Posterize Time VS Preseve Frame Rate When nested

Hello Every one.
When Nesting Two Compositions with different Frame Rates, I heard Posterize Time, Is a old Effect that many people use it. But It can cause Lots of problems.
So, Is It better Inside Composition Settings- Advanced: To Check Preserve frame rate when nested or in render queue ?
Thank You.

If you have to preserve the frame rate, I would just choose to preserve the frame rate. However, there are many times when you don't even need to preserve the frame rate. So, if you don't actually need to preserve it, don't.

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Tip#2 does not seem to make any difference. The stage always reports the same frame rate of 24.
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