Packet loss after bonding + vlan

Hi, I am hoping someone may help me with this issue:
I have a motherboard with 2 Intel NICs.
I created a bonding interface, mode = 4 (LACP), and assigned no IP to it.
create one vlan to internet (dhcp)
another vlan to local network (static)
both NICs are connected to the same switch, and LACP configured on the ports
Problem:
ping from this one to any other pingable hosts gave strange result, more or less half of the packets are lost.
when I pulled of one cable, the ping returned to normal...
something is definitively wrong here, tried to connect the ports to two diffrent switches, same result.
other computers using LACP has no such problem in the same network.
If someone has any idea, I will be very greatful. otherwise it seems to be a very time consuming problem to solve. (I have tried to google yesterday without success).
Thanks,
Last edited by leihuang (2013-09-17 06:19:42)

I located the issue of the packet loss. I have a security system that uploads FTP images of the cameras and after the reboot of the network, the only computer that wasn't shut down was the security camera PC.
So I think what happened was after I brought everything back up, it was saturating the outgoing bandwidth, causing packet loss and high latency. Once I determined what it was and shut off the FTP image upload, the pings stabilized and it is working fine now. Trace routes are still not functioning, but I can live without that for now.

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    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
    Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=126
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    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=253
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
    Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=253
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    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
    Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
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    Latency Max
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