Production Order Variance Split based on Cost Component Split
Hi All,
We want the material/labor/overhead variances on the production Order to go to different value fields in the P&L.
We will be issuing Actual Material/Overheads to the Production order and there will variances for both Material and Overheads due to differene in Standard and Actual Qty issued.
But Standard SAP Variance Split Functionality will club the Material/Labor/Overhead Variances as Input Qty Variances so we cannot split it into different lines in the P&L.
Any ideas on how this can be done.
Thanks and regards,
Ankur
Hi Ankur
Its not possble in FI, but certainly possible in COPA
Create as many assignment lines in PA Trf Str as your Cost Comp Structure...
Assign the relevant GL/Cost ele in the SOURCE and choose the radio button "Costs/Revenues", instead of "Variances"
You can then assign each assignment to a separate Val Field in COPA
br, Ajay M
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Difference between cost component structure and cost component split
can anyone explain me the difference between cost component structure and cost component split with simple example
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santoshHi ,
cost component structure
Definition
Number that identifies the structure.
Use
In Product Cost Controlling, the cost component structure determines how the results of material costing are updated. The cost component structure groups the costs for each material according to cost component (such as material costs, internal activities, external activities, and overhead). If the material is used in the production of another material, the cost component split (which breaks down the costs according to material costs, internal activities, external activities, overhead, and so forth) remains in the system when the costs are rolled up.
In the cost component split, you also define the following for material costing:
Which part of the costs are fixed costs
Which costs are
cost of goods manufactured and what are sales and administration costs
Which costs are relevant for stock valuation, commercial inventory valuation and tax inventory valuation
When the cost component structure is assigned to the organizational units, you can specify that two cost component splits are created:
Main cost component split
This is the principal cost component split, meaning that it is used in the standard cost estimate, which can be used to update the material master. The main cost component split can be a cost component split for cost of goods manufactured or a primary cost component split.
Auxiliary cost component split
This can exist in addition to the main cost component split, and is not used in the standard cost estimate. It can be used for analysis purposes, in that it can be displayed with the cost estimate and passed on to Profitability Analysis.
In Cost Center Accounting, the cost component structure determines how the results of the activity price calculation are updated. The cost component structure groups the costs for each activity type of the cost center according to components (such as material costs and labor costs). If an internal activity allocation is carried out, the cost component split (which breaks down the costs according to material, labor costs, and so forth) is retained at cost rollup.
If the cost component split is not to be retained, you can create a switching structure for the cost component structure for Cost Center Accounting. In the switching structure, you specify which sender cost component goes into which receiver cost component.
<b>require a cost component structure to calculate prices using cost component split.</b>
For each cost component structure you define a component such as energy, personnel, or raw materials. The components combine all costs occuring for a particular cost element area. In this way, you ensure greater cost transparency in activity price calculation when putting together the activity type prices - for example, it becomes easier to find how much of the activity price is taken up by the material costs.
In activity allocation, the cost component structure remains constant, meaning that the receiver takes on the sender cost elements and that the allocated costs are posted in the same cost components in the receiver as in the sender.
A cost component structure can have a maximum of 40 defined cost components.
Cost components are assigned to cost elements. You thereby determine which cost elements go to which rows in the structure, and how these components are updated in price calculation.
Hope ths helps
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Sunil -
Cost component split: incorrect allocation of by-product generated
Hi everyone,
I have a question involving the costs of by-products generated and their allocation on the cost component split.
Suppose that a production order, besides the main product, also generates a secondary product. By-products in standard system are confirmed with movement type 531. In transaction OMJJ this movement is linked to key GBB / ZOF. This key is assigned to a G/L account and this account is assigned to a cost element in OKTZ.
Example:
GBB / ZOF > G/L account 1000 > Cost component 10
Thus, the by-product generated should be allocated to the cost component number 10.
However, this does not happen. These costs are allocated to another cost component. This is because SAP ERP appears to use the key GBB / VBR to calculate the cost component split.
To summarize: for accounting purposes the system uses the GBB / ZOF (which is correct!), but in the cost component structure the system seems to use the GBB / VBR (which makes the costs of by-product being incorrectly assigned).
GBB / ZOF > G/L account 1000 > Cost component 10 (used ONLY for accounting purposes).
GBB / VBR > G/L account 2000 > Cost component 20 (it seems to be used in cost component split). INCORRECT!
Can anyone confirm whether that statement proceeds?
Regards,
KelsonHi
This behaviour is corect.... Consumption accounts are used in Cost Comp Str (CCS)
GBB-ZOF is actualy sort of COGM accounts specified in GBB-AUF which is used to Credit the order at the time of GR from prod order
Just the way, AUF is not used in CCS, ZOF is also not used...
You need to maintain separate account in GBB-VBR for the consumption of By Products... For this, the val class of By products need to be separate
Else, if yu dont wanna do this - have a separate Origin Group in the Mat Master of By products and You can assign the Combo of GL Account + Origin Group to a separate Cost Component
br, Ajay M -
Cost Component Splitting in Joint Production
Hello.
I meet a trouble in the cost component splitting for the co-product.
I tried to creat a BOM like :
A B
C (CCS1) D(CCS2)
the raw material C&D are in different cost component,and the manufacturing matertials are A&B.
and I set the apportionment structure like A(CCS1 100%,CCS2 50%) B(CCS1 0%, CCS2 50%)
Then i run the CK11N,and the result is correct.
But the problem is as following:
when I creat a BOM like :
A B
E
C (CCS1) D(CCS2)
the raw material C&D are in different cost component,and the semi-product matertial is E,then E is producted for finished product A&B.
and I set the apportionment structure like A(CCS1 100%,CCS2 50%) B(CCS1 0%, CCS2 50%)
then i run the CK11N,and the result is wrong.
whatever i set the apportionment structure,the result of the CCS is A (CCS1 50%,CCS2 50%),B(CCS1 50%,CCS2 50%)
anybody can tell me how i can get the correct result?
Roc
Edited by: Roc Roc on Jan 4, 2010 11:42 AMHi
Make cost splitting structure and assigne to Production Cost Center.
Run Cost splitting KSS2 for cost splitting according to activity types.
bukhari -
Product Costing - Standard Cost Component Split on Multi Level BOM's
Hi,
We are the process of introducing SAP for all back office and manufacturing activities.
I am currently trying to verify that the product cost calculation for Multi-Level BOMs in our Legacy system matches the cost roll up or cost estimate in SAP at not only a Total Cost Level but the cost component split must be accurate also. So far, all the costs roll up correctly at a total cost level but I have noticed one issue:
When I run a cost estimate for a single level BOM the cost estimate will split the components accurately into Material, Labor, Fixed Overhead and Variable overhead, However, when this component is then used in the next level of manufacturing all the Labor, Fixed Overhead and Variable Overhead Cost is grouped under Material.
Q1.) Is there a SAP setting or config change that will keep the previous Labor, Fixed OH and Variable OH cost in these categories as the material is rolled up to finished product level?
Q2.) Is there a standard report / view where I can see the Finished Goods Standard Cost split by each of there rolled up Components? This would need to split the Total Material, Total Labor, Total Fixed OH and Total VO required to make the Finished Product.
Q3.) Is there a standard report / view where I can see the added value (Absorption) by component split (Labor, Fixed OH, Variable OH) for every Manufactured Part?
Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks & Regards,
BrianActuall I just tried again and it did ask for me S number and I put it in and I did not have "authorization" to access
Error Message - Access denied (R/3)
What happened?
You do not have permission to access this Object
What can you do?
Please contact a consulting adminstrative
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Production order variance settlement to cost centers/internal order
Hi,
I am looking to configure the settlement of production order variances to cost centers/internal order. Is there a way to do this in the settlement profile. Would appreciate your help.
Thank you,
RamOKO7 will allow you to configure the Settlement Profile by selecting valid receivers.
This should be done with/or by FICO.
Then test, test, test
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Actual Cost Component Split for cross company code transfers.
Hi,
My issue is as follows.
Production process spans across 2 company codes.
Goods are produced in production company code, transferred (via stock transport order) to marketing company code and sold to customers from marketing company code.
Stock transport order follows sales scenario i.e.. marketing company code creates purchase order for goods from production company code and production company code bills marketing for the goods.
Actual costing / Material ledger is implemented in both company codes.
We would like to roll-up (transfer) actual cost component split from production company code to marketing company (in a similar way as in product cost planning in cross-company scenario).
However, due to the fact that the transfer between the companies is in fact a "sales" the goods in marketing company code are seen as externally purchased and the only cost component we can create is based on PO conditions. But we want to get the info about production cost component split.
Once again this is for ACTUAL cost component split.
I would be grateful for any ideas.
Thanks,
SzymonHi Udo / Szymon.
I have a question about this issue.
In the sap help about multiple valuations / group costing:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/7e/cb848443a311d189ee0000e81ddfac/content.htm
Its not clear if this can roll up the Actual CCS? or what it do? My question is because i read the documentation of bussiness function: LOG_MM_SIT,and also the book *Actual Costing with The SAP Material Ledger*
states that we can handle the rollup of actual cost component split inter-company only with this BF active.
Could you clarify about this?
thanks!!
Arturo.
Group Valuation
Goods movements between affiliated companies not involving intercompany profits are processed using the group view. This view determines the actual cost of goods manufactured for the group, and does not include any intercompany profits. You can, however, display internal profits as delta profits in the legal and/or profit center views.
When you define cost components, you can specify that internal profits between company codes and/or profit centers are shown in detail in the cost component split. You activate these delta profits for the group valuation in the attributes of the cost components.
For each cost component structure, there can only be one cost component under which the delta profit is shown. This means that neither the legal view nor the profit center view can have more than one cost component for the delta profit.
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Group Costing and Multiple Valuation Approaches
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The group cost component split can be displayed according to your partner definition. You can display the cost structures of the partners hierarchically according to your requirements, such as the company code segments on the highest level and the plant or profit center segments underneath.
To display partner cost component splits, define a partner version in Customizing and enter it in the costing type. -
Actual Cost component split - Per PO
Dear ML Experts,
We have activated Material Ledger and Actual costing/ Actual cost component split in our implementation. The standard cost is based on delivery costs and there is no manufacturing involved. In order to test ML, we created some POs and did a GR and IR for those POs. When I look at the Material Price analysis on the Price Determination Structure View, I can see the Price differences per transaction (Goods receipt, Invoice receipt).
But when I go to the Cost component View (Actual), I cannot drill down into the individual transactions. I am able to see the actual cost component split only at the summarized level across multiple transactions. I can see the category Purchase Order under Receipts, but I am unable to drill down to see the actual cost component split for the individual transactions (goods receipts, invoice receipts). Did I miss anything on the configuration? The client wants to see the price differences per cost component per transaction and actual cost component split per transaction.
Is it possible to view this information using standard configuration? Would I have to change the controlling level in order to achieve this?
Can you please provide your advice?
Thanks,
BalramHi Balram.
If you have access to an IDES system, you can see a Cost Component split like this:
As fas as I know, this is only for educational porpouses. In the standard System, its not recomended have the detail of the split per movement, due to the huge amount of data genereted. There is a Flag that control this, in a Txxx table (i dont have access to the system right now).
If you really want this functionality, write SAP in the marketplace, and I guess their response is exactly what im saying.
Arturo. -
Production Order Variance not posting to COPA
Hi,
I am hoping someone can help.
We settle our production order variances to COPA. - usually without any problem. The production orders settle to both Material (Mat) and PSG
However this month we had a situation where for 2 order there was no settlement to COPA for the variance.
For these 2 production orders there was no settlement rule to PSG in the master data so this obviously explains why it didnt create a settlement document but my dilemma is understanding why there is no PSG settlement rule.
Through testing it appears that the PSG settlement rule is not created at the time of production order creation at all but seems to be automatically created after the execution of KKS2 and CO88.
The 2 orders that I had issue with this month were for a new material and I am able to recreate this probelm for any new Production order against this new material. So I suspect that there is something specific to this material that is prveventing the PSG settlement rule from being created.
But this is where I am stuck! I can't find any setting in material master or other area that would seem to impact this.
Any help appreciated,
Thanks,
TraceeHi,
First you can settle these 2 orders individually with using KO88 Transaction code and see if there is any error. Also check the settlement profile of these 2 production orders.there you can check the " variances to costing-based PA" tick is there or not.If tick is not selected there,you can select the check box and run variance calculation (KKS2) and do the settlement for these 2 production orders (KO88).
I hope this wil help you and let me know if you have any queries.
Regards,
Puri. -
Primary cost component split not happening
Hello Experts,
I am trying to create a Primary cost component split for Products with following settings
1. Creation of Primary cost component structure "1N" and marking it as Primary cost component
2. Assigning the Primary cost elements to the Cost component structure
3. Assigning the Primary cost component structure for the Company code and Plant
4. Assigning the Primary cost component structure to "Version" under "Price calculation" tab.
5. Activity type with Activity type category "1- Manual entry, Manual allocation" and Price Indicator "1 - Plan price, automatically based on activity"
6. Activity output planning for Cost center
7. Primary cost planning for the Cost centers
8. Activity price calculation. (Update run) - Prices are changed in KP26 also
9. After all the above steps I checked report S_ALR_87013644, Plan price is existing in the report as mentioned in SAP note: 1658589
After all the above steps, I tried running Cost estimate for a product. I am getting the error message
Cost element 90001 is not assigned to a cost component
Message no. CK239
Also, I am getting a message
No structure could be determined for internal activity TEB (M0001)
Message no. CK694
Therefore the Cost component is showing only the Material component.
Where "90001" is a secondary cost element. I am not sure why system is still searching for Secondary cost element where we have assigned Primary cost component structure. I also ensured that Primary cost elements used in planning are all assigned to a Component in Cost component structure.
I checked for SAP note "1736332", which is not applicable for my system version. Current version of SAP_APPL is Release 606 and Support package SAPKH60607.
Please help. Am I missing any settings.
Thank you in advance.
Muneer Ahamed NHi Muneer,
Please check whether you have maintained cost center splitting structure properly and assigned to the respective cost center for which you have maintained output planning and input planning.
This splitting structure is much required because there only we maintain the relationship between primary cost elements and activities.
Coming to your first message, yes system expects maintenance of secondary cost elements also in the cost component structure which is not primary CCS.
Inorder to show primary cost component structure view:
First, system calculates the direct activity cost in terms of secondary cost elements...
Next, it verifies the cost center splitting structure you made,
Then, system is going to convert the direct activity cost in terms of primary cost elements based on the splitting structure and Finally displays the primary cost component view
I suppose second message speaking about cost center splitting structure only, please go through it carefully
Other than these whatever the process you specified is right only..
Regards...
Jose -
Itemization does not match cost component split
Hi,
I need your help or could you please shed some light as to how to fix .
A new Overhead was created, in order to add expenses to the pricing of the product. For it a variant of different pricing to which is used currently was created, and so for maintain a historic one of the information.
In addition, in the cost component Structure an adjustment of the configuration was carried out, this was done because the previous the cost component Structure contained 18 elements of costs, which the most of the elements were specified as fixed and variable costs, therefore the system only permitted the addition of 2 more elements (SAP only permits 20 elements of fixed and variable costs), nevertheless was necessary to create a total of 23 elements of costs. For it the previous elements have to be modified and to change some elements as variable costs, specifically the elements corresponding to the accounts of materials. using tcode OKTZ
The addition of 5 more elements of costs, corresponding to overhead elements, where the type 41 costs classes were configured from the plan of surcharge created.
After carrying out the changes and to transport them the client of production, when i execute the T-code ck13n an inconsistency in the previous pricings was generated, because the cost component Structure was modified and the the following one Nº message was showed: CK869 " Mat.XXX in plant XXX: itemization does not match cost component split, the report of itemization shows different values to the reports of Costed Mutilevel BOM and of Cost Components. Additionally to the error shown by the system, also is observed that to the Cost Components report a cost in the new elements of overhead was added, even when the calculation of previous cost did not contain the determination of overhead.
In order to fix the error, I modified the cost component structure as it was before and the created another cost component structure with the required changes requested by the client specifying that it should start to be current this year. However after that change the error message nºCK869 continue: Mat. XXX in plant XXX: itemization does not match cost component split. Adding to that error message, the cost of the finished product changes with reference to the calculus of the previous product after modified the configuration and that is because the cost of the semifinished product is not being taken the values of the row material, and it is appearing with cost 0 and the only value that is taking on the matter are the costs of the activities types.If you want the message to go away then you need to mark and releasse the estimate. However, there is no requirement that you do this. The message you are getting is an informational message only. You can continue without re-costing the item. If you do re-cost the material the new cost estimate will reflect and changes you've made to the components, so there is a good chance you will get a different value with the new estimate. So if that's ok, go ahead and mark and release the new estimate.
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Hello,
We're using Special Procurement Keys in order to transfer cost estimates in a production plant to a DC. These cost estimates currently all come over with a full cost component split. For plants that do not belong to the same company, we don't want to see the cost component split at the receiving plant.
Is there any way to use Special Procurement Keys or Transfer Control so that Intercompany plant relationships don't transfer the cost component splits?
Thanks,
NickHello Nick,
In SAP Product Costing, the cost will allway be stored in cost components and it will be tranferred in similar way to to higher level and tranfer to another plant. Even earlier we have faced similar issue. The better way is to understand how the system stores and do work around.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Santosh -
How to settle the production order variance to 3 GL account
dear all
i met a problem in the project ,the customer need see the production order variance category detail for (material,routine,overhead variance) in FI report ,so it need to settle the variance to at least 3 GL account
i don't know how to configure it ,i try to use result analyse like wip ,but go failed
do you have some suggestion
thank youHi ,
Through Standard SAP .. the same it not possible . Standard SAP will post the differences to one GL account ..The variance amount is not segregated..
The way out is to use report KKO0 .( Product Costing Drill Down Reports ) in CO . There are many reports available .. and you can compute the difference in CO Reports and manually make an entry in FI by manually reversing the original variance account and posting it to cost component wise variance accounts ..
To use the KKO0 report.. please perform the following tasks :-
1. Assign cost component structure in transaction OKN0 ( Date Extraction/Product Drill Down) tab.
2. Product Group Type = Material group..
3. Run KKRV after period end every month to collect the data for drill down reporting..
Please revert back for any further clarifications
Regards
Sarada
Sarada -
ML Document: Cost Component Split (Elements) for Values
Hi peolple!
Could you help me to know how I can find the table to find de follow situation:
The line of diference that is created after the Material Ledger is closed, for example, in the line Production Receipts.
After closing month, In the CKM3, in the line "Production", the line "Receipts from lower levels" is created (we know the reason).
I neeed the table where we can find the values of this diference by cost component.
I already saw the table: MLKEPH.
This one give me the information, but show us other registers with values, and based on only this table, we don´t have how to take only the register we need.
Thanks,MLPRKEKO ML Document: Cost Component Split (Header)
MLPRKEPH ML Document: Cost Component Split (Compone -
Production Order Variance Configuration
Hi Gurus,
Would you please help me with configuring the Production order variances in product costing. I would really aapreciate if you can send me some documentation. My scenario is to configure the automatic calculation of production order variance and its settlement to Copa. I would really appreciate an early response. If you have any documentations please send it to kamkhan.sap at gmail.
ThanksHi MKR,
You can calculate the following variances in the R/3 system:
Planning variances
Production variances
Production variance of the period
Total variance
You control the variance calculation process by specifying a particular target cost version.
In make-to-stock production, standard cost is calculated in the standard cost estimate for the material. In sales-order-related production with a valuated sales order stock, standard cost is determined using a predefined valuation strategy.
During production, actual costs are collected on the order (product cost collector or manufacturing order). The actual costs that are compared with the target costs are reduced by the work in process and scrap variances (the result is called the net actual cost).
You can determine the production variances of the period by comparing an alternative material cost estimate with the (net) actual costs. This alternative material cost estimate can be the modified standard cost estimate or the current cost estimate, for example.
Total Variance
The total variance is the only variance that is relevant to settlement. This means that only the variance categories of target cost version 0 can be transferred to Profitability Analysis (CO-PA).
The total variance is the difference between the actual costs debited to the order and the costs credited to the order due to deliveries to stock. The difference between the debit and credit of the order is passed to Financial Accounting (FI) and Profit Center Accounting (EC-PCA) when the order is settled.
The target costs for the total variance are calculated as follows:
In make-to-stock production, the target costs are calculated using the standard cost estimate for the material and the quantity delivered to stock.
In sales-order-related production with a valuated sales order stock, the target costs are calculated using the cost estimate relevant to the valuation of the sales order stock (such as a sales order cost estimate or a standard cost estimate for the manufacturing order) and the quantity delivered to stock.
For the total variance, the control costs are equivalent to the following:
In Product Cost by Order, the control costs are the actual costs less the scrap variances.
In Product Cost by Period, the control costs are the actual costs less the work in process and scrap variances.
The variance calculation process compares the itemization of the cost estimate on which the calculation of target costs is based with the line items in your actuals.
The itemization contains detailed information based on the costing lot size, such as the materials to be used and the activities to be performed.
When you release a standard cost estimate for a material, the price calculated therein becomes the standard price in the material master record of the material being manufactured. In the standard system, an itemization is always created for standard cost estimates for materials.
The following variance categories can be reported for the total variance:
Input price variance
Resource-usage variance
Input quantity variance
Remaining input variance
Scrap variance
Mixed-price variance
Output price variance
Lot size variance
Remaining variance
When you settle, you can transfer the total variance to Profitability Analysis (CO-PA) broken down into variance categories.
In CO-PA, the standard cost of goods manufactured for the product is compared with the revenues to calculate an initial contribution margin for the period. The variances between actual cost and standard cost of goods manufactured can be used to calculate a second contribution margin for the period.
When you calculate the variances, you can transfer the difference between the debit and credit to CO-PA only as a total.
You calculate the total variance with target cost version 0.
Hope this helps. Please assign points and let me know if you need more information.
Rgds
Manish
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