Products needed for X12

Hi
Could someone advice on the products required for outbound and inbound X12 messaging using AS904 EE.
I'm unsure if InterConnect, ProcessConnect, BPEL are what I need to model and deploy X12 messaging.
On the Integration pages there is mention of a B2B Adapter - is this included in any of the above ? if not where can I download it ?
Thanks
Pete

Firstly forget about ProcessConnect, not sure if it has officially been scrapped but there are very few clients using it and it was so complicated to use that they are pushing BPEL instead.
Oracle did release an add-on for Interconnect called PartnerConnect which I understand provided another set of adapters that implemented various B2B protocols such as RossettaNet and ebXML. I'm not sure what the full list was but search through OTN and i'm sure you will get some info.
If you have Java experience then you always the option of writing your own custom adapter for Interconnect that called WebServices that implement the X12 protocol (if WebServices can do that, not sure??)...
Regards
Stuart.

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|   1 | NESTED LOOPS               |            | 1200 |   201K|   261K (1)| 00:52:21 |
|* 2 |   VIEW                      |            | 1200 | 30000 |   260K (1)| 00:52:06 |
|* 3 |    COUNT STOPKEY            |            |       |       |            |          |
|   4 |     VIEW                    |            |   253M| 2895M|   260K (1)| 00:52:06 |
|   5 |      INDEX FULL SCAN        | EVEN_IDX02 |   253M| 4826M|   260K (1)| 00:52:06 |
|   6 |   TABLE ACCESS BY USER ROWID| EVENTS     |     1 |   147 |     1   (0)| 00:00:01 |
Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
2 - filter("X">=1100)
3 - filter(ROWNUM<=1200)
Statistics
8 recursive calls
0 db block gets
117 consistent gets
0 physical reads
0 redo size
27539 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
281 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
8 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
0 sorts (memory)
0 sorts (disk)
101 rows processed
Lakmal (and OP),
Not sure what advantage you are trying to show here. But considering that we are talking about pagination query here and order of records is important, your 2 queries will not always generate output in same order. Here is the test case:
SQL> select * from v$version ;
BANNER
Oracle Database 10g Enterprise Edition Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Prod
PL/SQL Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production
CORE     10.2.0.1.0     Production
TNS for Linux: Version 10.2.0.1.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 10.2.0.1.0 - Production
SQL> show parameter optimizer
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
optimizer_dynamic_sampling           integer     2
optimizer_features_enable            string      10.2.0.1
optimizer_index_caching              integer     0
optimizer_index_cost_adj             integer     100
optimizer_mode                       string      ALL_ROWS
optimizer_secure_view_merging        boolean     TRUE
SQL> show parameter pga
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
pga_aggregate_target                 big integer 103M
SQL> create table t nologging as select * from all_objects where 1 = 2 ;
Table created.
SQL> create index t_idx on t(last_ddl_time) nologging ;
Index created.
SQL> insert /*+ APPEND */ into t (owner, object_name, object_id, created, last_ddl_time) select owner, object_name, object_id, created, sysdate - dbms_random.value(1, 100) from all_objects order by dbms_random.random;
40617 rows created.
SQL> commit ;
Commit complete.
SQL> exec dbms_stats.gather_table_stats(user, 'T', cascade=>true);
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> select object_id, object_name, created from t, (select rid, rownum rn from (select rowid rid from t order by created desc) where rownum <= 1200) t1 where rn >= 1190 and t.rowid = t1.rid ;
OBJECT_ID OBJECT_NAME                    CREATED
     47686 ALL$OLAP2_JOIN_KEY_COLUMN_USES 28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47672 ALL$OLAP2_CUBE_DIM_USES        28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47681 ALL$OLAP2_CUBE_MEASURE_MAPS    28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47682 ALL$OLAP2_FACT_LEVEL_USES      28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47685 ALL$OLAP2_AGGREGATION_USES     28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47692 ALL$OLAP2_CATALOGS             28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47665 ALL$OLAPMR_FACTTBLKEYMAPS      28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47688 ALL$OLAP2_DIM_LEVEL_ATTR_MAPS 28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47689 ALL$OLAP2_DIM_LEVELS_KEYMAPS   28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47669 ALL$OLAP9I2_HIER_DIMENSIONS    28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
     47666 ALL$OLAP9I1_HIER_DIMENSIONS    28-JUL-2009 08:08:39
11 rows selected.
SQL> select object_id, object_name, last_ddl_time from t, (select rid, rownum rn from (select rowid rid from t order by last_ddl_time desc) where rownum <= 1200) t1 where rn >= 1190 and t.rowid = t1.rid ;
OBJECT_ID OBJECT_NAME                    LAST_DDL_TIME
     11749 /b9fe5b99_OraRTStatementComman 06-FEB-2010 03:43:49
     13133 oracle/jdbc/driver/OracleLog$3 06-FEB-2010 03:45:44
     37534 com/sun/mail/smtp/SMTPMessage 06-FEB-2010 03:46:14
     36145 /4e492b6f_SerProfileToClassErr 06-FEB-2010 03:11:09
     26815 /7a628fb8_DefaultHSBChooserPan 06-FEB-2010 03:26:55
     16695 /2940a364_RepIdDelegator_1_3   06-FEB-2010 03:38:17
     36539 sun/io/ByteToCharMacHebrew     06-FEB-2010 03:28:57
     14044 /d29b81e1_OldHeaders           06-FEB-2010 03:12:12
     12920 /25f8f3a5_BasicSplitPaneUI     06-FEB-2010 03:11:06
     42266 SI_GETCLRHSTGRFTR              06-FEB-2010 03:40:20
     15752 /2f494dce_JDWPThreadReference 06-FEB-2010 03:09:31
11 rows selected.
SQL> select object_id, object_name, last_ddl_time from (select t1.*, rownum rn from (select * from t order by last_ddl_time desc) t1 where rownum <= 1200) where rn >= 1190 ;
OBJECT_ID OBJECT_NAME                    LAST_DDL_TIME
     37534 com/sun/mail/smtp/SMTPMessage 06-FEB-2010 03:46:14
     13133 oracle/jdbc/driver/OracleLog$3 06-FEB-2010 03:45:44
     11749 /b9fe5b99_OraRTStatementComman 06-FEB-2010 03:43:49
     42266 SI_GETCLRHSTGRFTR              06-FEB-2010 03:40:20
     16695 /2940a364_RepIdDelegator_1_3   06-FEB-2010 03:38:17
     36539 sun/io/ByteToCharMacHebrew     06-FEB-2010 03:28:57
     26815 /7a628fb8_DefaultHSBChooserPan 06-FEB-2010 03:26:55
     14044 /d29b81e1_OldHeaders           06-FEB-2010 03:12:12
     36145 /4e492b6f_SerProfileToClassErr 06-FEB-2010 03:11:09
     12920 /25f8f3a5_BasicSplitPaneUI     06-FEB-2010 03:11:06
     15752 /2f494dce_JDWPThreadReference 06-FEB-2010 03:09:31
11 rows selected.
SQL> select object_id, object_name, last_ddl_time from t, (select rid, rownum rn from (select rowid rid from t order by last_ddl_time desc) where rownum <= 1200) t1 where rn >= 1190 and t.rowid = t1.rid order by last_ddl_time desc ;
OBJECT_ID OBJECT_NAME                    LAST_DDL_TIME
     37534 com/sun/mail/smtp/SMTPMessage 06-FEB-2010 03:46:14
     13133 oracle/jdbc/driver/OracleLog$3 06-FEB-2010 03:45:44
     11749 /b9fe5b99_OraRTStatementComman 06-FEB-2010 03:43:49
     42266 SI_GETCLRHSTGRFTR              06-FEB-2010 03:40:20
     16695 /2940a364_RepIdDelegator_1_3   06-FEB-2010 03:38:17
     36539 sun/io/ByteToCharMacHebrew     06-FEB-2010 03:28:57
     26815 /7a628fb8_DefaultHSBChooserPan 06-FEB-2010 03:26:55
     14044 /d29b81e1_OldHeaders           06-FEB-2010 03:12:12
     36145 /4e492b6f_SerProfileToClassErr 06-FEB-2010 03:11:09
     12920 /25f8f3a5_BasicSplitPaneUI     06-FEB-2010 03:11:06
     15752 /2f494dce_JDWPThreadReference 06-FEB-2010 03:09:31
11 rows selected.
SQL> set autotrace traceonly
SQL> select object_id, object_name, last_ddl_time from t, (select rid, rownum rn from (select rowid rid from t order by last_ddl_time desc) where rownum <= 1200) t1 where rn >= 1190 and t.rowid = t1.rid order by last_ddl_time desc
2 ;
11 rows selected.
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 44968669
| Id | Operation                       | Name | Rows | Bytes | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT                |       | 1200 | 91200 |   180   (2)| 00:00:03 |
|   1 | SORT ORDER BY                  |       | 1200 | 91200 |   180   (2)| 00:00:03 |
|* 2 |   HASH JOIN                     |       | 1200 | 91200 |   179   (2)| 00:00:03 |
|* 3 |    VIEW                         |       | 1200 | 30000 |    98   (0)| 00:00:02 |
|* 4 |     COUNT STOPKEY               |       |       |       |            |          |
|   5 |      VIEW                       |       | 40617 |   475K|    98   (0)| 00:00:02 |
|   6 |       INDEX FULL SCAN DESCENDING| T_IDX | 40617 |   793K|    98   (0)| 00:00:02 |
|   7 |    TABLE ACCESS FULL            | T     | 40617 | 2022K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
   2 - access("T".ROWID="T1"."RID")
   3 - filter("RN">=1190)
   4 - filter(ROWNUM<=1200)
Statistics
          1 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
        348 consistent gets
          0 physical reads
          0 redo size
       1063 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        385 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          1 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
         11 rows processed
SQL> select object_id, object_name, last_ddl_time from (select t1.*, rownum rn from (select * from t order by last_ddl_time desc) t1 where rownum <= 1200) where rn >= 1190 ;
11 rows selected.
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 882605040
| Id | Operation                | Name | Rows | Bytes | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT         |      | 1200 | 62400 |    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|* 1 | VIEW                    |      | 1200 | 62400 |    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|* 2 |   COUNT STOPKEY          |      |       |       |            |          |
|   3 |    VIEW                  |      | 40617 | 1546K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|* 4 |     SORT ORDER BY STOPKEY|      | 40617 | 2062K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|   5 |      TABLE ACCESS FULL   | T    | 40617 | 2062K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
   1 - filter("RN">=1190)
   2 - filter(ROWNUM<=1200)
   4 - filter(ROWNUM<=1200)
Statistics
          0 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
        343 consistent gets
          0 physical reads
          0 redo size
       1063 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        385 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          1 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
         11 rows processed
SQL> select object_id, object_name, last_ddl_time from t, (select rid, rownum rn from (select rowid rid from t order by last_ddl_time desc) where rownum <= 1200) t1 where rn >= 1190 and t.rowid = t1.rid ;
11 rows selected.
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 168880862
| Id | Operation                      | Name | Rows | Bytes | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT               |       | 1200 | 91200 |   179   (2)| 00:00:03 |
|* 1 | HASH JOIN                     |       | 1200 | 91200 |   179   (2)| 00:00:03 |
|* 2 |   VIEW                         |       | 1200 | 30000 |    98   (0)| 00:00:02 |
|* 3 |    COUNT STOPKEY               |       |       |       |            |          |
|   4 |     VIEW                       |       | 40617 |   475K|    98   (0)| 00:00:02 |
|   5 |      INDEX FULL SCAN DESCENDING| T_IDX | 40617 |   793K|    98   (0)| 00:00:02 |
|   6 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL            | T     | 40617 | 2022K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
   1 - access("T".ROWID="T1"."RID")
   2 - filter("RN">=1190)
   3 - filter(ROWNUM<=1200)
Statistics
          0 recursive calls
          0 db block gets
        349 consistent gets
          0 physical reads
          0 redo size
       1063 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
        385 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
          2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0 sorts (memory)
          0 sorts (disk)
         11 rows processed
SQL> select object_id, object_name, last_ddl_time from (select t1.*, rownum rn from (select * from t order by last_ddl_time desc) t1 where rownum <= 1200) where rn >= 1190 order by last_ddl_time desc ;
11 rows selected.
Execution Plan
Plan hash value: 882605040
| Id | Operation           | Name | Rows     | Bytes | Cost (%CPU)| Time     |
|   0 | SELECT STATEMENT      |     | 1200 | 62400 |    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|* 1 | VIEW                |     | 1200 | 62400 |    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|* 2 |   COUNT STOPKEY       |     |     |     |          |          |
|   3 |    VIEW            |     | 40617 | 1546K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|* 4 |     SORT ORDER BY STOPKEY|     | 40617 | 2062K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
|   5 |      TABLE ACCESS FULL      | T     | 40617 | 2062K|    80   (2)| 00:00:01 |
Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
   1 - filter("RN">=1190)
   2 - filter(ROWNUM<=1200)
   4 - filter(ROWNUM<=1200)
Statistics
     175 recursive calls
       0 db block gets
     388 consistent gets
       0 physical reads
       0 redo size
       1063 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
     385 bytes received via SQL*Net from client
       2 SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
       4 sorts (memory)
       0 sorts (disk)
      11 rows processed
SQL> set autotrace off
SQL> spool offAs you will see, the join query here has to have an ORDER BY clause at the end to ensure that records are correctly sorted. You can not rely on optimizer choosing NESTED LOOP join method and, as above example shows, when optimizer chooses HASH JOIN, oracle is free to return rows in no particular order.
The query that does not involve join always returns rows in the desired order. Adding an ORDER BY does add a step in the plan for the query using join but does not affect the other query.

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