Flood ping of loopback device gives 20% packet loss!
While trying to diagnose a problem with my Airport Express (high packet loss even with a strong signal), I noticed that my Macbook cannot reliably flood ping its own loopback device!
bash-3.2$ $ sudo ping -f 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
....^C
--- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
994 packets transmitted, 750 packets received, 24% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.012/0.017/0.103/0.007 ms
As the loopback interface is internal, I get precisely the same result whether Airport is turned on or off.
This seems completely crazy to me! Anyone have any idea what might be going on?
Message was edited by: zzz Matt Taylor (replaced ping output with one with linebreaks to avoid excessively wide post)
Can't help you specifically with that, but just last night my Atheros AR5008 adapter starting dropping 40%-80% of the packets to my router. It's unusably slow now. I had this problem with the 2.6.38 kernel and was able to solve it by passing the nohwcrypt option to the ath9k module, but that doesn't work anymore.
I'm now on the 3.0.4 kernel, Arch x64. Last updates that MAY be relevant were dbus-sharp, dbus-sharp-glib, and gnutls. I started having problems the day after upgrading these packages. I'm connecting in 802.11n mode.
I've been looking for evidence of related bugs but so far nothing. I wonder if this is a broader issue affecting more than just the Atheros or Ralink drivers?
EDIT: downgrading gnutls from 3.0.3-1 to 3.0.2-1 reduced my packet loss to about 15%, so the internet is now basically usable. I also tried downgrading glib-networking (which I updated to version 2.28.7-5 a few days back), but that didn't seem to help.
Last edited by rsking84 (2011-09-22 01:32:59)
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Hi,
I have been having a problem with Verizon FIOS Internet AND Phone since Thursday afternoon.
Basically I have intermittent outages several times a day of 15-40 seconds where my download doesn't work, but upload still does. This happens on BOTH my phone and internet. Therefore it's not my router or computer equipment causing the problem.
Here's what happens:
- On the internet: I have a periodic download problem where I can receive no data for about 15 - 40 seconds. After that it returns to normal
- On the phone: If I'm on the phone at the same time then during that period of internet loss I also can not hear anything that the person I am talking to says. However they can hear me just fine (ie. download only problem)
I have been talking to Verizon technical support and they have blamed my router and ONT. I have tried switching off the router, and using a different one. Also they have replaced the ONT twice.
* This problem occurs on BOTH the phone and internet at the same time. This clearly suggests the problem is not in my own house.
In fact I know exactly where the problem lies. I did a traceroute to google below:
Tracing route to google.com [74.125.113.106]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 4 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms L300.NWRKNJ-VFTTP-122.verizon-gni.net [74.105.157.1]
3 9 ms 8 ms 7 ms G2-0-0-1822.NWRKNJ-LCR-08.verizon-gni.net [130.81.133.156]
4 11 ms 8 ms 7 ms P15-0.NWRKNJ-LCR-07.verizon-gni.net [130.81.30.148]
5 9 ms 6 ms 7 ms so-5-0-0-0.NWRK-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.8]
6 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL3.EWR6.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.177]
7 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 0.so-1-0-1.XL3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.213]
8 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms TenGigE0-6-0-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.41]
9 33 ms 31 ms 35 ms google-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.72.62]
10 8 ms 11 ms 10 ms 209.85.252.215
11 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms 209.85.249.11
12 31 ms 29 ms 29 ms 209.85.241.222
13 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms 209.85.241.207
14 41 ms 39 ms 34 ms 209.85.243.1
15 27 ms 27 ms 29 ms vw-in-f106.1e100.net [74.125.113.106]
Trace complete.
Then I pinged each device for hops 2-4. When the problem occurs the first one in the hop - 74.105.157.1 - runs fine. The second device - 130.81.133.156 - times out, and all other devices further down the chain time out. This clearly suggest that the device:
130.81.133.156 has major problems.
I have mentioned this to tech support, but they have no way for me to send them logs. Apparently the support technicians at Verizon can not be trusted with even the most basic of tools like email and the web. They also shield me from the NT (Network technician), who is so special that even the tech support guys are only allowed to text chat with him, not actually talk to him. I have enough logs here to clearly show what the problem is.
The latest from tech support is that they are sending yet another guy by my house tomorrow to witness this problem firsthand. Then he will call support that will text chat with the NT, and MAYBE they'll start thinking it's not me.
My main question here is: "How do I get Verizon to believe it really could be a problem in their own network?"
Here are some threads from last year that explain exactly the same problem I'm having. So it wasn't just me:
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/Verizon-FIOS-intermittent-connection-drops...
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-Internet/Intermittent-Network-Timeouts/m-p/28138
One person said Verizon finally fixed it by replacing a PON card. I'm not sure if this is the same problem as that though.
I am an avid Starcraft player and this is driving me crazy because I am getting dropped from my games all the time. Also phone conversations suck when there's these big lags where I can't hear who I'm talking to.
I have had Verizon FIOS internet for 3 years now and this is the first problem I've ever had with it. But I'm starting to get majorly frustrated at how long it's taking to resolve the problem.
Here is a sample of the ping logs I was talking about for different devices all at the same time.
Device 2 in the Trace Route:
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=59ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=126
Reply from 74.105.157.1: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=126
Device 3 in the Trace Route:
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=253
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=253
Reply from 130.81.133.156: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=253
Device 4 in the Trace Route:
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=252
Reply from 130.81.30.148: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=252
Any help, thoughts, suggestions, etc would be great appreciated!
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I requested a MAC code and despite it taking 17 days to get it, not the 5 days as required by Ofcom, I am now free of BT.
My IP profile is reset to where it should be, my service is no longer throttled, and I am now paying only £5.99 a month with plusnet, for the service BT should have been giving me, my line rental is cheaper too.
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Hi all,
I want to explain my little problem to you, hoping someone can give me an answer:
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*bunnybox:~ alex$ python*
*Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Oct 5 2007, 21:08:09)*
*GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin*
*Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.*
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*11 2.840622 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UDP Source port: 49256 Destination port: telnet [UDP CHECKSUM INCORRECT]*
*Frame 11 (48 bytes on wire, 48 bytes captured)*
Null/Loopback
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*Internet Protocol, Src: 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20), Dst: 192.168.1.100 (192.168.1.100)*
*User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: filenet-tms (32768), Dst Port: telnet (23)*
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*0000 74 72 79 20 74 6f 20 73 65 6e 64 20 74 68 69 73 try to send this*
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*NOTE: don't care about port 23, because no telnet or other services are listening on it, it's only a closed port.*
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Hope someone can give me an answer,
PS: If this is not an appropriate place to publish this type of question, please tell me where I can.
Have a nice day,
Alessandro.Hi,
Have you receive some answers about your problem because I have the same ...
Thanks,
Leyoda -
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I see Packet loss when pinging from/to a cisco 3560e switch. CPU utilization is normal.
Switches are running with IOS c3560e-universalk9-mz.122-35.SE5.bin.
Packet loss is observed for all the devices irrespective of directly connected or remote devices.
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03737C48 10.47.0.229.60053 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039ACDC4 10.47.0.229.61929 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B316C0 10.47.0.229.27544 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
038228F0 10.47.0.229.16506 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039C3D04 10.47.0.229.15207 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A9BD0 10.47.0.229.52983 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0394152C 10.47.0.229.22425 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
037D811C 10.47.0.229.21117 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039C12BC 10.47.0.229.37437 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03933B84 10.47.0.229.34085 161.61.35.250.49 TIMEWAIT
03B32340 10.47.0.229.45729 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
038247D0 10.47.0.229.32816 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A92D8 10.47.0.229.38680 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
037370F0 10.47.0.229.13212 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
037D85F0 10.47.0.229.38728 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B2B284 10.47.0.229.23428 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B2ADB0 10.47.0.229.56836 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0394BFF0 10.47.0.229.23257 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
036604DC 10.47.0.229.44437 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0394C700 10.47.0.229.22 192.37.184.211.61639 ESTAB
039B9A68 10.47.0.229.20543 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03739B28 10.47.0.229.15392 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
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0392EA48 10.47.0.229.13862 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0365E23C 10.47.0.229.27856 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03817C0C 10.47.0.229.64929 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039357C8 10.47.0.229.22088 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
037375C4 10.47.0.229.21832 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039C20E8 10.47.0.229.18169 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03716D08 10.47.0.229.61993 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A74E4 10.47.0.229.62948 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03655480 10.47.0.229.14052 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039407F0 10.47.0.229.49643 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A53AC 10.47.0.229.13233 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03739FFC 10.47.0.229.16605 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B82B8 10.47.0.229.16458 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039BEBA4 10.47.0.229.64377 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03741980 10.47.0.229.13866 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B3ABF8 10.47.0.229.19365 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B5810 10.47.0.229.24768 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03956E48 10.47.0.229.55980 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03946820 10.47.0.229.65053 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
037DBE94 10.47.0.229.15283 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A4854 10.47.0.229.48562 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
TCB Local Address Foreign Address (state)
03B33320 10.47.0.229.29803 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B3B79C 10.47.0.229.12142 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03713C9C 10.47.0.229.63799 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039BBECC 10.47.0.229.14763 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03656E40 10.47.0.229.16357 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0362A73C 10.47.0.229.62450 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B878C 10.47.0.229.64402 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03826CFC 10.47.0.229.16108 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B2CA34 10.47.0.229.17634 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03AD78D0 10.47.0.229.15249 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03AD967C 10.47.0.229.20389 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B2C560 10.47.0.229.37079 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039C5128 10.47.0.229.24711 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03822F74 10.47.0.229.54866 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0372C5FC 10.47.0.229.13298 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0372D278 10.47.0.229.12407 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A33D0 10.47.0.229.36573 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039BCEF8 10.47.0.229.53853 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039C02D8 10.47.0.229.53725 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B5CE4 10.47.0.229.58027 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0381866C 10.47.0.229.17100 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
TCB Local Address Foreign Address (state)
039BB374 10.47.0.229.53148 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03AD3634 10.47.0.229.19716 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
0362DAA4 10.47.0.229.19479 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0365AE60 10.47.0.229.62209 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0362D5D0 10.47.0.229.41327 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
037D7C48 10.47.0.229.58283 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03955474 10.47.0.229.33810 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
0373B15C 10.47.0.229.23331 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
036628D0 10.47.0.229.46856 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03819584 10.47.0.229.19861 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0394D000 10.47.0.229.64732 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
0394B760 10.47.0.229.19967 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B6BD4 10.47.0.229.40096 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03AD7150 10.47.0.229.65184 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039BC3A0 10.47.0.229.64702 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B3A724 10.47.0.229.60399 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
037145E0 10.47.0.229.43951 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03955EDC 10.47.0.229.29015 161.61.35.250.49 TIMEWAIT
0365FB34 10.47.0.229.13961 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03828D54 10.47.0.229.12743 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
037DB40C 10.47.0.229.23708 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
TCB Local Address Foreign Address (state)
039AF814 10.47.0.229.15100 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0392E344 10.47.0.229.23399 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
0393DC3C 10.47.0.229.15393 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03AD85D0 10.47.0.229.40932 161.61.35.250.49 TIMEWAIT
039574CC 10.47.0.229.25935 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03738B74 10.47.0.229.58656 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039AD91C 10.47.0.229.56760 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B3BC70 10.47.0.229.15058 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B2DC54 10.47.0.229.51131 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B393F0 10.47.0.229.11957 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B2610 10.47.0.229.33728 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B311EC 10.47.0.229.18047 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A8E04 10.47.0.229.52022 161.61.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
0365D460 10.47.0.229.12241 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B33E78 10.47.0.229.47640 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0372C128 10.47.0.229.60323 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03661CD8 10.47.0.229.39923 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0393C73C 10.47.0.229.41864 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03829584 10.47.0.229.56673 161.61.35.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0362AC10 10.47.0.229.31952 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039BF078 10.47.0.229.22636 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
TCB Local Address Foreign Address (state)
0365CF8C 10.47.0.229.14476 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B443C 10.47.0.229.59226 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0393E794 10.47.0.229.56282 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03657740 10.47.0.229.25769 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B2F6E8 10.47.0.229.19328 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0373AC88 10.47.0.229.25766 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B213C 10.47.0.229.28882 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039C07AC 10.47.0.229.38201 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03AD8DD0 10.47.0.229.23002 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
03739048 10.47.0.229.29572 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039BA464 10.47.0.229.32273 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B31E6C 10.47.0.229.32521 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
0365EBE0 10.47.0.229.41319 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03938804 10.47.0.229.62841 10.41.35.250.49 CLOSEWAIT
039A1AF8 10.47.0.229.12758 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
039B7DE4 10.47.0.229.20921 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
036549F8 10.47.0.229.51903 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03714CC8 10.47.0.229.45145 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
037425F8 10.47.0.229.56492 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT
03B39D74 10.47.0.229.18174 10.41.81.55.49 CLOSEWAIT -
High Packet Loss, High Ping and Slow Connection Ov...
Hi There,
I have been a customer with the BT unlimited broadband package for a little under two years and up until recently have had no real issues with the service. This was until around 3/4 weeks ago I noticed that the internet was very slow and certain online games or applications like Netflix would lose all of its quality or stop completely. At first I thought nothing of it and simply reset my BT Home hub router, and sure enough everything was back to normal. However after around 2-3 hours of moderate use (gaming online or watching Netflix) the problem surfaced again.
Now I am lucky if I can get the entire way through a 40 minute TV episode before the quality drops and/or the service requires buffering. I have already contacted BT via the helpline and the service lady ran through the obligatory steps (turn off, wait 5 minutes, reset the home hub etc.) but she failed to understand that although rebooting the home hub does alleviate the problem initially, the symptoms of a slow connection, high packet loss and high ping always return within an hour.
Four the last couple of weeks I have been trying to investigate the problem myself and I have done the following things:
Tested the line using the master socket (no difference)
Opened the ports on my firewall within the home hub (no difference)
Directly wired in the computer instead of relying on the wifi (no difference)
Tested for interference from neighbours wifi using inSSIDider office (it wasn’t, operating on different channels)
Switched every device that requires internet off apart from the PC (no difference)
So with all that in mind I am fairly confident that it is nothing within my house that has caused a significant reduction in internet quality.
Now I have tried my best to display the problem I am having by recording the connection quality for the last 24 hours. The table below represents the condition and quality of the connection after leaving it a period of time without resetting:
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 21:52:14
Downstream:
12.96 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.7 dB / 5.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
29.4 dB / 16.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
987297 / 12745
CRC Events (Down/Up):
254 / 15268
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
2437 / 252630
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
189 / 36430
And here is a result of the ping and packet loss during this time:
Now I immediately reset the home hub after running that test and ran the test again. These are the results I a achieved within 2 minutes of internet connectivity:
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:01:05
Downstream:
13.77 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.4 dB / 5.6 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
29.4 dB / 16.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
159 / 12746
CRC Events (Down/Up):
1 / 15573
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
0 / 252639
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
1 / 36438
Even within the time it has taken to compose this page my internet quality has nose-dived from the previous result above to the following:
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:52:31
Downstream:
13.77 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.1 dB / 5.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
29.4 dB / 16.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
14544 / 12749
CRC Events (Down/Up):
14 / 15584
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
72 / 252647
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
10 / 36449
What is causing this poor quality in connection and what can be done to rectify the problem?
Thank you for your response in advanced.
Regards,
Richard.Thank you for you quick reply, I have just moved my hub to the master socket again and re-run the test and I seem to be getting the same results.
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 days, 00:17:47
Downstream:
12.96 Mbps
Upstream:
910 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.0 dB / 5.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
28.7 dB / 15.9 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
20.4 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
26417 / 5
CRC Events (Down/Up):
1 / 303
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
31 / 11
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
10 / 36522
I have also checked if the bell wire was attached and it is not. My socket is of the new type with the inclusion of an inductor on the faceplate. My ADSL filters and modem cable already have the middle connecting pins removed so I don’t think it is a wiring problem, at least in my apartment anyway. I have also searched for problems with the exchange and they are showing green for my area. (Liverpool Central)
I have just rang the quiet line and I do not appear to have any noise on the line. However, all I have is a cordless phone and I know that is not ideal for determining noise due to the radio frequency interfering with the phone speaker.
Again thank you for you time on this issue.
Regards,
Richard -
Transparent FW and pinging to remote device
Hi everyone,
I was reading about transparent FW it says
Unlike a transparent switch, however, the device will not flood frames out interfaces for an unknown MAC address destination. Instead the ASA will respond with an ARP request for a directly connected device. If the destination is remote, the ASA will attempt to ping the remote device.
Question
How ASA will ping the remote device will it ping by static route config on ASA ?
Say we have transparent FW between 2 switches and one side say switch1 has a server is connected to it.
How ASA will ping this server?
Now we can say this server as remote device if it is on different subnet then the ASA interface?
Seems ASA will have mac address of directly connected inetrfaces.
Thanks
MaheshHi,
I actually configured one of my ASA5505 as Transparent last night and tested it abit.
I had NO default route on the ASA5505 and the connections from the host behind the Transparent firewall worked just fine. Though I didnt use any management connection to the ASA other than console cable.
I guess for remote management connections and certain traffic originated by the ASA itself, the default route is needed BUT not for the actual host traffic through the ASA. The host already has a default gateway configured and it will ARP for its MAC address through the Transparent ASA and already knows where to forward the traffic to reach the remote host. ASA just has to determine where to forward the traffic.
I enabled several debugs on the ASA and it would indeed seem that when the ASA still has absoletely no knowledge of MAC address behind its "inside" or "outside" it will at the start use Traceroute.
I will post the debugs shortly.
EDIT: Debugs
L2-FIREWALL(config)# sh debug
debug l2-indication enabled at level 255
debug mac-address-table enabled at level 255
debug arp-inspection enabled at level 255
debug icmp trace enabled at level 255
debug arp enabled at level 1
I first issued a "clear mac-address-table" and after that I initiated ICMP Echo to a remote network.
My IP addresses were
192.168.103.1 Host default gateway - MACaca0.1679.6d1b
192.168.103.2 ASA5505 IP address
192.168.103.3 Host IP address - MAC 1cc1.debe.80c5
192.168.101.1 Remote Host
f1_tf_process_l2_learn:learn indication , cur_ifc inside, new_ifc inside
mac_address: 1cc1.debe.80c5
add_l2fwd_entry: Going to add MAC 1cc1.debe.80c5.
add_l2fwd_entry: Added MAC 1cc1.debe.80c5 into bridge table thru inside.
add_l2fwd_entry: Sending LU to add MAC 1cc1.debe.80c5.
f1_tf_process_l2_miss:MISS indication ip address 165a8c0, Vlan: 1,mac_address aca0.1679.6d1b
MISS IND: Skipping learning for same interface
f1_tf_process_l2_miss:IP address belongs to differentsubnet. Sending ICMP traceroute
icmp_mktracert: Block allocated
ICMP echo request from 192.168.103.2 to 192.168.101.1 ID=4388 seq=0 len=32
f1_tf_process_l2_learn:learn indication , cur_ifc outside, new_ifc outside
mac_address: aca0.1679.6d1b
add_l2fwd_entry: Going to add MAC aca0.1679.6d1b.
add_l2fwd_entry: Added MAC aca0.1679.6d1b into bridge table thru outside.
add_l2fwd_entry: Sending LU to add MAC aca0.1679.6d1b.
ICMP echo reply from 192.168.101.1 to 192.168.103.2 ID=4388 seq=0 len=32
ICMP echo request from inside:192.168.103.3 to outside:192.168.101.1 ID=1 seq=244 len=32
ICMP echo reply from outside:192.168.101.1 to inside:192.168.103.3 ID=1 seq=244 len=32
ICMP echo request from inside:192.168.103.3 to outside:192.168.101.1 ID=1 seq=245 len=32
ICMP echo reply from outside:192.168.101.1 to inside:192.168.103.3 ID=1 seq=245 len=32
ICMP echo request from inside:192.168.103.3 to outside:192.168.101.1 ID=1 seq=246 len=32
ICMP echo reply from outside:192.168.101.1 to inside:192.168.103.3 ID=1 seq=246 len=32
- Jouni -
High ping and packet loss.
How do i fix high ping and packet loss? Also when i ping my own ip, it results in 100.0% packet loss.
Please read this whole message before doing anything.
This procedure is a diagnostic test. It’s unlikely to solve your problem. Don’t be disappointed when you find that nothing has changed after you complete it.
The purpose of the test is to determine whether the problem is caused by third-party software that loads automatically at startup or login, by a peripheral device, by a font conflict, or by corruption of the file system or of certain system caches.
Disconnect all wired peripherals except those needed for the test, and remove all aftermarket expansion cards, if applicable. Start up in safe mode and log in to the account with the problem. You must hold down the shift key twice: once when you turn on the computer, and again when you log in.
Note: If FileVault is enabled, or if a firmware password is set, or if the startup volume is a software RAID, you can’t do this. Ask for further instructions.
Safe mode is much slower to start up and run than normal, with limited graphics performance, and some things won’t work at all, including sound output and Wi-Fi on certain models. The next normal startup may also be somewhat slow.
The login screen appears even if you usually login automatically. You must know your login password in order to log in. If you’ve forgotten the password, you will need to reset it before you begin.
Test while in safe mode. Same problem?
After testing, restart as usual (not in safe mode) and verify that you still have the problem. Post the results of the test. -
Three devices on network: 100% packet loss for my iMac.
I'm having intermittent bouts of 100% packet-loss pinging my router from my iMac, at the same time my iPod touch and neighbor's Windows laptop are surfing wirelessly from the same router.
Sometimes these bouts resolve spontaneously. Otherwise I need to shut down, wait, and restart my iMac to reconnect. The longer the shut down, the longer I can connect it seems.
The problem started a few days ago, after months of trouble-free performance with the same settings. The computer usually stayed up all the time. I hoped in vain today's OSX 10.5.4 and AirPort firmware updates would fix the problem ...
Post 10pm is the most common problem time, 'tho I'm not sure if that's a function of my iMac's uptime (wireless module is cooking?) or some electronic interference firing up near by. Maybe a virus?
Known potential sources of interference have been around for months/years: my old wireless 'phone is a 900MHz model, the next door neighbor's satellite antenna's been up for months. The dodgy power in this old building is hopefully offset by the APC UPS that powers my Mac.
Do I keep fiddling with the AirPort channels, or do I take my computer back to the shop for (another) warranty repair?
Greg./No, I'm not letting my neighbor steal my signal. He's subletting off me, and his access to my network (WPA2 encryption) is part of the "deal". He's a bit of a night-owl, and the late night download limit is pretty big, so it works fine all round.
I used his laptop's (and my iPod Touch's) uninterrupted access (while my iMac's floundering in packet-loss purgatory) as a way of "narrowing down" to the prime suspect: the iMac wireless module.
Greg./
ps sorry about the unnecessary alliteration; I had to substitute "purgatory" because the forum software censors "****" (aich, ee, ell, ell).
Message was edited by: gregreedee
Message was edited by: gregreedee -
Ping Packet Loss across MPLS TE Tunnels
Hello...Please Help,
I have a Single Area OPSF network running across 4 main routers via GigEth Ckts. The OSPF Network is working correctly. I recently implemented MPLS TE creating two Tunnels - One Explicit Path and One Dynamic Path. Two of the Routers also have a T1 Frame Relay Link over which the Explicit path is configured. It is up and woking but I am experiencing 50-60 percent packet loss when pinging between these PE routers. When I force it to the dynamic tunnel it follows the same FR path and experiences the same packet loss. There is no packet loss anywhere else in the network.
This is a Lab environment w/three LAN's Two 7206VXR & Two 3745 routers and Three 3550 Switches - one per LAN
Suggestions?Thank You for your response. The problem may not be an MPLS TE problem.
But would my "path-option" and "priority" being set the same for the Dynamic and Explicit Tunnels cause one tunnel to come up and the other go down and cease to signal. Right now I have one or the other working when viewed w/the "show mpls traffic-eng tunnels" command. If I take one down the other works.
The IPs are 10.1.101.1 & 2/30 respectively for the FR Link. That was a Typo...I have corrected it.
The FR interfaces are not SubInt's as the Serial Interface holds the IP address. These are strictly Point to Point but I have the "IP OSPF Network Broadcast" command set and OSPF going across them.
I have SubInt's set on the Gi0/3 Interface.
Gi0/3.1 & 3.10 for VLAN's 1 & 10
There are not any drops when pinging from Within the routers "Interface to Interface".
But when I ping the LAN Node to Node or from within the Router "if" I do not specify an "interface source" I receive the drops.
The result is the same from either side of the Network on both of the 7206 Routers.
Thanks, Kevin
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