Pre-test,post-test in project

Hi,
I try to create CAI by captivate3. The project contain
   1. 10 items pre-test
   2. Lesson
   3. 10 items post-test
   My problem is I cannot separate in post-test from the pre-test. That is when I insert 10 items multiple choice post-test after lesson, Quiz result slide will automatically after the post - test slide and then make it 20 items.
   I want to separate the pre-test's quiz result slide from the post-test's.
   How can I operate it?
              Thanks a lot

Hi Lilybiri
I'm Thai. I use cp4. I'm not sure you understand my poor English or not?
Anyway, I followed your advise to make 3 files as follows:
      First --> pre-test + Lesson
     Second --> post- test
     Third --> Main menu
     For the main menu, I made a button to link to pre-test and post-test by choosing
"open url or file" I can preview this in my computer but I can't preview the link (pre-test and post-test) in
another computer.
     Could you provide me software simulation step by step?
                                 Thank you

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Pre and Post test Questions

I have a project that requires a pre-test, post-test and
knowledge reviews throughout the course. I have created 10 question
slides (I did not use question pools). I am having two issues occur
within the course. First I do not want to track or score the
pre-test questions or the questions embedded within the course what
I will refer to as Knowledge reviews.
I do want the user to go through and receive feedback on each
question answered incorrectly but I do not want a score to be
collected/tracked or tallied as part of the sum total for the
course. The post-test questions need to be the only tracked/scored
questions with that value being submitted to the LMS.
Currently all the questions are being tallied in the course.
(i.e test results show 30 questions with a score when there should
only be 10). What is the best way to include mutiple questions
within my course (as pre-test and Knowledge reviews) but not have a
score tracked until the user takes a post test.
To correct this should I change the pre-test and knowledge
reviews to a survey type question? Or should I leave the question
as graded but set the point value to 0. I inially left the pre-test
and knowldge reviews as graded questions but I deselected Report
Answers under the reporting tab thinking this would prevent the
passing of a score, which is not the case.
If anyone can offer some advice or point me to some
documentaiton that discusses this I would greatly appreciate any
help.
The second issue I have is with the progress indicator within
the course. Is there a way to revmove this from the quesiton pages.
My client does not want to see this indicator. The current work
around I am using is to reduce the font size of the indicator to
5pt, setting the font color to match my background and then
positioning the indicator in a set loation on the page. While this
workaround works I would like to remove it in total if possible.
Thanks in advance,

The first part sounds very weird. I just made a project which
included knowledge checks in the middle of the course and they are
not tracked in the final test. I used Graded questions in my course
and I initially set the score per question to 0 points. After I
found out that they were counted in the question total I removed
the reporting for each of the questions. Now the points are not
being counted and also the questions are not being counted in the
final assesment - I just have the 6 questions out of 6 in the
post-test even though I have 4 knowledge checks inside the course
it self.
Try and click F9 to open up the advanced interaction panel
and make sure that the answers are not being reported. I know it's
obvious, but sometimes Captivate does some weird things.
As for your second question regarding the progress indicator
you can remove that by going to Quiz - Quiz Preferences - Settings
and then unchecking the box "Show Progress".
Best regards,
Michael

Can we send pre-test score (Pre-test question slide) and post test score (Question slide) both in lms from captivate?

can we send pre-test score (Pre-test question slide) and post test score (Question slide) both in lms from captivate?

Pretest score normally is not sent to the LMS. However it is stored in a system variable, you could use JS to send it.

How can I skip/pass a lesson when the pre-test is passed?

I'm creating a course with an overview and 3 lessons. Each is its own CP file (Captivate 6).
This course will be hosted in our LMS, where I will require each lesson to be taken/passed.
Lesson 1 is introductory/background material about my topic, and my users may or may not have had exposure to this information already. If they know the info, there's no need for them to take this lesson.
I have added a pre-test to the lesson, that, if failed, forces the user to go through the lesson content and a graded quiz at the end. The score is reported to the LMS and all is well.
If the user passes the pre-test, s/he is jumped to a congrats slide and instructed to exit the lesson. (No need to take the graded quiz - the questions are the same, and they've already "passed.")
My question: How do I report a PASS for the lesson if the user doesn't take the graded quiz? I don't need to report any particular score.
Thanks for any help you can offer!

Lieve, I'd LOVE to see your blog post about this topic - especially since you always include examples. =)
Request: I need help with reporting.
Here's my project's Branch View (click to view larger):
I've done as you suggested as far as I know. The navigation works perfectly, but when it comes to reporting, I'm not seeing what I expect/want.
What I want:
For the user to be able to skip the pre-test (the branching image shows this)If the user passes the pre-test, can exit the course with a Complete/Pass
For the user to have X number of chances at the test. After the user a) passes or b) uses up X chances and still fails, I want to report back to my LMS (I'm testing in scormcloud right now, but will be using HealthStream) both completion AND pass or fail.
What I've got:
The user CAN skip the pre-test (the branching works, anyway)
I can get Captivate to report Complete/Unknown or Complete/Pass (sometimes, even when the user fails the graded quiz), or Incomplete/Unknown.

Way to Capture Pre-Test Score?

Hi all -
We're using OLM 11.5.10j and want to have a pre-test that, if passed, exempts you from needing to complete the course with which it's associated, and would also mark the overall course as complete. If the learner doesn't pass the pre-test, they would have to take the course + post-test. We also want to capture the pre-test and post-test score separately, so that we know what the score on the pre-test was and, if applicable, the score on the post-test.
We thought about using two separate "courses" - pre-test, and course+post-test - as part of a Learning Path. That way, we could set the Learning Path to have "at least one component mandatory" and set a the pre-test as a mandatory pre-req on the course+post-test. However, that's a little clunky and really isn't a Learning Path.
We've looked into other AICC-spec fields that are available in OLM to which the learning object would post additional values to show pre-test/post-test score, then report on those spare fields to determine the respective scores. However, we ran into issues understanding what fields were available in OLM for the LO to post to.
Any suggestions on how to implement this? Thanks!

Hello Lee
You can use DFF attributes in OTA_DELEGATE_BOOKINGS table to store Pre-Test Score and Post-Test Score. Build a class just like any other class......
Class has 3 Main sections
1. Pre-Test Section
2. Class
3. Test
If the employee passes the Pre-Test Section...Employee can either continue to take the class or else give the credit to employee for the entire class. (Storing the Pre-test Score in one of the attribute is similar to the way we change the date_status_changed field in OTA_DELEGATE_BOOKINGS table.)
If employee doesnt clear the pre-test section then save the pre-test-score using package/plsql api to store in DFF attributes of OTA_DELEGATE_BOOKINGS table and continue...rest is the normal process as in other anyother class....
Hope this helps.....
I am also expecting some one to give a nice solution.
Thanks,
Srujan

Can I have multiple pre tests and a final test?

Hi,
I want to create unit whereby I have small pre-tests (5) to check knowledge, they must get answer ciorrect to continue. Then i want to create a final test at the end of the project.
Is this posisble or do i need to have different projects?
Many thanks
FS

I think trying to get feedback to work with Survey Questions using Advanced Actions would be a lot more trouble than it's worth.
Also, using Pretest questions is not the answer because they're very limiting in other ways. They MUST all be at the beginning of the project BEFORE the main quiz, and they disable the playbar for the entire module. (This is by design.) The way Pretests currently work is not usually what authors are looking for.
If setting ordinary quiz question slides to zero points and deselecting the option to Include in Quiz is NOT enough for you, then I suggest you resort to creating your own 'question' slides via other methods such as building them from default interactive objects available in Captivate. You can use widgets or buttons or Smart Shapes or Text Entry boxes to replicate most of the other question types.

Setting a Conditional Action for Pre-Test questions: Skipping Content Slides

OK boys and girls, let's see if this is even possible within one course SCO, or if this a multi-SCO solution (which means I'm toast, because we don't have the multi-SCO aggregator)?
I want to set up a prescriptive pre-test. In my ideal world, answers to each individual question would either enable or disable the content slides connected to the question. If the user passes the pre-test, they could opt to skip the prescriptive stuff and complete the course. If the user fails the pretest, they would have to view the enabled content.
Is this even possible in a single SCO world?
Justenuf

Jim belongs in that pantheon of good guys as well, so many here have pointed me in the right direction and helped me move forward with the capabilities of this software. And, in that spirit - here's my work around for the pretest/post test in a SCORM 1.2 environment:
Created an entrance slide that allows opting totake the pretest or not - but only allows you to take it once.
Created one test (take off the question x of x widget) split it and slide the content in between it. In this case, 10 questions with 5 in each set.
Titled the first set of questions as a PreTest and the second set as a Post Test.
Set my passing score at 4 correct. (the user only needs to get 4 out 5 on either set correct to pass - and I'm setting up an action that only allows the user to see the questions they missed if they fail the pretest.)
Created variables for each "pretest" question and set them at 0. Created on Enter advanced actions on each slide following a question that toggled the variable to 1 if the question was answered correctly if "CpQuizInfoLastSlidepointScored is equal to 1" then "Assign Question<x> with 1"
Created an On Enter advanced action for each content area slide "Skip #" that allowed prescription:
"If Question # is equal to 1 or cpQuizInfoPassFail is equal to 1, then Go to Next Slide"
Only the content connected to the missed questions in the pretest is seen.
Copied the same On Enter advanced action the Post test questions and renamed it "SkipPost #" that allowed prescription:
"If Question # is equal to 1 or cpQuizInfoPassFail is equal to 1, then Go to Next Slide"
Only the questions related to the reviewed content are seen
The sum total of these activities is the following -
The user can choose to take the pretest and complete the course by gettiong 4 or 5 questions correct and jump to the exit page.
     If the user takes the pretest and scores lower than 80%, the content for the missed questions is viewed and the user must answer the questions regarding
     that content. The user passes the course when he/she answers the fourth question correctly.
The user can choose to view the content, take the post test and pass the course by answering 4 of 5 correctly.
it's running right in preview, in web browser preview and on my LMS previewer, with one navigation error.
      the error: after failing the pretest, taking the prescribed content and anse wering the questions correctly, the course occasionally jumps to the results page
     and s displays a failure message, then freezes in place. it does NOT happen each time, which is why I am cy urrently scurrying back to my happy place to dwell
     on this mystery awhile.
Justenuf

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In one of the Developer Forum articles it mentions the
ability to use pre-tests in Captivate.
There is no documentation in HELP or in Knowledgebase on how
to assign questions to a pre-test as opposed to a post-test, to
give full credit for & ability to by-pass content w/ all
correct answers in a pre-test.
And... if any incorrect pre-test answers, to send learner
through content & post-test, but in this case, only score user
on answers in post-test, not all questions in course... Any
suggestions? Thanks....

You may be thinking that pre-testing is an actual feature of
the product, which is not the case.
Captivate only knows tests... its up to you to design them to
be useful as a pre-test or a post-test. How you do this is
determined by the delivery environment your content will be
accessed from and an understanding of Captivate's reporting
abilities.
For example, you mentioned that you want to "give full
credit", which implies that you're doing centralized reporting in
some way. The type of reporting you're doing will determine how you
create your course.
If you're using an LMS via the SCORM standard, all navigation
and pass/fail logic must reside in the LMS, so you just build your
pre-test and make the LMS use the score from that determine whether
the user passes the overall course. If they don't pass, make them
take everything, if they do pass, give them credit for the whole
thing.
If your particular LMS doesn't let you do that and you can't
find a way to trick the LMS into doing what you want (say, by
assigning much higher score values to the questions in the pre-test
to artificially give the user a score high enough to pass the
entire course), then you may be out of luck. That's the nature of
SCORM, and has nothing to do with Captivate.
Bottom line, there's no documentation because Captivate is
not intended to fit into any particular system or scheme. It's
merely a tool that lets you create building blocks that you can
(hopefully) slot into a separate solution using a "standards-based"
interface, such as AICC/SCORM, or one of the other options listed
in the Quiz Manager.
The reality is that each deployment environment, especially
the "standards-based" ones, have their own quirks and deployment
requirements, so how you make Captivate work in your particular
environment is unfortunately left up to you. That's just the nature
of the game.

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Winfried

Hello Winfried,
Spent a couple of hours yesterday to work out a proposition. Must confess that I realized it in CP5, mostly to save some time with the Advanced Actions but it could be done in CP4 too. Beware: I did not bother a lot about the layout, graphics, just tried to find a workflow that will achieve your goal only using Captivate (no widgets, no to be written Flash-SWF's) within a reasonable amount of time. There is quite a lot of copy/paste possible, repetitive tasks that are a bit monotonous, sorry about it, and some discipline is necessary.
To start with: I made some choices to simplfy.
You showed me a screenshot with buttons to click on (little bit like the Likert Question slide) but I have preferred to have the user introduce a number from 1 to 6, which means you'll need a legend to explain on each page. If you really want the six buttons later on, you should look for a widget or a Flash SWF that returns a value = clicked button (1 to 6). To achieve this in Cp alone would be a tremendous work. You should have to take into account that a user can change his mind and click on another button... With my system (typing a number) this is no issue.
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v_1 v_2 .... v_13.
Same user variables will be used on the next question slide (if you have less questions/slide you'll need less user vars of this kind).
TEB is validated for the values 1 up till 6. If another number is entered the Failure Caption shows up.
The blue Text Captino (Please, answer all...) is initially hidden when entering the slide (action for On Enter slide).
Each Submit button triggers an Advanced action (labeled first AddGroup1) on success (slightly different, you'll need 13 of then, but copy can limit the work), with variables:
created one variable 'v_counter' to store the number of correct answers on the slide, will be used to check if all questions have been answered; this counter is set to the value 0 on entering the slide
created 13 group variables v_G1 v_G2.... v_G13 to store the total score per group
labeled actions like AddGroup1:
increments counter with 1
adds value stored in v_1 to the variable v_G1
because playhead shouldn't move on the Timeline, set the system var rdcmndGotoFrame = rdInfoCurrentFrame
in the 12 copies of this action, only second action has to be changed
Next button allows the user to go to the next slide, but triggers another advanced action, that I labeled TestCompleteSlide1. You'll need a slightly different action for each Question slide, but again copy does most of the work. This action:
checks if the variable counter is different from 13
if it is different:
the blue Text Caption is showed to insist on answering all the questions (this is what had to be changed on copy, because each text caption has its proper ID, blue Text Caption on second question slide has a different ID from that on first)
rdcmndGotoFrame = rdInfoCurrentFrame - 2 to put back the playhead
if it is 13, jump to next slide
Last slide is TOC: The modules to be taken will be marked with a green circle in this screenshot and get a click box over the name and the green circle. Those not to be taken will be marked with a red triangle and not have a click box. You'll have to configure the click boxes to open the proper module. Initially all click boxes are there but invisible. Same for all green circles and red triangles. They will get visible based on checking the value of the grouping variables v_G1 v_G2.... v_G13. Just a screenshot here, if you confirm that you want to try my proposition, will explain further. This was rather easy in CP5, will not be in CP4, that is why I didn't yet work it out in CP4:
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3) MDM 5.5 data distribution using SAP XI -
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https://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/e5/15a0380d134f6fe10000009b38f8cf/content.htm
/people/sap.india5/blog/2005/12/06/xi-ccms-alert-monitoring-overview-and-features
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/11/24/xi-configuring-ccms-monitoring-for-xi-part-i
Regards,
Abhy
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Please, I am in a very big problem I designed the project by Adobe director And you test the software on the computers on Windows and works with high quality When I tested the project on Apple Macintosh operating system, Li appeared a number of problems

Please, I am in a very big problem
I designed the project by Adobe director
And you test the software on the computers on Windows and works with high quality
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The project works on some devices and others show me messages mistakes and why chasm different operating system version
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"biosegnatures" can't be opened becouse it 's from undefined developer "
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Welcome to the Support Communities.
m.raslan wrote:
I tested the project on Apple Macintosh operating system
Click on the  menu at top left of your screen, choose About This Mac and, in the panel that appears, note the Version no. in the form 10.n.n. Then update your product list so we can see what version of OS X you're running on the Mac — see this tutorial:
Update your product list
m.raslan wrote:
"biosegnatures" can't be opened becouse it 's from undefined developer "
This Apple doc may help:
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m.raslan wrote:
shokwave player error
Is Shockwave Player installed?...
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
...If not, get it here:
http://get.adobe.com/shockwave/

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