Possible to run soa suite without admin server?

Hi,
I'm wondering if it is possible to run the SOA components on a managed server without the admin server running. I intended to shutdown the admin server in production but when I do that I get errors in my (managed) soa server. I believe this was possible previously. Why does it need the admin server?
version is 10.3.3

Hi,
do you mean in weblogic domain without running admin server you were able to run managed(soa) servers???
Without admin server how Managed servers gets start?
Though there is a concept in weblogic server called MSI mode,in that case managed servers can be running withut admin server, but very first time you have to start Admin server followed by Managed servers.
Thanks,
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