PM8M-V and AGP card

first excuse my very bad english
I bought a PM8M-V mothercard
I want to add an AGP card
I have to modify in the BIOS to desactivate integrated vga card and activate AGP card but I don't know what to do in the bios parameters
because I put agp card and the system reboot always conflict driver I suppose
Help me please ...

It could be a driver problem. It could be something else.
Try entering SafeMode. Uninstall the driver for the onboard card. Uninstall the driver for the AGP card. Enter DeviceManager, and remove all - yes, all - graphics cards. Reboot.
Without installing the driver for the AGP card, do you still have reboots?

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<http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=CC1BA768&nplm= M8661>
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<http://www.welovemacs.com/agpg5vica.html>
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Sorry to post this if this topic has been addressed before but the search feature on this forum is down..."page can not be displayed."
Where can I find a list of AGP cards(1.5v) that would work on my MS-6545 mobo Intel 850E.
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vavadie,
The difference in performance between running a Vid Card a 4X for 8X is about 3%, or nothing to the naked eye. The Bandwidth for 4X is now just barely being used up, which is why there is no change in performance.
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It's harder for those of us with older hardware because all the new recommendations are useless to us. Especially when you use Linux as it seems everything is talking about directX and Vista or Windows 7 which mean nothing to me.
AGP 8x
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1920 x 1080 resolution LCD (dvi or hdmi)
dual head would be a plus for later but not vital.
Not a gamer at all.
Needs to work well with Linux, of course.
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Price < $70 on Amazon or Newegg (possibly more if it's really worth it)
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Last edited by davidm (2010-06-19 17:41:56)

Someone asked me for an update via email so I just realized that I forgot to post as I promised. It's working out pretty good. I can play 1080p h264 movies using mplayer with only about 10-30% use of my 3.0 P4 HT CPU using VDPAU. I wasn't able to get it (x.264 GPU decoding) to work with vlc or the system ffmpeg though. At least when I set this up many months ago. So if anyone is just looking to be able to play 1080p h264 videos I definitely would give a VDPAU capable PCI card a shot if you have no other viable choices for your old hardware. Using mplayer with VDPAU properly configured I don't experience any stuttering at all on my old hardware, believe it or not.
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I have a project due on monday
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