Place sequence markers during multicam edit?

Hello all,
I'm looking to place sequence markers on the fly as I'm performing a multicam edit using a keyboard shortcut, but I can't figure out how to do so. I'm editing a college lecture, so when the speaker says "next slide" while I'm switching cameras in multicam mode, I can place a sequence marker at the point where the PowerPoint slide should start and end. It would make it much easier later when I have to go back and drop in the slides.
Thanks.
Mike Tomei

Thanks for the link, Todd. I just submitted a feature request.
shooternz: yes, I'm able to place the markers in the main timeline window containing the multicam enabled edit, but only after switching from the multicam window to the timeline window. My goal is to place the markers on the sequence while I'm in the multicam window switching between my camera shots. Trying to keep a good flow going, rather than have to stop switching cameras, click on the timeline window, place a marker, then get the multicam camera switching started again. It would be great to just make a real time pass switching cameras and placing markers, then just have to go back and drop in slides at my marked points.
Mike

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