Process Order Creation without Standard Cost

Hello All,
I need a functionality.. If standard cost is not released for a period , system should not allow me to create a process order in the certain period.
Is any standard configurations allow me to achieve this????
Thanks & regards
Mahesh
Message was edited by:
Maheshbabu M G

Mahesh,
Standard SAP allows creation of order without Std cost estimate. Only in REM you could make it give error.
However I suggest you could implement the exit PPCO0006.
In this the function module EXIT_SAPLCOZF_003 contains the import parameter CAUFVD_IMP which has material number (MATNR) and plant (WERKS). Pass these to table MBEW and get the value of STPRS (std cost). If this value is 0 then give the error.
Hope this is useful....if so reward points and close this thread.
Regards
Ram

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