Photoshop color profiles

When saving files in photoshop, should you embed a color profile and if so, which profile is recommended for printing 4 color process printing?

When saving files in photoshop, should you embed a color profile
typically, yes, (saving for the Internet is a different set of rules)
which profile is recommended for printing 4 color process printing?
it depends if you are talking about a final destination space: CMYK
or an inkjet printer workflow that the print utility converts to a specific print/paper/ink profile...

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Monitor/Photoshop/Color profile issue

heyz! yesterday i changed my monitor profile from srgb to prophoto rgb while viewing some images in photoshop. they displayed the same colors after the change, but today i opened photoshop again and with the same images and all the colors were dissaturated. ive done some search and found the probable cause is a ”broken” monitor profile, or one that doesnt match its capabilities. i changed to adobe rgb, reopened photoshop and that image seems to look right, but i think still not how i remember it from yesterday. my question is: is this really the problem and is there a way i can find whats the largest color space my monitor can display without reading its tech book?( cos its long lost)
thanks!
ps: when changing the monitor profile to prophoto i also played with color settings in ps and set it to prophoto/adobe rgb, but that image has an embedded profile and i chose preserve embedded profile when opening it, so i dont think thats the problem.

If there's a question here it's pretty vague. So, here's how it works, in general terms:
A monitor profile is a description of the monitor's native color space. And as such it also defines the gamut of your monitor. But the profile doesn't actually "handle" anything, it doesn't do anything - it's just a description.
Photoshop's color management system is where things are handled. Here, the document color profile is converted, on the fly, into the monitor profile, and these modified RGB values are sent to the monitor. That's all there is to it - a straight and perfectly normal profile conversion. RGB values are remapped to produce the same color.
Any profile can be converted into any other. But any colors in the source color space that would fall outside the target color space, are just clipped to the gamut limit, and they're effectively gone forever. If you have a ProPhoto file displayed on a standard monitor, it's reasonable to assume that a lot of gamut clipping has occurred before it hits the screen, because the monitor color space is a lot smaller.
A standard traditional monitor has a native color space that is very close to sRGB. That's why you can use sRGB as display profile, although of course a calibrator will make one that is much more accurate. This is also why sRGB is the standard for web, because it will display roughly right even without any color management.
Some monitors have a larger color space, and are close to Adobe RGB. These are relatively expensive and are known as wide gamut. If you have such a monitor, it can only be used with full end-to-end color management. In the absence of color management, sRGB material will not display correctly on these monitors, but considerably oversaturated. This is the implication you have to accept when you buy a wide gamut monitor.

Photoshop color profile for Satellite L350 needed

Hi there.
Does anyone know if there is a colorprofile for the L350 to use within photoshop.

Something like that is not available on the Toshiba European driver page for download.
Maybe you will have to search on some 3rd party pages for any details and infos how to set best profile in Photoshop using L350.

Color Profiles HELP

What is the easiest way to 'color profile' an image, which I want to email to a client and let them see it on their screen, as I see it on mine(they could be on a Mac or PC)?
I have calibrated my display, and set my display, printer, photoshop to sRGB!

While you can save Photoshop color profiles, each display and printer must be calibrated independantly, as each device (Even devices of the same make and model), will behave SLIGHTLY differently.
Even printers that had been calibrated, will sometimes need to be recalibrated after user serviceable parts have been replaced (IE Toner, or imaging drum).
Color calibration between devices is very complex, and could be a support industry all to itself.

A general question about JPGs, color profiles and the web.

(Didn't get much help in the PS forum, so I'm gonna try this here.)
I save a website background image in Photoshop with its color profile (in this instance, Adobe RGB 1998).
When I view the image in IE (latest), it looks the same as it did in PS.
When I view it in Firefox (latest), it comes out darker.
I'm guessing this has something to do with one of the two browsers taking the color profile into account, and the other not.
What is everyone's solution to this problem? Should I not be including color profiles with my JPGs? And if that isn't the problem (ie, I should keep doing it), which is the color profile I should be using in RGB?
I keep hopping between Adobe RGB (1998) and sRGB 2.1 and can't decide which one to adopt once and for all.
Thanks.

You are correct. The colors differ from IE to FF because FF and Safari use the color profiles found in your images.
You might like the discussion found on Usability Post: http://www.usabilitypost.com/2008/07/30/photoshop-color-profiles-for-web-images/
I've been using sRGB 2.1 for a few years and have had no major issues with it.

Picture color profile in Lightroom vs Photoshop CS2 editing

Hi all, I hope someone can solve this for me.
When I'm viewing picture in Light room, all my pictures are a bit warmer ( have a yellowish tint to them ) compared to when I view them in Photoshop CS2. The same is true if I view them in other programs. This is true for all my picture file type (jpg, tif or raw). I get the feeling that it's Light room that in the wrong in how it displays the picture and not the other programs. Using the warms tool to make the picture a bit colder, only adds a bluish tint to the image which isn't even close to what it looks like (unedited) in Photoshop.
I get the feeling that Lightroom does something to the picture, or uses some sort of color profile, driver that other programs don't use.
Is there a way of changing this?

>When I purchase these ADOBE products I expect them to JUST WORK!!!!!
Unfortunately, when Microsoft, Dell and others enter the fray it's no longer up to just the Adobe folks. Differences between Photoshop and Lightroom are almost always due to a corrupt monitor profile. Adobe has nothing to do with that.
>I dont wanna have to be worried about corrupt profiles yada yada yada!!!
I just want to be able to do my color correction and exposure corrections in Lightroom export as a High Res Jpeg and then do the remainder of my work in Photoshop and have them both look the same.
If your screen is correctly calibrated that will be the case. Unfortunately if you want to do color sensitive work on a computer with a typical monitor, you have to have a rudimentary understanding of profiles and color management. There is unfortunately no way around it. This is no different from traditional color photography where you have to understand what different film, different filters and different development do to your colors. The terminology is just different.
>How do I fix this and please go through it STEP BY STEP BY STEP!!!!
I am not one for the computer lingo....
OK. I'll assume first that you have no hardware calibrator and that you are on windows:
1. Make sure your Photoshop color settings are set up to respect embedded profiles. See the
first screenshot in this post(ignore everything else as it is no longer relevant in LR 2).
2. Open your monitor's properties panel, click on advanced and go to the color management tab. Delete any profile you see there. This is the culprit. Probably a bad profile got installed in some driver update for your graphics card or your monitor.
3. Restart Lightroom and Photoshop and that's it! You'll have corresponding colors. You are however, cheating yourself as your monitor is completely uncalibrated. This is how 99% of computer users run their monitors.
So here is what you should be doing if you care about your color and matching to print and making sure that others see the same colors. Even though hardly anybody calibrates, the only way to get a good average correspondence is to calibrate your monitor and use color managed apps. This sequence is valid for both macs and PCs
1. Do as above step one and make sure Photoshop is set up correctly and then go out and buy a hardware calibrator (or order online). They can be had for <$100 for pretty good ones. Look for example for Spyder2 and Huey Pro.
2. Calibrate your screen following the instructions from the software
3. Restart Lightroom and Photoshop. Now you'll have identical but correct color.
If you have a mac, you can cheat slightly and use http://www.computer-darkroom.com/colorsync-display/colorsync_1.htm instead of hardware calibration. You cannot expect very good correspondence between monitor and prints though with that method.

Need help with Color Profiles between Photoshop and iPhoto

Hey guys, I'm a photographer and have always used Photoshop in comination with iPhoto. I am having great difficulty lately with color profiles randomly changing within albums of pictures. I need all of my images to be in sRGB, but some somehow end up in Adobe RGB. It seems to happen at random. Apple seems to think it's an Adobe problem. Adobe isn't sure what to do. Anybody aware of any known issues between CS5 and iPhoto using OS 10.8.4 with regard to color profiles and how to fix them?

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I don't know inkscape, but this article seems to indicate that is will support cmyk.
The article also says you need Scribus to then further process the SVG file.
@shaunamm You need to open the SVGin Illustrator, not place it. But I doubt that you will be able to get the effects in Illustrator.

Why Won't Photoshop Sync my Color Profile Settings?

I am using a Lynda.com tutorial for color management by DEKE MCLELLAND and after following his instruction to change my color management settings in BRIDGE AND ILLUSTRATOR to use the color profile ADOBE RGB (1998), I receive this message when switching to Photoshop to check if it has synced as well as the other two programs: "The color settings file contains settings that are not supported by this version of Photoshop running on this system. These unsupported settings will be reset to their default values."
I have tried several times and it simply will not sync
I am using a MAC PRO (late 2007) 10.9.4.

You are the perfect candidate for Adobe Support CHAT. You will speak with someone from India, but they are very smart, and very polite. It may take an hour or so, but every problem of this type I've had, they have been able to solve.
http://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?step=PHSP
Just fill in the stuff until you see the "Contact Us" link, after which you will see the CHAT link.
Be patient, and good luck.

Changing color profile in Lightroom 5 Soft Proofing from ProPhotoRGB to sRGB is not showing any changes, changes in Photoshop CC are dramatic

I am working with the color profile ProPhoto RGB in both Lightroom 5 and Photoshop CC. In preparing for my first Blurb book I have tried to generate pictures in sRGB in Lightroom, using the Soft Proofing feature, but there are no changes at all. Then I transfer the same pictures into Photoshop, change the color profiles and the results are dramatically different.
What can I do to achieve the same results in Lightroom

With an average monitor what you see on-screen is already soft proofed to sRGB (or something very close to it), because that's all the monitor is capable of displaying anyway. So soft proofing to sRGB won't tell you anything. You won't see any difference.
In Photoshop it sounds as if you assign profiles. That's not the way to do it. If you convert correctly you won't see any difference. Same principle as above: there may be clipping in the process, but what you see on screen is already clipped, so no visual on-screen difference.
With a wide gamut monitor soft proofing becomes slightly more useful. But still you won't see any changes occurring outside Adobe RGB. You'll get a better idea by keeping an eye on the histogram. Ideally, all three channels should taper gently off towards the endpoints. If any one or two channels are backed solidly up against the endpoint, on either side, that's gamut clipping.
If Blurb gave you a real profile, one that reflected their actual printing process, you could soft proof to that. But apparently they don't.

Color Profiles visible in a pallete/panel, like in Photoshop?

Is it possible to view your InDesign document's current color profile? I can see the profile in Photoshop (Info Panel) and in Illustrator (Document Info Panel) but not in InDesign. Is there an easy way to view the profiles of a placed document in any of the panels?
Thanks a lot!

To view a placed file's profile in ID's info palette you have to select the placed file with the direct selection tool (don't select the frame holding the file). If the placed art has no profile you will see the ID doc's profile (which is assigned to untagged placed files).
To view the ID doc's profiles you have to choose Edit>Assign Profiles...
You could also view the InDesign document's profiles via scripting. Save this AppleScript in your scripts folder and assign a key command to it:
tell application "Adobe InDesign CS3"
set myDocument to active document
set rgbprof to RGB profile of myDocument
set cmykprof to CMYK profile of myDocument
if rgbprof is "" then
set rgbprof to "None (Color Settings Working RGB Space)"
end if
if cmykprof is "" then
set cmykprof to "None (Color Settings Working CMYK Space)"
end if
display dialog "Documents CMYK profile is: " & return & cmykprof & return & return & "Documents RGB profile is: " & return & rgbprof
end tell

Problems with Epson perfection 4490 color profiles using photoshop cs6

I have some items that I wanted to scan with Adobe RGB color profile, with my Epson perfection 4490 scanner. I am on a mac using mac os 10.7 lion.
I go into the configuration settings in Epson scan & set it to colorsync, & choose Adobe RGB, then I scan. I checked epsons website for current drivers, & I have current drivers.
when I open up my scanned images in photoshop CS5, & CS6, & go to convert to profile, (to check what profile the scanner used), it shows the color source space as sRGB. I go to the file save as, in photoshop, & it only shows sRGB as the color profile to save in.
what is happening? why wont my scanner use Adobe RGB? is there something in photoshop settings I need to adjust? I have never had this problem before.

try downloading the iPHOTO TUTORIAL TEST IMAGES a bit below this link
and dragging the tagged & untagged sets into your various web browsers, image browsers, applications...
the iPhoto download contains a low-resolution reference image in five colorspaces (10 .jpg files, five tagged and five untagged versions of the same image) in sRGB, WhackedRGB, AppleRGB, ProPhotoRGB, AdobeRGB

Embed Color Profile When Saving In Photoshop?

Hi all -
Let's say I am saving a TIFF as a background for a DVDSP 4 menu out of Photoshop. Do I want to have the Embed Color Profile checked or not? How does a make a difference to DVDSP (if it does)? Mine is set to sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Thanks,
Jason

I believe sRGB is the default for most screen-based systems such as DVD studio. You shouldn't notice a significant shift if you stay in this color space in DVD studio. Just make sure it isn't Adobe RGB. This is a very specialized space for advanced Photography for use with hexachrome printing workflows. Monitors and TV's can't reproduce the colors represented in Adobe RGB and it is unwise to make color decisions on such monitors without advanced training on how and why to use wider color spaces such as Adobe RGB. In contrast sRGB is created to be about the same as most monitors ad TV's so what you see is very similar to what will be visible on your target medium.

MOnitor profile and Photoshop Color settings

I have performed the color calibration on my iMAC monitor with Eye One and the profile was loaded into the preferences of the system. The system ofcourse loads it on start up.
Do I have to enter this color profile in any of the Photoship CS4 preferences set ups, like color settings, or will Photoshop automatically assume the monitor profile at startup?
I mean: after calibrating the monitor, do I have to do further adjustments to PS CS4 color settings?
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Why are printer managed color prints different from Photoshop managed color prints using the same color profile?.

I'm using Photoshop 13.0.1, Windows 7, to print images using custom color profiles made with an XRite colorimeter. However, when I print the image using Printer Manages Color, it is not the same as Photoshop Manages the colors and selecting the Canon ICC profile that (Canon 7200 MP2) that is the same as the printer managed settings. Why are these prints not the same if the same color profile is being accessed??

Hi WA Veghe,
>First: DO synchronize, makes sure you have the same profile settings and color mange settings.
I don't seem to be able to synchronize between CS4 (Photoshop) and CS3 (Indesign).
It seems I have to do without synchronizing..
>I do not seem to find HOW you are diplaying images on you screen: with Soft proofing?
What happens if you soft proof in Photoshop and InDesign on screen: View > Proof colors. Do you proof with the same profiles, both simulate paper and black on?
I can simulate Proof Colors (working CMYK), but not simulate Paper, both in Indesign and Photoshop.
Problem is: SAME settings in Photoshop and Indesign BUT the image displayed in Photoshop is brighter and more saturated.
So which image should I correct after?
thanks for all help
/L

Where does Photoshop CS5 pull custom color profiles from?

Photoshop CS5 is not seeing my new custom color profiles for my scanner when i try to "Assign profile" or "Convert profile". it sees my old profiles that I used in CS4. i have made sure to copy the profiles the following directories:
/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/
/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/
myuseraccount/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/
where else does CS5 pull color profiles from? By the way, those old color profiles DO NOT exist in the above directories. your help is greatly appreciated.
I am running Photoshop CS5 12.0.1 x32 on mac os x 10.6.4.

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…do you know of anyway to reconcile these names because Apple does not.
In all honesty, I've never had occasion to think about any such "reconciliation". I've never re-named a profile's file name in the Finder, and in the few cases where I've run into a discrepancy there, I just make it a point to remember the internal name and forget about the other one.
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