Product Cost Estimate without Recipe

Dear SAP colleagues,
I am facing a problem that standard cost estimate is gettting released (thru CK40N) even if there is no recipe for some products.
I tried searching if there is a possibility of setting some error message (OBA5) but could nof find any. Since the number of products is huge, it is not possible sometimes to do this check manually for all the products.
Can anyone please help me to avoid this situation?
Thanks,
Prasad.

Hi,
Thanks for the fast feedback. I had already tried it with some messages. But based on your suggestion, I tried with some more messages. Below are the messages which are now set at Error in OPR4_CK.
E     C2     315     Routing & is flagged for deletion
E     CK     159     Routing & & does not exist
E     CK     229     No routing could be determined for material &
E     CK     306     No routing could be determined for material & plant & sel. ID &
E     CK     476     Material &: Routing does not match selection ID &
E     CK     478     No routing could be found with the specified selection criteria
E     CO     807     Task list & not valid for key date &
Despite maintaiing this setting, I am still able to generate the Standrd Cost Estimate without Recipe. There is no error in CK11N.
Is it possible for you to check further & suggest?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Rgds,
Prasad.

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Reg:Cost Estimate without Quantity Structure

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2) KP26
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5) CA01
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while am doing T.Code:KKPAN the following issue is coming....
*Material F29 in plant 1000 w/o cost comp split: price acc to val strategy
Message no. CK193*
Diagnosis
When valuating material components,
the system could not find a cost component split for F29 in plant 1000.
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The material has not been costed.
The material has not been selected for the costing run.
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Check the log.
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Can somebody explain me the theoritical point of need for product cost estimate. From my know somepeople say we need to enter the standard price in the cost estimate tab of the material master, but sometime i see that when we run the CK11n the price automatically updated in the standard price field of the material master when we mark and relese the std cost estimate.
Do we need to enter price in the material master before the cost estimate for the materials or if we do the cost estimate do we do cost estimate only for the finished products so that all the cost under that product will be calcualted or do we need to do cost estimate for all material raw material, HALB & FERT?
what is the purpose of cost estimate and the result of cost estimate?
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Edited by: Nivi ram on Dec 29, 2009 9:52 PM

Hi Nivi,
Partly I agree with Pradeep, but I would to add more information regarding product cost estimate concept.
Maintaining material master on Accounting view or Costing view is mandatory prior to run Product Costing. It is true, by maintain price manually you cannot get cost breakdown or what so called as cost component structure. It is initial price which then later can be updated by "process Marking and Release" product cost estimatel.
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SR,
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Our client does not require product costing.
He just intrested to run <b>Cost estimates with Qty. Structure </b> i.e.CK11N.
I just want to know what settings are required for that..from start to end.... from controlling area settings to costing sheet if required..
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1)what is different bitwen with quantity structureand with out quantity structure?
2)what is valvated stocks and non valvated stocks?
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Use
If you usually cost materials using costing with quantity structure, turn on this indicator.
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