Package Management System(PMS) in Solaris 10 ?

Is there an effort to improve P.M.S. in solaris 10 ?

Sorry, hit the entery key too soon.
Dtrace,zone etc are all cool stuff. but I like to see the PMS got imporved.
Sun's pkgadd is an ok PMS but it can be better. The biggest problem I see is the lack of package dependency install/remove and package depot support.
HPUX's SD-UX allow us to install apache package and its depended packages like openldap,berkely db etc automatically. all happend with just one command.
tj

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This is an area where Solaris could really be improved.
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ibendiben wrote:
pedepy wrote:Then again, just getting everyone to agree & follow a standard hierarchy in the first place would also solve that problem.
But it stops evolution in a way... It is like the bible telling you what to do, because it's THE (only) GO(o)D way to do it.
We find 1000 years later that this standard is outdated and stump (well I do ). It makes people narrow minded, and keeps you from moving on.
So... I like your idea...
At least thinking about things and exploring the other possible ways makes you wiser... -> go on!
This has nothing to do with any sort of absolute right/wrong or any evolution. It's about offering users a flexibility in one certain area that. The debate is about whether or not, realistically, they can benefit significantly from that choice, or if its better to standardize.
Don't bring up your anti-religion complaints without warrant, please. No one's impressed that you're yet another person with a grudge against religion.
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Stythys wrote:what's the point of having different distros if they all start trying to be the same?
There's no point at all there because that's not my point. The idea of universal package management is merely meant to increase compatibility, to provide a way to easily install the same piece of software using the same process on any distro. Imagine the benefits this could have for newbie users once such an option was further developed and polished. You could tell someone how to install a given program and it would work no matter what distro you run. As it is right now you have specific instructions per distro, not to mention that one distro has some software which another just doesn't.
It is not meant to replace the existing package management in these distros, just add a way to easily install software even without it, when it doesn't have what you need or when it's simply simpler for you to do it this way.
Stythys wrote:Anyways I seriously doubt other distros are just gonna start using ABS if asked. If you want pacman/ABS on a different system, just compile it yourself
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But yes, it does start with someone compiling it.
Stythys wrote:but then why not just use arch
Why aren't all GNU/Linux users the users of Arch?
ABS is by far not the only thing which differentiates Arch from others so it's not like putting ABS on other distros would result in them becoming exactly like Arch. That said, people have different preferences. Not everyone wants nor is knowledgeable enough to go through Arch's install process, for example.
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For process management, basically I would like to
know is there some kind of interface to the the
prstat application (ie. Memory and CPU utilization).
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Also 'dtrace' can provide tons of dynamic information, but that's not necessarily what you're looking for.
For package management, I am looking for the ability
to add, remove, and query the package �database�.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the Solaris package
�database� seems similar to that of a Debian system
(at least from the perspective that the
informational files are stored as plain text in a
well-defined directory [ie /var/sadm/pkg/]).Yes, although it's based on the SysV packaging system. I don't believe there's any API for it outside of the 'pkg*' utilities.
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wroseland wrote:
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