Phone upgrade, data plans ... I am SO confused.

The nearer the end of my Verizon contract drew the more research I've done.  I've searched online, on Verizon's website, talked to family, friends and total strangers.  The more I research the more confused I become. Please allow me to think and wonder outloud in what follows.  Perhaps someone here can help?
Do I want an iphone ... or a Droid ... or the Thunderbolt?  While I have read hundreds of online articles and posts about all of them I remain confused.
My sister insists I will love the iphone.  At home I spend virtually all my free time on my computer.  I am, I admit, a computer addict.  But all of my computers have been PCs.  I know nothing about - nor do I want to learn - about Apple.  My sister's son is a Mac fan and I am sure he teaches his parents about their iphones.  Will I have a problem learning the iphone?  Do I have to have an itunes account just to activate my iphone?
On the surface the Droid looks more appealing to me.  But I know nothing about it.  And I've read a lot of posts here pooping the Android.
Since I live in a 4G area and Verizon seems to be pushing the Thunderbolt, I've taken a look at it.  How does it compare to the iphone or the Droid?  I've read many negative posts on these boards about the 4G network.  (I do take all message board posts with a grain of salt.)  But, I wonder, why would Verizon introduce their 4G network yet offer only ONE phone which works on it?  And, I wonder, will there be an iphone 5 this summer which is 4G? ... should I put off my decision to upgrade until this summer -- or is the introduction of the iphone 5, whenever it may happen, only going to add to my confusion?
Unlimited data plans: I was told (by some source I cannot recall) that an unlimited data plan is $30/month for the 3G network and $50/month for the 4G.  Both reviewing Verizon's website and speaking on the phone with a Verizon representative I am lead to belive the cost is $30 for either unlimited 3G or 4G.  True?  I would/will pay an increase to my bill of $30/month for unlimited data but not $50.  What is the truth about Verizon's 3G vs 4G network?
Lastly: maybe I'm to sensetive.  Maybe I expect too much.  I've been a Verizon customer for ten years.  As my 2 year contract neared it's expiration I truly expected Verizon to send me some email or snail-mail which both thanked me for being a customer and offered me an incentive to continue my service with them.  I have received not one word.  I realize I am one small minnow in a vast sea ... but don't we small minnows make up Verizon's vast sea?
I do hope that at least some of my confusions will be addressed, understood, and answered by you nice folks who monitor these boards.  Please, no techno-babble.  I've read the pcworld and cnet articles.  And I've read many verizon community messages.  If you reply, please do so using simple terms.  I am so easily confused!
Thanks!

Thank you, both, for your easy to understand replies.  Please allow me to ask (thinking out loud) a few more questions.
Against my family's urgings, I've pretty much decided against the iphone.  If I'm going to take the leap from my old, trusty flip phone into this decade's smart phone I want to jump in full-throttle and get a 4G device.  So, first, a few questions about them....
The two that perk my interest -- and which I've been comparing online -- are the Thunderbolt and the DROID Bionic.  The latter I cannot find on Verizon's website.  Has it not been released yet?  They both seem to compare similarly.  Are there any (notable) differences between the two? 
Understanding that new technology (4G -- and the devices which go with it) can be problematic, is one better to wait a few months until "bugs" are worked out -- or is there really no reason to wait?  (I realize that before I can post this message "today's" technology is already outdated!)
Whether rightly or wrongly, I continue to think of a "smart phone" as my Windows based computer: when an upgrade or "fix" is available I download and install a Microsoft update and it's "fixed."  Is the same true with a phone -- that a "fix" is available via a simple software download ... or do some "problems" require a whole new phone?
I was, mistakenly, under the impression Verizon's unlimited data plan was $30 on the 3G network and $50 on the 4G.  I have been corrected and understand it is $30 on both/either.  But I note other carriers charge up to $80!  Question is, is Verizon apt to raise their price in the near future?  Is there any reason to be in a rush to lock in a $30/month unlimited data plan?
Being a miser, I continue to look for the best deal.  As I mentioned in my original post, when the expiration of my current Verizon contract expiration date neared I expected to receive some promotional offers/deals.  I have received none.  My sister (pre-ordered) an iphone -- and received a $100 credit off the price of $199.  When I telephoned Verizon the representative stated she had never heard of any discounts on any phones to anyone!
Another example.... When going to Verizonwireless.com I am offered a price of $250 for the Thunderbolt (with, of course, a 2 year contract).  But when going to another, "outside," company they offer it for $200.  Why?  Specifically, why doesn't Verizon seem to offer the BEST deals/prices to their existing, long-time customers?  I really don't get it.  I have been with Verizon for ten years.  I am going to upgrade to a smartphone (which means my monthly bill will increase by at least $30), and I will probably remain a Verizon customer for life.  So, is it unreasonable to think I might hope for some kind of "deal" that I know others have received?  If not, where do I look for -- and find -- them?
Lastly, is there an option on Verizon's forums to notify me of replies via email?
Thanks again, in advance, for your input.
BTW, how can "iphone," "4G," or "DROID" not be in Verizon's spell checker?!?

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    A number of missed calls later (and of course, you are NOT given a number to reach the customer service people directly) we were told that our upgraded data package was because we wanted the $65 mexico plan... which we clearly did not... as outlined in the Chat conversation that Verizon had received.  So I got lucky and answered the call when customer service rang.  The gal was nice and wanted to know what she needed to do to fix our plan.  I said, all we want is our plan that we got in Jan before we left for Mexico. 
    Next we know - we have the plan BEFORE we got our data package - limited calling, limited text and extra Data.  Seriously, WFT twice.
    Our next bill came and it was $400 - why.... since they went back to our original plan before we got our smartphones, it also deleted our Mexico coverage and we were CHARGED ROAMING WHILE IN MEXICO! 
    I got one last message from customer service and they, honest to God, said "we have reviewed our conversations with you and have made the adjustments you requested.  Your case is now closed - have a nice day"
    Went from 2 wanting $15 plan to a $400 bill.  Lesson learned - always communicate with them via e-mail and let them leave voice messages.  Why - then YOU will have the entire conversation and there's zero way for them to 'F' it up. 

        Hi swan777!
    I'm sorry for any issues with your device since you upgraded the software on your device. Are you able to use VZW data? Wifi? Are you getting any error messages? How long has this been going on?
    Please go to menu/settings/reset/reset network settings
    Thanks,
    ChristinaB_VZW
    Follow us on Twitter @VZWSupport

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