Profit Center- questions

Hi All,
Can some one help me understand and ans. the below question
1. What is difference between 3KEI & 3KEH
2. Is there any chance of get amount difference between GLu2019S account balance and profit center amount in single posting?
Eg: In posting 5000/, GL balance is 5000/- but profit center capture only 4000/-what would be reason how to rectify
3. What is use of the T.CODE 9KE0
4. How to restrict the some tractions for INTERNAL ORDER
Thank you
Anil

Hi,
If no profit center was specified or none can be derived for the selected interval of accounts when you make a posting, the system checks, whether the account is listed in 3KEH. If yes the system search for entries in TC 3KEI. If there are entries in
TC 3KEI the default profit center is taken from TC 3KEI otherwise the default profit center from TC 3KEH is taken.
For example: You have mantained profit center 1000 for the balance sheet account 1000 in 3KEH but not the 3KEI. Than the system will use this profit center by bookings with account 1000, if you have not enter a profit center by the booking with accunt 1000 in FB01.
3KEI allows you a more specified derivation than 3KEH. It means you can define a strategy for the derivation. For example, you can define, that by booking with account 1000 and business area 1000, the profit center 1000 will be derived and by booking with account 1000 and business area 2000, the profit center 2000.
You can use transaction 9KE0 to enter a document in Profit Center Accounting. It is the new transaction for 1KEL.
Regards,
Greta

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