Product costing and probitability analysis

Hello,
This is my issue
When a process order is settled, the following entries are passing by the system
510000 (consumption account)                = 1622.42 (debit)
520100 (production order settlement standard)     = 10067.58 (credit)
520110   Production order settlement variance      = 8214.7 (debit)
530000 Gain/Loss price variance           = 8214.7 (credit)
Balance sheet Account Change
131000 Raw material          1622.42 (decreased)
134000 Inventory FG          10067.40 (increased)
Is this correct.   As a result of the above entries... in P & L consumption account is showing a debit of 1622.42 and production order settlement standard account showing credit of 100067.58.
If it is correct... my problem is how to map these accounts in COPA .....
If the above is not correct and am i missing anything....
Thanks
Radha

hello
Yes, we have transactions in SD.... whenever we are doing billing COGS is updating in COPA .....
and operating and non-operating expenes are mapped in COPA
What should i do to reconcile COPA and FI ... the only difference between these two is only becasue of that consumption account and production order settlement standard account... these amounts are hitting whenever we do settlement of process order
.these are the steps we are doing for settlment of process order
1) A process is raised (COR1)
2) Goods are confirming (CORK) or Goods Movement in MIGO (issue)
3) Goods receipt (MIGO)
4) Variance Calculation (KKS2)
5) Settlement of order (KO88)
Not calculating anywhere WIP, and not doing techo complete in process order also.
Before the step 3 . I checked WIP (KKAX) it is showing zero after the step 3 also it is showing zero.
I think if finished goods are not sent to the stores. WIP balance should equal to the order confirmation amount Am I Correct??
Whenever we are settling the order some amount is going to consumption (debit in p & L) and some amount is going to production order settlement standard account (credit to P & L) .
I think these accounts should nullify by settlement order but showing difference.... because of this not able to reconcile fi and copa
Thanks
Radha

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