Possible fix for X-Fi MIDI effects

I think I may have found a solution (somewhat) for those of you who haven't been able to get much reverb or chorus on MIDI instruments. I believe part of the problem lies in the default SoundFont settings for "reverbEffectSend" and "chorusEffectSend". By default, a SoundFont bank only allows controllers 91 and 93 to access 20% of the total effect available. This may be half of what is causing the problem. You didn't notice this on earlier Sound Blaster cards is because the maximum reverb level in the EAX control panel was EXTREMELY wet (you can test this on Live!/Audigy by allowing the reverb to affect the WAVE output as well--the wave output will be more wet than you will be able to get your SoundFont files).
Unfortunately, I don't have an X-Fi to test this out on, so I will need some willing guinea pigs. If you aren't adept at editing your own SoundFonts, try downloading the latest version of GeneralUser GS (version 1.4) from my website athttp://www.sccmusic.250x.com/sfont/genuser. Version 1.4 is adjusted to allow 100% of the reverb and chorus effect instead of the default 20%. Try it and see if you can get some decent wetness.
Here is a nice, wet MIDI for you to try with it as well: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~coll0360/musi...march_in_d.mid
Now, for those comfortable working in Vienna 2.3 (must be at least version 1.31.0), try the following:
Find a SoundFont that will be your guinea pig (the simpler, the better). Expand the "Instrument Pool". Next, expand the first instrument you see. If the instrument has only one sample, right-click on it and select "Modulator Properties". If the instrument has more than one sample, create a "Global Zone" if one doesn't already exist, and then right-click on "Global Zone" and select "Modulator Properties"
Once in the modulator properties window, scroll down until you see:
MIDI CC91 reverbEffectSend <None>
Click on that entry and you should see the value under "Amount" listed as "200". This is (I believe) only 20%. Change that value to "1000" and press Enter on your keyboard. The MIDI CC 91 entry should now show up in red. Repeat the same adjustment for:
MIDI CC93 chorusEffectSend <None>
and close the modulator properties window.
Repeat this step for each instrument in the bank and you should be able to get a much nicer reverb and chorus effect with MIDI.
Please let me know how this works out
-~=Chris Collins

Hey Chris.
I think this is part of the problem with the X-Fi cards.
I started playing different projects and found that certain soundfonts get good reverb and chorus. These fonts are ones I created myself and had set the reverb and chorus levels really high from the beggining. So your solution seems it will correct that part of the problem.
But I still have a problem with certain envelope controller sends which the X-Fi card isn't responding to at all. Particularly, certain projects I have which did a lot of envelope changes throughout the song using the VDW soundfont. Now they don't respond at all and just sound flat through the whole song, which sucks
Any ideas?
Thanks.
P.S. It is going to be a real drag to have to set the reverb and chorus levels high on all my soundfonts!!!
Message Edited by perihelion54 on 12-01-2005 07:18 PM

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