Problems with k8n neo2

i have just got my self a msi K8N NEO2, amd 3500 (clawhammer). every thing started ok but since i updated to the lastest bois my graphics card keeps crashing on all my games. any ideas? My graphics card is ati 9600pro with the lastest driver.

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Okay
Syar2003 had a post where he said that 9600pro should have a 1.6 voltage....
Think this is it
K8N Neo AMD 64 3000+ ATI Radeon 9600xt trouble
Don't know if this may help K8N Neo Platinum & Sapphire Radeon 9600
A64 3200+/K8N Neo Platinum Freezes in Games - Syar2003
luck

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Weird start up problem with K8N Neo2

Hello all,
I'm hoping SOMEONE can help me with a very annoying and very perplexing problem with my Neo2. I've read quite a few posts and can't seem to find anything similar to my problem.
Ever since the first time I booted my setup I've gotten this problem where when I power up my PC all the fans start up and the HD starts to spin up as well, but then it makes this click, spins down, then spins back up, clicks, spins down... and well, you get the picture. It keeps doing this until I power off the PC.
The first time this happened I thought the HD had died, especially since I heard a lot of people where having sudden deaths of their Deskstars. So I hooked up another HD I had lying around, but, same problem. So at least I knew the HD was not the problem, and here I was starting to think about how an excellent excuse this was to get a new WD Raptor, LOL!
After fiddling around with the connectors, the cables, the CPU and the memory, I made this last ditch effort to clear the CMOS. Well, low and behold, the damn thing booted up fine. I thought, oh well, sometimes the most obvious solutions are the ones that you never think about. So I install everything and turn it off. Next morning I wake up, turn on the PC, and the hard drive spins up, clicks, spins down, spins back up, clicks and I start to cry.
Well, for the past few days, whenever I want to use my PC I have to clear the CMOS to get it to boot. Stangely enough it works just fine if I don't power it down and after some grueling Doom 3 sessions.
Im thinking it might be a bad CMOS battery, but then it would still boot and it would just loose the settings, right? Or maybe I have a bad CMOS? Or is the board just plain defective?
I'll appreciate any help and insight you guys can give.

Sounds like you are shorted out on a standoff or something. You may want to pull the motherboard and start fresh. Here is some good reading material at this point;
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Problem with K8N Neo2

Hello,
I am having problems with my new MB. I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum ms-7025 and when I go into BIOS it will lock up when I enter the HT Frequency area. I have Crucial Ballistix Memory and am trying to get more than 200fsb.
I have built several other systems and haven't had problems with overclocking before.
I am using a SATA in SATA 1, with an ATI Radeon 9500, 1 gig of Crucial Ballistix memory, an Antec slk 3700bke with 350 watt P/S.

Thanks,
Between this and moving my SATA to 3 I was able to get the system to 233fsb and it posts at 260 fsb.
It locks up during Memtest86 at 260. I'm not sure if it's PowerSupply or Heat, so next on my list of things to do is a new 500+ watt PS and replacing the AMD heatsink.

Dual DDR problem with K8N Neo2 Platinium.

Hi all,
I have a new K8N Neo2 Platinium since last week. My configuration is : AMD 64 Venice 3000+, 2 x 256 MB Kingston Value RAM (KVR400X64C25/256) 160GB Seagate SATA, MSI FX5700 VTD 256MB etc...
The problem is I cannot work them in dual DDR mode! But they works in single mode very good. I know that my RAM pairs are not in vendor list! But I love my RAMs..They are CL2.5 and I think they are valuable...
So what can I do?

Deathstalker , lots of value kinston ram is qualified .
Just take a look at NF4 testreport:
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/7125/memory.pdf
And what you say about value ram vs non jedec spec OC ram is often quite the opposite as valueram follows the jedec spec
and is a more "hit" than miss with most motherboards contra what OC ram is .
Dxvideo , make sure you use memory slot 1+2 as said, also try booting to bios with one stick and save cas as 3.0
then install second module . Se if it helps with looser cas value .They also follow jedec SSTL 2.5v standard
but is verified by vendor -/+ 0.25v so you can also set voltage manually to 2.6v (or more) to help them out .
If it worked in dual chl on NF2 doesn't neccesary mean they will on A64 system as this memory controller is more picky than
the external memory controller on NF2 boards.

Problem with K8N neo2 plat. and ram

Hello everyone
Recently I had 2*512mo of PC3200 ( double side ), they hold all approximately 235mhz has 2.5/3/3/8 1T (tested separately)
But, when I puts them into dual they are stable under memtest always with 235 2.5/3/3/8 1T but are unstable under Windows, under xp they are stable until 207mhz maximum whereas they hold much higher under memtest
If I want to be stable A 235mhz under Windows it is necessary that I put them in 2T but y' has an enormous loss of perf
I tested different bios (1.37mod, 1.4 official, 1.41mod, 1.5 official, 1.8r3mod, 1.9 official and 1.B4mod) and always the same problem I also tested on port 1 and 3 (near to the CPU) and 2 and 4 but there it is still worse
Here if you have suggestion they are the welcomes
In advance thank you
Config
K8N neo2 platinium
Winchester 3200+
2*512mo chip infinéon
PS: sorry for my bad english

Hello, thanks for your answer
My ram is Apacer value here but in ship infineon
My power supply is a LC power 550w
My video card is an ATI 9600xt sapphire
The HTT/LDT is of 3x for a FSB of 235mhz ( ram synchro )
I have also tested desynchronized ram to 166 ( cpu stable: 283*8.5, ram: 218mhz ) but I have always this problem
Thanks

Occasional Boot up problems, with K8N Neo2 Plat.

Hey everyone,
I've had this setup for a couple weeks now and I'm still experiencing random problems booting up. I thought I had concluded that it was fast writes issue, however the other day it did it again.
What happens is while loading winxp.. right before it's going to actually get into windows it just hangs. Now sometimes I can just hit the reset button and then the next time around I will get the safe mode menu and if I select normal boot it will boot up fine this time. Any ideas? I'm using the latest 1.4 bios, and tried both the latest nforce drivers from nvidia's site and those beta 6 ones that are floating around.
The system works perfect aside from this issue, once I'm in windows it's rock solid. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks..

It may be worth a look but it was dexterryu talk of instability
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When I even try to install windows when the drive is on Sata 3 or 4 the pre-install hangs after loading the Nforce driver
That made me suggest looking at memory as well.
Other than booting you say your system seems stable.
Have a look hereCorsair Memory Identify your memory & see if there's a * next to it, if there is then Quote
* These parts support 2-3-3-6 latency on Intel platforms, and 2.5-3-3-6 latency on AMD platforms
applies. Don't think it does in your case be best if you confirm it yourself.
Your issue seems to be more about windows trying to detect your raid.
It wouldn't do any harm to slacken your memory timings to see if it makes any diff.
but I think in the longer run you would get better results with the updated Raid Bios & Updated Raid Drivers . See Beta Bios & Drivers
Luck

Need help with k8n neo2 platinum

I've just installed a new k8n neo2 platinum s939 board with a venice core 3200+ cpu the htt is 2000 and multiplier 10x.
I've gone to the core cell menu and set the htt to 4x (seemed to be this at default) and the max mem clock at 166 (more about this in a moment), the fsb will go quite easily up to 250mhz even 255mhz, but when I try 260 Mhz the machine when it reboots shows the initial slash screen but then goes to a blank screen with the cursor flashing in the top left hand corner, I can't even get back into the bios setup without clearing the cmos.
The odd thing is that the adjust cpu vid is showing a voltage of 1.50 and not 1.40 or startup.
Anyway with the fsb at 250mhz the bios screen is showing the Current ddr clock at 208 mhz ( not the max memclock setting of 166) the memory in the motherboard ( a crucial 512meg ddr333 single stick) seems to perform OK according to memtest which shows no errors after 2 cycles.
Any attempt to get to 260mhz fsb appears to fail even by upping the cpu vid to 1.525v unless i adjust the cpu voltage setting which by default is set to (by cpu vid) to +3.3%. Doing this enables me to get to fsb 260mhz but the memtest fails ( even when I set the max memclock to 133, which shows my current ddr speed at 174mhz, well below the 208mhz which appeared stable with the fsb at 250mhz?)
So firstly why are there two cpu voltage settings in the bios when my manual only shows 1 (there is no mention of this cpu vid setting?
How is it that my memory is stable at 208mhz with a fsb of 255mhz but unstable at 174mhz with the fsb set at 260mhz?
Why does the memory clock lock not appear to be working, the memory should be fixed at 166mhz but infact increases with fsb?
I have bios revision 1.5.
Please help as I am not familiar with the bios settings for this nforce 3 chipset, they seem rather odd to me. I'm sure my venice core 3200+ cpu can get beyond 250mhz fsb, I have another pc with a venice core 3000+ cpu which runs quite happily at 270mhz fsb.
PS I've tried reducing the htt to 3x but the same thing happens.

OK further feed back, I can get to over 260mhz fsb but the system is not stable the memory runs OK with mem test but I have problems with prime95.
I had to up the cpu core voltage to 1.53v to get to 260mhz using the cpu voltage setting in the bios and setting a 5% increase. increasing the cpu vid setting to 1.55v did not seem to do anything at all the core voltage was still at 1.43v.
I upped the mem voltage to 2.6v from 2.5 but still could not get the system to be stable, it may be that the memory is holding the system back but I don't want to pay for better memory at the moment. Unless anyone has got any other ideas it looks like I may be forced to settle with 250mhz, well still a 500mhz increase maybe not that bad. I've now to try 3d benchmarking using my radeon 9600xt and 3dmark 03.

Random system freezes with K8N Neo2...

Hi!
I've got the following problem:
My Pc freezes randomly, i.e. I'm booting my system, WinXP starts and I'm on my desktop and then it freezes and nothing happens( and I did nothing!). I have to reboot my machine. Then, the pc boots up and everything works fine (mostly). So, I can work with it maybe for a few hours or a few days and everything works nearly perfect. But then, it freezes again and I have to reboot it. Sometimes, mostly when I'm playing ut2k4 or other games, it freezes after a few minutes or a few hours of playing and I have to reboot, but not only one time; the pc boots up, I start the game again, play a few minutes and it freezes again. (this situation repeats itself several times). Or, I start the game and everything works fine for some days!
I'm frustrated because I can't play what I want or even work because of those freezes. I tried some things, like reinstalling new drivers for my mb but nothing helped. I cleared cmos and made new settings in my bios but this also didn't brought the wanted results. And now, I'm at a point where I don't know what I also can do.
Maybe a bios update would help, but I read some posts here where people have made 'bad' experiences with the new bios version, so I'm careful.
My PC isn't overclocked and my temps are ~50 idle ~59 working
My system:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ S939 NewCastle Rev. CG
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum-54G Bios. 1.0
2*512MB Kingston HyperX KHX3200AK2/1G
Gigabyte Radeon 9800 PRO Catalyst 4.8
1* S-ATA WD 120GB
1* U-IDE WD 120GB
Soundblaster Audigy Player
WinXP SP2 on S-ATA
Any suggestions?
Crazy
*edit*
oh, I tested my RAM with Memtest and there where no problems...
*edit 2*
I also thought it could be my power supply, so I bought a new one "Antec True Power 480", but it wasn't my power supply....

:rolleyes:My computer just froze the missus out and I got an ear full “I thought you said that this one’s better than the old one?” she wasn’t too happy when I told her to reset it, as she lost all of her email she was typing.
Also I found some links to similar problems, still cant figure if it’s a hardware fault or a software one
Come on MSI sort it out!!
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D-BRacket 2 and keyboard cordless problem with k8n neo platinum

hi
i have two problems
the d-bracket2 doesn't work
when my game controller is on , it isn't recognized by Win XP
but the 4 leds are green.
i tried the two connectors and it's the same thing.
my logitech cordless keyboard doesn't work in the bios
i tried with the ps2 but the keyboard didn't work in XP
i check the bios with an other keyboard and the usb keyboard support is enabled
can you help me ?
PS: Sorry for my english

Hi galette,
Do you have a k8n neo or neo2 ?
At least some neo2's have problems with ps/2 keyboards. Their users could circumvent this by using usb keyboards.
I have a logitech cordless desktop myself and for me it works. Perhaps you can borrow a usb keyboard to test it ?
vanish

News - BIG PROBLEM - MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum - DOES NOT POWER!!!

Hi to everyone.
I'm a proudly owner of a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum that in one year gave me no problem until yesterday morning.
I used the computer in the night before and when I finished I turned it off and I went to bed.
Yesterday morning I found the power led blinking (like if the system was in standby), and there was no way to turn the PC on.
I even took off the battery for more than 12 hours and I left only minimal components installed:
the video card (Gainward GeForce 6800),
the psu (Antec TruePower 550W),
1 x 512 MB Ram Crucial Ballistix,
and I checked them into another computer and they work perfectly.
I tried shorting the MB power switch pins with a screwdriver and I've even tried to power on the system without the Memory or the Video Card... I've tried everything that came across my mind with no efforts!!!!
Every time I give power to the MB appens only that the power led starts blinking, but pressing the button the PC doesn't turn on.
PLEASE HELP ME... I really don't know what else to do!!!
Thanks,
Alberto

Quote from: alberto_melita on 20-August-05, 20:14:56
Hi thanks for the answers.
I do have a D-Bracket, but my problem is not that the system does not boot or does not post... my system DOES NOT POWER ON (!!!!), so d-bracket is useless!
When I plug the system power the only thing that happens is that the power led starts blinking (with the system still in soft-off), and if I press the power switch button nothing happens!
I've the bios for 7025 v1.8 and the settings where for OFF on power-loss ond pressing the button (can't rememeber if it was more than 4 sec) was meant to turn off the computer, but considering that I un-powered the pc more than once without the MB battery the settings should be factory default by now.
I went through the Windows-XP shut-down system, and i could not be an electrical problem as I always used the PC with a pretty good UPS unit.
Right now these are the full specs of my sytem:
- MB MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3 Ultra
- GAINWARD 6800 2600 GLH 256 MB Ram
- PSU Antec TruPower 550 W
- CPU AMD64 3500+ core Winchester @11*210 Mhz (this cpu has never overclocked very well)
- HEATSINK Thermalright XP-90 with a 12 Cm Enermax Fan (CPU temp in always below 55 °C when stressed)
- 1 x 512 Mb RAM Crucial Ballistix DDR400 optimized for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
I left only these things inside my computer in the hope that it would turn on... it did not work. I tested each component but the MB, and they work perfectly.
Again...
Thanks for you efforts, any help will be appreciated.
Alberto.
All parts have been tested: CPU/RAM/GFX/PSU/HD/DVD, just not the MOBO ?
Checked if the MOBO is shorting in the case ?
Have you tried using the reset switch as power, on/off switch ? I've seen before when the power switch stops working (lose/bad wire busted spring) after swapping reset to power, then the system turned on. Worth a try, as sending it back to USA won't be cheap. If its over 1 year old it mite not be covered by the re-seller and or MSI. Best to check this out as law and warranty is different from country to country.
Good Luck

Freezing issues with K8N Neo2 Plat & 6800 gt

Well I get random freezing during games. Sometimes it freezes for 5-10 seconds then comes back, while other times it just freezes and the sound comes back but not the game.
I had this problem when I first upgraded.
K8N Neo2 plat
1gb corsair xms 3200
athlon 64 3500
aslo have:
420-30? antec tru power supply. I cant remember exact number.
6800gt ultra
audigy 2 plat
Now I first posted my problem a while ago and someone told me to try chaning the HT to 4x instead of 5x. So I did and it worked. It worked for a few weeks and now the problems have come back.
Any Ideas?

Along with the above issues, I've also found that a lot of my gaming probs with the 6800 are due to it being a "bandwidth hog" & it's latency needs to be adjusted lower to enable the other devices on the PCI bus (i.e. sound card) to get enough bandwidth to function properly. This isn't noticeable until you start some heavy gaming with a lot going on at once...
If your game ever practically chugs to a halt when a lot of sounds are being produced, this is the main problem. Here's a way & some notes on how to deal with it. Just like every "tweak" though, it's not guaranteed to work for everyone but I got noticeable benefits from it.
- D/L (I got it @ guru3D) PCI Latency Tool & give the "Read Me" a quick once-over. Write down the values for your devices, in case you need/want to change 'em back. Most items are well labeled - the 6800 & your sound card will be what you are most interested in. I wouldn't mess with the rest of 'em, as they deal with low level system items that are best left alone. Unless you are truly an Uber Geek!
- The latency for my 6800 listed as a massive 248 clks! For some reason, I've read that ATI cards don't default at such a large value, which might explain why people don't seem to have as many performance issues with 'em. Anyhow lower the 6800 to a more "reasonable" value, like 128 or 64. 64 seemed to work best for me.
- Save the settings, reboot & test it out. You can experiement with the sound card latency too, in order to find what works best for you, but I wouldn't set it at less than it's default value (32).
Hope this helps.

Cool and Quiet problem on K8N Neo2 Platinum v1.3 bios

Hello
I have a problem with the Cool and Quiet feature on the K8N Neo2 Platinum (v1.3 bios).
As soon and I boot the Core Center v1.7.0.0 will instantly overclock my A64 3500+ CPU to 3000+ Mhz. Of course this reboots my PC.
I have Cool and Quiet enabled in the bios, Automatic overclocking disabled in the bios and the Core Center softwares overclocking is (well it was) disabled? How can I install it or get it to stop overclocking the system.
I want to run the Core Center to enable the Cool and Quiet fan controlling stuff.
Thanks

Strange that Corecenter would overclock your cpu to 3ghz. It's known to be unreliable software, but not that unreliable.
Are you running a stock 3500+, or are you overclocking the HTT/FSB beyond 200?
Previous posted was right about cool and quiet software. You don't need corecenter to run it. Just stay away from corecenter and even uninstall it
Cool and quiet software (a device driver that you download from AMD, or that comes pre-installed with XP SP2) simply works as follows. It introduces the notion of several p-states (processor states) that it switches between based on its reading of cpu load. A p-state is a pairing of cpu voltage and cpu multiplier. On my 3200+ newcastle, the p-states are:
1.5V, 11x
1.4V, 10x
1.3V, 9x
1.1V, 5x
Your 3500+ might be similar. Anyway, just run cpu-z instead of corecenter to watch your cpu speed changing on the fly.
As far as fan speeds go: the cool and quiet driver doesn't affect fan speeds. That means to get the "quiet" part of "cool and quiet" you need either
(a) a fan that has a temperature sensor and which automatically changes its speed based on that, or
(b) just use the motherboard BIOS setting to do the same via bios software.
(c) use speedfan to do the same via windows software.
I myself prefer (b) but it depends on the bios accurately reporting temperature, which can vary wildly between bios releases (e.g. newcastles didn't start getting accurate temp reports until bios 1.4).

Weird multipel error with K8N Neo2 and XMS Pro 3200LL

Hi everyone, i recently got a winchester 3200 running on my K8N Neo2 Platinum 54G board and i discovered a very weird thing and im not the only one having this problem either with this mobo/cpu. Its a bit hard to explain but i´ll giv it a try.
I can start with my current spec...
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum 54G
AMD A64 3200+ Winchester
Corsair TwinX 1024 XMS Pro 3200LL
2x Maxtor diamondmax s-ata 80BG
Gainward 2400GT GS (6800GT)
Coolermaster Hyper 6 cpu cooler
Tagan 480w psu (28A on 12V)
Then i can continue with saying that this problem that occurs with my corsair memorys dose not happend with Adata vitesta 566 memorys.
I figure your getting curious by now
Well heres the deal. In normal frequencys, multipliers and dividers this setup runs just fine, but when i try to oc it past 220Mhz FSB only one multiplier will work, regardless of HTT multiplier or any other bios setting. The only cpu multipel that it will boot with in 133 divider is X5 over 220Mhz FSB, with the 166 divider the only cpu multipel that works then is x6, and only the x4 cpu multipel works in 200 divider. Keep in mind that this didnt happend with adata vitesta sticks, it ran fine with every multipel/divider config...
Oddly enough it works fine in 100 divider on the memorys, every cpu multipel works then past 220Mhz FSB. So far i have gotten my winnie stable at 2,6GHz in standard vcore (with adata vitesta in 200 divider or with corsair running in 100 divider, 290x9 on the cpu).
The divider table is as follows with the corsair sticks :
100 divider= every cpu multiplier bootable
133 divider= only x5 cpu multipel is bootable
166 divider= only x6 cpu multipel is bootable
200 divider= only x4 cpu multipel is bootable
With Adata vitesta 566 the following applys:
100 divider= every cpu multiplier bootable
133 divider= every cpu multiplier bootable
166 divider= every cpu multiplier bootable
200 divider= every cpu multiplier bootable
Could someone please tell me what causes this I realize that it´s because of some incompatabillity between my corsair sticks and the mobo/cpu, but what?

im having the same problem running 2x512 crucial value select 3200.
with everything at default speeds, cant lower memory speed or comp crashes before windows loads.
if i take out one stick and just run 512, then i can lower memory to 100. but thats it, except i can do the speeds that u listed with the specific cpu multiplier. with 2 sticks in though i cannot lower the memory speed at all. i cant find any fixes for this, if anyone has any clues please help!
running k8n neo2 plat. 1.4 stock bios. winchester 3000+.

Bios issues with k8n neo2, turn of memory test, and dmi pool data

Hey guys.
I recently flashed my bios to the 1.9's for the K8n neo2 running in my main machine.
Everything went ok for the most part, though i had some issues with boot record, and boot.cfg file. That stuff is all worked out now.
However, with this bios, I constantly get the extended memory test, on my 2 gigs of ram. The old bios i had, 1.4's, didnt do that. Is there an option to turn that off? I cant seem to find it any where?
My 2nd question is this, after this bios upgrade, my verifying dmi pool data takes longer then it used to, if it even did it before, im not sure, because my boot sequence was much faster.
How can I get rid of the "verifying dmi pool data" or speed it up?
Thanks guys

Tried to used the Bios 1c by Syar's. His bios is nice and easy. Maybe bould solve your problem.BTW do used liveupdate to flashed your Bios or is it manual? Stay away from using liveupdate as it causing a lot problems. Manual is the best way. Refer to my sig for the manual flashing. Here's the location of the files for the Bios 1C. Gd luck.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0
P/S: Create your own rig with details including the PSU and Bios revision and put in your signatures so others can help you.

FSB Frequency Problems on K8N Neo2 Platinum

I am using the K8N Neo2 Platinum with Newcastle 3500 and 2x512 Kingmax Hardcore ram, and I stumbled across a problem.
Whenever I try to set the frequency above 225 Mhz, something freezes during boot-up.. I tryed setting the HT at 4x, CPU mul. at x9 and FSB at 250Mhz, but I cant boot, I get a message... something like Disk Read Error, press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart. My HDD is SATA Maxtor 120GB. This is really driving me crazy, plz help.

My K8N Neo2 never liked Kingmax hardcore RAM - they gave all sorts of instability, errors and boot up problems.
They also gave errors in memtest86, even though they work fine with no errors in a P4 system later on.
I had to replace them and after that things worked fine.
You also may have to repair your windowsinstallation and try some other RAM.
Does not hurt giving RAM some extra voltage as well.
When your system is stable - you might want to update bios for best hardware support.
Syar´s EasyBios 7025CU2.1C3 is a good version and it sets 2.75v at default which would be enough for most RAM to boot fine and run stable.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0

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