Profit center setting
pls exp profit center setting
thanks with regards
surekha chowadary
Hello Surekha,
Go through the link for further info on PCA:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/76/c3143c26b8bc00e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Also your question is not so clear could you eloborate more...
Cheers
SRS
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Hi,
I am a Chartered Accountant by Profession. I just started my classes to eventually go for certification as FICO Consultant. I have the following question for you. I would appreciate if someone could answer this for me.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO ACHIEVE AS AN END RESULT FROM CONTROLLING SET UP.
Basic Premises:
One Company is doing business in computers and has business area's already defined geographically.
Products/ Profit Centers: Desktops & Laptops, Computer hardware like mother boards, RAM, Hard drives etc, Software.
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We can set up cost elements to match up with the expenses accts in GL. Say Cost of Production, Salaries, Stationery, Postage, Travel Etc. While setting up the cost elements we will not select a default cost center.
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We then set up Profit centers for Desktops & Laptops, Computer Hardware, Software.
Now let us go with an example for a flow of an expenditure:
We have incurred a Production cost for desktops 1,000 and Production cost for Computer Hardware 750.00
If we leave the linking of cost centers with the profit centers, at the entry level we can select a cost center Production for both the expense of 1,000 and 750 and then select the profit center Desktop & laptops for 1,000 and Profit Center Computer Hardware for 750. This will solve and settle the issue.
But I have been advised that the cost centers need to be linked to profit centers. The flow will be
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For a single cost center we cannot define multiple Profit Centers. In the above example say we link the Cost Center "Production" to Profit Center "Desktop & laptops". What will happen to 750 which actually relates to Profit Center "Computer Hardware". We can have as many Cost Centers as Profit centers to solve the problem, but that defeats the management purpose of wanting to know what is the production cost for all lines. Can we create Production in the second level under Standard Hierarchy and create cost centers for Production (Desktops & Laptops), Production(Computer Hardware) and Production Software, Drag and group them under the Second level Production that we created under standard Hierarchy. I do not know how this will affect the reports that are generated for cost centers. The reports for Profit centers will be fine.
HemreddyHi,
Cost center is defined as per requirement, In your scenerio cost center will be department wise like different product dept for example Desktop, hardware accessories, laptops etc.. So, every cost cenet should be assigned to profit center. As per reporting related to cost center and profit center both report has it own advantages like cost center is purely related to cost of the particular department wheras profit center is related to both cost and revenue, it is broad prospective related to profit or loss made for that particular profit center.
Regards,
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Regarding Profit center Reporting
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I am stucked up at the point where my profit center reports are not coming as i desired.My client wants the reports as per their product line for that purpose i have treated all his product lines as a profit center & group them as per the products to be produced in the same company but at different plants. For Example for 1000 co.code there area three plants & there product lines are A, B ,C & D out of the three plants A product is produced in all three plants, while B product is produced in only one plant & C & D are produce at two of the plants under same co.code.
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Before you can transfer data to Profit Center Accounting, you need to assign your CO objects and your material masters to profit centers.
When you post subsequently, the posting is made to dynamically derived profit centers (from CO objects) or to the profit center set at the time of the original posting (such as materials).
You also need to create your own accounts in Profit Center Accounting in order to be able to reflect goods movements between profit centers. You do this in Customizing.
It may also be useful to assign a revenue or sales deduction account to a profit center. For more information, see the section Cash Discount Expenses/Income and Exchange Rate Differences .
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· If an account is a profit and loss account but not a cost element, the system transfers all the postings where the lines contain a profit center. For profit and loss accounts from logistics activities, the system determines the profit center based on the logistics objects involved, such as the production order (for work in process) or material (for price changes or inventory differences). If no profit center can be found, the system transfers the data to the dummy profit center.
· The payables and receivables from the period in question are transferred to Profit Center Accounting. Other balance sheet and profit and loss accounts can be chosen from a Customizing table. The accounts are updated to the profit center specified or to a default profit center specified in the table. -
System not allowing to post profit center
HI
I am doing manual FI posting. system not allowing to post to desired Profit center.
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service cost center, you can manually repost the cost through KB11N. As a second option you have distribution
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Profit center is missing in profit center report , i'm forgot set 1KEF
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Thanks
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thanks for your advice.
but, i can't run tcode 1KE8, SAP give this massage.
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Message no. KM830
Diagnosis
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There are no relevant lines in the document. Possible reasons for thisare:
Document contains only balance sheet accounts
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How to set default value in Profit Center field of Tcode F-02.
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Is it possible to set a default value for 'Profit Center' field in t.code F-02? Is there a way wherein the value will be copied in reference to the entered Business Area?
For example, if during parking/posting of document, user input a value of 300 in the Business Area field, the system will automatically put 300 in the Profit Center field. Is there a way to do this?
Hoping for your feedback.
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Using the substitution this can be achieved.
TC:GGB1
Step-1: Prerequiste select the Company code for which this requirement is needed
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ii.exit
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i already set the configuration but not working bcoz of this dummy profit center.
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When i am doing MB1A with movement 201, enter cost center - 90100 and Profit Center - 13750 and hit enter. Then system shows an information - Profit center was set to 14000.
After that system automatically change the profit center. Why system shows this???
i found 1 related thread..
WBS in Sales Order
there mentioned a standard include 'FV45PF0V_VBAP-PRCTR_FUELLEN' for solve thew problem. If this is correct one, what should be change in it.
Plz guide...In this note, solution is for movement type 221. Can i do the same for movement type 201 also.
Solution As per SNOTE
Solution
Correct the table entries:
Call transaction SE16 for table T8J156X
1.Correction:
Enter :
BWART : 221
BUSTW : WA01
CNT02 : 02
and press the execute button.
One or more table entries will come up. Set the curser on each entry, press the 'change' button and clear the single, editable field. Save the entry.
2. Correction:
Enter :
BWART : 221
BUSTW : WA01
press execution button.
If there is no line with CNT01 = 98 one must create a new entry.
The new entry should be as follows:
BWART : 221
BUSTW : WA01
WERTU : X
MENGU : X
CNT02 : 98
JVACCOVR: X
The rest should be blank.
If there exists in addition lines with CNT02 = 99 the JVACCOVR fields
must be BLANK.
You can check also with: BWART : 221, BUSTW : WA01 and CNT02 : 99
after calling SE16 and pressing execution. For all lines with CNT01 = 99
which comes up the JVACCOVR fields must be blank as well.
3. Correction:
Enter :
BWART : 221
BUSTW : WA01
CNT02 : 98
press the execution button.
One or more table entries will come up. Insert a 'X' in all rows of
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Profit center was set to 2000-DUM
Hi
I have an issue here...in material master we have assigned profit center 2700 (Sales and Marketing-Jeddah) and the profit should go to 2700 profit center...but though this profit center is assigned in Material Master...the profit is going to (2000-DUM) which is a dummy profit center.
Processing at MB31.
Getting the following message:-
Profit center was set to 2000-DUM
Message no. KI339
Diagnosis
You entered profit center 2700 or transferred it from a previous transaction, such as material receipt from an external order. However, the R/3 System derived profit center 2000-DUM from the account assignments.
System response
The system automatically determines the profit center from the assigned profitability segment, cost center, order, project, network, sales order, or cost objects. This overrides the profit center you entered manually.
Procedure
To post the data to profit center 2700, assign the profitability segment, cost center or other object to that profit center as well.
If the posting to profit center 2000-DUM is correct, no further action is necessary.
This message is sent as an error in the standard R/3 System. You can make the message a caution or deactivate it entirely in Customizing. Use the Implementation Guide under "Controlling: General" and choose Change message control. Enter area KI and message number 339.
With the above warning message i can do the settings accordingly but it will not serve the perpose...of profit going to profit center 2700.
Diagnosis says about assigning of profitability segment...(I DONT WHERE TO ASSIGN).
Please give your expertise as how can i send the profit to profit center 2700 instead of dummy profit center.
Thanks!Normally the profit center gets derived from the master data i.e. material master, cost center etc. You can also derive the profit center using derivation rule. In your case, check whether you have maintianed any derivation rule in T code 3KEI and also check whether there is any default assignment mainatined for cost element in T code OKB9.
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Hi Friends,
Pls help in this issue
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SantiHi Santi,
This one is a duplicate issue. Please close this thread.
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Abhisek -
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which table can get the data of the GL account is to profit center mandatory ( i.e from tcode OBC4 )Hi
try this out by running T-Code ST05 ( SQL Trace )
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/17/358df9c9fee2469105731e10756921/frameset.htm
Follow this way...
Performing an SQL Trace
1.Open a new window and choose System ® Utilities ® SQL Trace.
The Trace Requests screen appears.
2.Choose Trace On to activate the trace.
3.Perform a typical database access in the first window (for example, an application transaction or the transaction SE16).
4.To turn the trace off, choose Trace Off and examine the SQL statement with List Trace.
5.Position the cursor on one of the PREPARE, OPEN, or REOPEN statements, and choose Explain SQL.
The system displays detail information. The index used is specified in the line beginning with Index.
Please reward for the same.
Message was edited by: Prakhar Saxena -
Error While deleting the Profit Center
Hi I am getting the below error while deleting the Profit center. Please help me how to fix this issue...
Profit center Scenario was activated in New GL Accounting
what configurations do i need to change to fix this error? Kindly advise me..
Thanks
KishoreDear,
while deleting the profit center we have to requrie follow the steps
1) OBR1 - Reset Transaction data
2)OBR2 - Reset the master data
3)OKKS - Set Controlling Area
4)OKC3 - Delete Transcation Data
5) KL14 - Delete Activity Types
6)OKE5 - Profit center De - Active
7)OKE1 - Profit center Transcation data delete
8)OKE2 - profit center delete
if if you follow above steps easily we can make the delete the profitcenter and we donot have to activate profitcenter
i hope solve you r problem
With regards /G chandu
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