Practical Usage/Role of KB/KM (Credit Management) in Sales & DeliveryOrder
Hi
I know that KM /KB are included in Sales Order / Delivery Header Partner Functions .
Want to know the PRACTICAL USAGE for eg Suppose Order is Created for Amt Rs 10000, what role KB /KM which r included in order partner function will play ( mail/ etc )
The standard system contains the partner functions credit representative (KB) and credit manager (KM) for credit processing. Both partner functions are allocated to partner type "PE". The credit manager is one level higher than the credit representative. Enter these partner functions in the partner determination procedures of the sales document header and the delivery header so that the partners involved in credit processing can be allocated and identified. Assign value "A" to the partner functions in the Access field.
Rohit
Dear Mr. Gauravjit,
Thank you for your valuable reply.
At the Extra-Output-Header-edit-goto-det analysis ,system give message as KRML o/p is not generated since Requirement 009 is not being fulfilled. But we checked the VBUK-CMGST = B is satisfied. Still the o/p not generated!
Also , in VV11 we maintained the Cond Records. Still the o/p is not coming.
The output is coming in Devlopment , but in Quality the output is not coming.
Can anybody please help !
P.S. I am colleague of Mr. Sunil Kumar, and reply on behalf of him.
With Best Regards,
Kaustuv
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Want to know the PRACTICAL USAGE for eg Suppose Order is Created for Amt Rs 10000, what role KB /KM which r included in order partner function will play ( mail/ etc ) and how will it be used in SAP
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Application Implementation: Version : 12.0.0
Copyright (c) 1979, 1999, Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
AZR12LOADER module: iSetup R12 Loader
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Current system time is 09-OCT-2013 03:15:18
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Concurrent Request Parameters
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DBC_FILE_NAME=DEVF.dbc
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Load Sequence 1
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Type: BC4J
Path: oracle.apps.ar.ispeed.creditmgt.scores.server.ScoresAM
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Transaction committed.
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Status: WARNING
Concurrent program completed.
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Executing request completion options...
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Concurrent request completed
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Thanks for the update.
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Credit management and Terms of Payment
Hi
Can anybody throw some light on the role of Terms of Payment in .Credit Management.
Thanks in advance
RaviDear sankar ravi,
Credit management
Purpose
Outstanding or uncollectible receivables can spoil the success of the company greatly. Credit Management enables you to minimize the credit risk yourself by specifying a specific credit limit for your customers. Thus you can take the financial pulse of a customer or group of customers, identify early warning signs, and enhance your credit-related decision-making. This is particularly useful if your customers are in financially unstable industries or companies, or if you conduct business with countries that are politically unstable or that employ a restrictive exchange rate policy.
Integration
If you are using the Accounts Receivable (FI-AR) component to manage your accounting and an external system for sales processing, Credit Management enables you to issue a credit limit for each customer. Every time you post an invoice (created in FI-AR), the system then checks whether the invoice amount exceeds the credit limit. Information functions such as the sales summary or early warning list help you to monitor the customers credit situation.
If you are using both the Accounts Receivable (FI-AR) component to manage your accounting and the Sales and Distribution (SD) component for sales processing, you can also use Credit Management to issue credit limits for your customers. You can make settings in Customizing to decide the scope of the check and at what stage in the process (for example, order entry, delivery or goods issue) a credit limit should take place. General information functions are also available for use with credit checks.
Features
If you are using both the SD and FI-AR components, Credit Management includes the following features:
Depending on your credit management needs, you can specify your own automatic credit checks based on a variety of criteria. You can also specify at which critical points in the sales and distribution cycle (for example, order entry, delivery, goods issue) the system carries out these checks.
During order processing, the credit representative automatically receives information about a customers critical credit situation.
Critical credit situations can also be automatically communicated to credit management personnel through internal electronic mail.
Your credit representatives are in a position to review the credit situation of a customer quickly and accurately and, according to your credit policy, decide whether or not to extend credit.
You can also work with Credit Management in distributed systems; for example if you were using centralized Financial Accounting and decentralized SD on several sales computers.
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Do award points if you found them useful.
Regards,
Rakesh
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