PCA and Balance Sheet Accounts

My client wants to generate Profit Center Financial Statements e.g., Balance Sheet (B/S) and Profit and Loss (P&L) The entire Chart of Accounts was assigned to Profit Centers, and all B/S and P&L accounts can be viewed in the GLPCT table. This table is populated with all of the beginning balances for the B/S accounts. I activated DataSource 0EC_PCA_3 and 0EC_PCA_4. DataSource 0EC_PCA_4 provides beginning balances for a handful of B/S accounts from table GLPCA e.g., A/R, A/P, Inventory, and Fixed Assets. However, I would like to be able to report on all B/S accounts with drill down capability to the line item level. What would be the best business practic for delivering this capability? My client is on R/3

Are you sure you want line item drill down on the sub ledger recon accounts on PCA - ?
Are the month end jobs posting balances per PCA - 1KEK etc..
if you want line item detail (not on the sub ledger accounts - but on the rest of the balance sheet then I suggest..
0EC_PCA_3 (GLPCA) into a line item cube (this will hold line items for all P&L and 99% of balance sheet accoutns - ie not the sub ledgers)
0EC_PCA_1 in delta mode to a cube that is similar to GLPCT
0EC_PCA_4 to a cube that is similar tp GLPCT (this will take the subledger data)
add in the OSS note to calc 0BALANCE properly in the update rules (so you have a balance even thoguh there is no movement inthat period
Multicube the 0EC_PCA_1 and 0EC_PCA_4 cubes - this will then give you a full P&L and Balance sheet at profit centre, functional are, gl accoutn and co code level
Then RRI down to the 0EC_PCA_3 cube if you wish line items (althoug not for the subledgers)
You need to ensure all the GL accoutn sare set up in PCA config in R3 - so everythign posts
You also need to be very very very careful with data taken on in R3 - ie if you do the sugegsted wya of doing history loads for TBs and custoemr open items - then you are not going to get decent profit centre allocations in PCA
And .. this is all dead anyway as the new extended GL functionality in R3 kills all this in ECC5 - as you can allocate "profit centre" or segmentation at posting of invocie time or cash posting and don;t have to wait until month end to run 1KEK etc

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Edited by: Thomas Sablonski on Jul 23, 2008 5:43 PM
Edited by: Thomas Sablonski on Jul 23, 2008 5:46 PM
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