots onto windows ok.
3)   Crashing to Desktop/BSOD’s – Mainly runs ok when on desktop/applications/internet. Games are the issue. (Fixed some errors by replacing CMOS Battery. Main BSOD error “Hardware Error – Please contact your manufacturer”
Previous Tests Done
1) Cleared BIOS settings
2) Stripped it down to barebone (outside case), and removed everything It didn’t need to run.
3) Tried changing RAM - Dual/Single Channel – One stick at a time.
4) Memtest, Futuremark, Prime95, GPU-Z, CPU-Z and others.
*Currently have processor on RMA as it died (Have signal to monitor from Graphics Card, but no boot, so testing on the fly is impossible*
NOTE: All drivers are up-to-date, Computer Temperatures are more than low enough
*BIOS changes/setup*
Advanced BIOS Features:
   * CPU Feature
   o Execute Bit Support = disabled
   o Set Limit CPUID maxVal to 3 = disabled
   * Chipset Feature
   o HPET = disabled
Cell Menu:
   * D.O.T = disabled
   * Intel EIST = enabled
   * SLI Ready Memory = enabled
   * System Clock Mode = Manual
   o FSB Clock = 1333
   o DRAM Clock = 800
   * Adjust CPU Ration = 9
   * Advanced DRAM configuration
   o DRAM Timing Mode = Auto
   * Adjust PCI-E Frequency = 100
   * Auto disable DRAM/PCI Frequency = enabled
   * CPU Voltage = Auto
   * DRAM Voltage = Auto
   * NB Voltage = Auto
   * SB Voltage = Auto
   * FSB Terminator = Auto
   * --- All other voltages are left on "Auto" ---
   * Spread Spectrum = disabled
Computer Specs:
Case: Thermaltake Armour+ VA3000
MB: MSI P7N Diamond
MS-7510 Ver1.0 (Rev1.0) (A7510-NMS100) (Bios Ver: 1.4)
HDD: 1 X Western Digital 500GB - SATA (WD500DAAKS)
GPU: 1 X BFG GTX-280OC PCI-E
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.4GHZ/8M/1066/05A (SLACR)
CPU FAN:Zalman CNPS9500 AM2
MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
OTHER CARDS: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (Free with Motherboard)
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64Bit – SP1
PSU: Hiper Type-M SLI 1000w
*Air Cooling: 5 x Internal Fans, 9 including CPU/GPU/PSU/RAM
PSU IMG:
Additional Information:
As mentioned earlier, my Q6600 is in the process of RMA so can’t really do any testing with Bios or anything else. Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that? As I asked Corsair before the build and they said it would be fine.
I hope I’ve given all the required details, needed for a conclusion to my problems or even a guess.
Overall, Thankyou for reading. Any help/advice is much appreciated.

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1) Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
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o FSB Clock = 1333
Mh, did you mistype something, or are you talking about overclocking when you mention "optimised settings"? I mean: FSB 1333 is already higher than the native FSB Speed of a Q6600 (=266 MHz or 1066 MT/s effectively). Can you explain again what you mean? Because if you really overclocked the FSB/CPU to 333 MHz FSB CLock Speed (and higher) all your problems may simply be the symptoms of non-stable overclocking settings (which is nothing unusual).
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MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
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Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that?
Yes and no. The native speed of your modules is DDR2-800 @1.8V +/- 0.1V (JEDEC Standard) which means that such a setting is compliant with the industry specifications for DDR2 Memory and should pose no stability risk to the system (given that none of the modules are faulty).
DDR2-1066 on the other hand is an OC rating that requires you to raise the voltage to 2.1V and thereby above industry specifications. Stability problems @DDR2-1066//2.1V are not unusual. So in that perspective, the stuff the Intel Technicians pointed out to you is absolutely correct.

P7N Diamond - JMicron JMB363 RAID w/PATA

So I've upgraded from 975XPUE (RIP)to P7N Diamond and have WinXP running somewhat stable. Amazingly, this is using prev OS install from 975X mobo. Somehow I've managed to get new chipset drivers installed and all hardware recognized. I'll probably do a clean install down the road but would like to pick up a new drive first to keep old drive for backup.
Anyhoo, I'm having issues getting the JMicron controller to configure my 2 x IDE drives into a RAID 0 array. P7N Diamond is using JMB363 controller whereas 975X had the older JMB361. And the older mobo/JMicron chipset was able to run PATA drives in RAID 0 just fine.
But now I'm stuck. This is partly my fault. When I originally swapped mobos and booted the system, the JMicron BIOS actually recognized my existing RAID 0 array. I had set the bios option to "RAID" and the subsequent JMicron boot screen listed both drives as "RAID Inside".
However, I wasn't initially sure which BIOS options referenced which IDE controllers. Turns out, the NVidia controller (primary port) is in the sub-menu and only has options for IDE and RAID. The JMicron controller (secondary port) is in the top menu and has options for IDE, RAID, *and* AHCI. This misled me into thinking the BIOS options were reversed, that the top menu referenced NVidia primary controller and the submenu referenced JMicron secondary. At least, that's how it was done on the 975X. So, in a brilliant decision, I changed the RAID option on JMicron controller to AHCI (because that's how the Intel controller on my 975X was configured and how I thought WinXP would expect to see the primary boot drive).
On subsequent boot, JMicron screen now showed PATA drives as "Non-RAID". So, my array was lost, but luckily I only kept expendable files on RAID. But now I'm not able to rebuild a new array. Resetting the BIOS option to RAID mode and entering the JMicron configuration will display both drives in Non-RAID config. But if I try to create a new array, it says "no enough drive available". If I try to revert drives to Non-RAID or delete a RAID array, it says all drives are already Non-RAID and there are no existing arrays to delete.
So I'm lost. I've seen posts in some msg forums claiming JMicron can only support RAID on SATA drives. But the JMB363 only has eSATA ports. And I can't imagine only supporting external devices for RAID?? That and I know from personal experience that JMB361 was able to put PATA drives into RAID, and that the JMB363 recognized my old array initially (before I foolishly ruined the config).
Any ideas how I can create a new RAID 0 w/ 2xPATA on the P7N Diamond? Has anyone else attempted this?
Things I've tried:
1) Deleting partitions on PATA drives and leaving empty;
2) Deleting partitions on PATA drives and creating new;
3) Resetting BIOS option for JMicron to IDE and repeating steps 1 and 2 above
3) Resetting BIOS option for JMicron to AHCI and repeating steps 1 and 2 above
3) Resetting BIOS option for JMicron to RAID and repeating steps 1 and 2 above
Want to try next:
1) Remove PATA drives from current sys and lowlevel format in a diff machine
TIA
(config is same as in sig except substitute P7N Diamond for 975X PUE)

Download the latest driver directly from JMicron (1.17.40.05):
ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/Win2k_xp_Vista/JMB36X_WinDrv_R1.17.40.05.zip
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Looking in Device Manager under IDE Controllers, I have 4 Primary IDE Channel, 4 secondary IDE Channel, and 4 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller..
When the drivers are correctly installed, the JMicron controller should appear under SCSI- and RAID Controllers.

P7N Diamond issue

Hi,
Have a P7N Diamond, have a few problems with this m/b(not sure where to post this, think its a bios issue):
- Often get hang-ups, sometimes it returns after a minute...
- Sometimes it looses connection to a Samsung 1TB harddisc, have tried to change it without any change.
- Games doesnt run smoothly... get small and very annoying delays in framerate!!
There is not a hardware issue as you can see bellow!! :-p
At the moment I have the v1.3 bios, have the same issues with older bios...
* Does this m/b have full support for 1TB hdd?
* Does this m/b have the SATA optical drive issue?
Know that the nvidia chipset have some issue with sata optical drives....
* Are there any new vga bios... since I have all msi.... thougt I would be able to update it thrue liveupdate!!!
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7510
BIOS: v1.3
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 8GB RAM
VGA: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB Super OC
Optical Drive: 2 x Sata optical drive (Blueray + DVD-RW)
Drivers: Have lastest version avalable from nvidia
HDD1: ST325062 250GB
HDD2: WDC WD10 01FALS-00J7B 1TB
HDD3: SAMSUNG HD753LJ 750GB
HDD4: Maxtor 6 V250F0 250GB
HDD5: SAMSUNG HD103UJ 1TB

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Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7510
BIOS: v1.3
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 8GB RAM
VGA: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB Super OC
Optical Drive: 2 x Sata optical drive (Blueray + DVD-RW)
Drivers: Have lastest version avalable from nvidia
HDD1: ST325062 250GB
HDD2: WDC WD10 01FALS-00J7B 1TB
HDD3: SAMSUNG HD753LJ 750GB
HDD4: Maxtor 6 V250F0 250GB
HDD5: SAMSUNG HD103UJ 1TB
What PSU are you using to power all that? Please post the brand name, the model name and the current limits (A) for the main voltage rails (12V, 5V and 3.3V).
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Memory: 8GB RAM
What brand/model of RAM are you using? Can you post a link to the manufacturer's product site for these sticks?
Have you tested your system in reduced configuration?
- CPU
- video card
- one stick of RAM
- one hard drive (system hard drive)
- keyboad + mouse
- power connectors
... to see if these issues persist:
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- Often get hang-ups, sometimes it returns after a minute...
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- Games doesnt run smoothly... get small and very annoying delays in framerate!!

Problems w/ on-board NVidia RAID + PCI RAID on P7N Diamond

Here's the setup and issue.
I'm booting off of the on-board NVidia RAID on my P7N Diamond. It's RAID5 w/ 4 WD 640GB drives. Works fine.
I've recently pulled a NetCell SyncRAID SR5000 PCI RAID card (runs an adapted RAID3) from an old system where it worked fine and was NOT the boot drive...just storage. Plugged it in the one and only PCI slot on my P7N Diamond. Once it's in, the system will no longer boot.
When the PCI RAID card is not installed, the mobo's BIOS boot menu shows "NVIDIA RAID5 1". As soon as I install the PCI RAID card, the NVidia RAID disappears (no longer an option at all) and is replaced by "IDE:Revolution". At that point the system cannot find any bootable source and fails.
I also get an error message "Not Enough Space to Copy PCI Option ROM".
Unfortunately, MSI's tech support is passing the buck on this one. They're saying:
Then sound like the card and the board sata controller are not compatible. If the card is connected it disable the onboard SATA controller. Once the card install the port is enable again. please check with the card manufacture. thanks
I really find this annoying as the card works just fine in other systems. It's having an issue WITH THIS MOTHERBOARD, but they tell me to go to the card manufacturer. The real problem is NetCell went out of business a few years ago, so they're not available to go to.
So, the quick and dirty is the manufacture of the only motherboard I've had a problem with concerning this card won't help, and the card manufacture cannot be reached. I'm hoping someone here may come up with a workaround.
I'm trying to consolidate down to 1 computer, and I specifically purchased a case and power supply with this RAID migration in mind. I'm gunna be PISSED if I can't use a RAID array I spent close to a grand for (a couple years ago)!

MSI continues to blame the chipset or PCI card for the incompatibility (not the motherboard), saying there's nothing they can do.
Does ANYONE have an idea other than setting aside my RAID array?

P7N Diamond RAM compatibility

Is anyone using Patriot RAM with a P7N Diamond or other MSI nVidia chipset board? It isn't specifically recommended on the website, but I was wondering if it works anyway. Specifically, I have Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) PVS24G6400LLK.

The Patriot memory "should" work. You may have to go into cell menu and change the Auto settings to manual on the DDR if you have any issues. Then you can set the DDR voltage and timing based on the mfg's recommendations.
G/luck......Paul

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