Premiere cc 2014 renders not frame accurate?

I'm rendering some sequences from cc 2014 (the latest October release) all are exactly 20:00:00 long, with out set on that frame exactly. However if I bring the exports into after effects, some of them are a frame longer or shorter than they should be.
Any suggestions what might be going on? All sequences are progressive and 25 fps.

Hi w00lf!
A common issue is that many people do not know to use caution when marking an Out with the Premiere Pro playhead. The physical makeup of the playhead includes both the head and tail of a single frame. Placing the playhead on a desired out point and then marking Out will have the effect of marking Out one frame too late. To get the proper duration you are expecting, always move left one frame - then mark Out.
If you zoom in to the playhead, you can see what I mean. In the screenshot, you can see the front edge of the playhead is on the cut. Marking In here is no problem. If you mark Out with the playhead (as shown), you are marking Out at the back end of the playhead, one frame too late and one frame in to the adjacent clip. When marking durations, you have to be very mindful of this behavior.
Many editors make this mistake for quite some time before realizing the issue at hand. When I taught editing in various trade schools here in CA, I made sure all my students knew about this quirk.
Thanks,
Kevin

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