Profit Center valuation without mateiral ledger activation in the ECC 6 ver

Dear Experts,
I would like to know whether it is necessary to activate material ledger in ECC 6 to derive profit center valuation by transfer pricing and the relavance of the new gl related to the profit center valuation.
Best Regards
Surya

Hi,
You got it right... for profit centre valuation using transfer prices, you need to have the Material ledger activated. Material Ledger allows to carryout material prices in Multiple Valuations and Multiple currencies.
Regards
Saket

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We have 3 currencies configured, 1. Local Currency(10), 2.Group Currency(30) 3.Group Currency in Profit Center Valuation(32).
What do you mean by Group Currency in Profit Center Valuation?
Appreciate your help.
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Srinath

In FI you can manage up to three parallel valuation methods to support transfer prices. The valuation bases are stored using the additional currency and the ledger facilities.
You can use the following valuation methods: 0 - Legal valuation, 1- Group valuation, 2- Profit center valuation.
Also you can have the following currencies: 10 - Company code currency, 30-Group currency, 40-Hard currency, 50-Index-based currency, 60-Global company currency.
The currency and the valuation method are combined in the financial accounting document to form the currency and valuation type. For example, if you want to make a group valuation in the group currency, you enter currency and valuation type 31 in the company code.
IN your case a group valuation in group currency and a profit center valuation in group currency, as well as the legal valuation in company code currency is defined.
The following settings are made in the company code:
The corporate valuation and the profit center valuation are managed in the second and third ledgers, which you have to create yourself. The valuation category used is stored in the ledger master data. You need to enter the relevant currencies in the ledger master record.
You post complete values to each ledger, not delta values. This presentation has the advantage that the parallel valuation methods can be managed in logically and physically separate ledgers. This enables a simple authorization control when accessing the datasets of the parallel valuation methods.
Different valuations can also be stored in the Special Purpose ledgers, just as in the general ledger.
In each ledger master record, you can define whether the ledger manages a legal valuation, a group valuation, or a profit center valuation.

Cost component split transfer for Profit center valuation in ke27

Dear All,
We have activated multiple valuation/transfer prices. Material ledger is also activated.
We want to transfer cost component split to CO-PA by ke27.
We have defined separate costing keys for access to actual cost estimate for legal and profit center valuations.
But cost component split transfer to COPA works only for legal valution. Even we have defined type of valution for profit center costing key -transfer cost component split and total costs.
What should be else customized to transfer cost components splitting in profit center valuation to CO-PA from actual cost estimates?
With best regards,
Kamila.

Hi,
I have assigned the same value fields used for legal valuation to column 2, which was pointed in message.
But now I got following message in ke27:
For actual data, value fields that were already populated before CO-PA valuation cannot be changed in valuation.
1. As a rule, value fields that were filled before CO-PA valuation - be it from SD or by a manual entry of a line item - can only be changed by means of user exits.
(Note that for plan data, CO-PA valuation always has priority over the values planned manually.)
2. The valuation steps in a CO-PA valuation strategy are numbered sequentially. These numbers determine the order in which the steps are carried out within that strategy. As a rule, value fields populated in one step can be used as a basis for calculating values for other value fields in a subsequent step.
Value fields that were populated in a previous step are generally not overwritten by subsequent steps.
The exception to this are steps that use a CO-PA user exit. User exits let you change individual value fields.
3. If you valuate using multiple material cost estimates simultaneously, this means that the values of different cost components within the same cost estimate are aggregated and then entered in one CO-PA value field. However, value fields that already contain data from a previous cost estimate are not overwritten by a later cost estimate. Consequently, you should assign value fields in Customizing so that the values of different cost estimates are entered in different sets of value fields.
4. When condition values are transferred to CO-PA value fields, note that condition types that are assigned to the same value field are added together. This is also the case when the condition types come from different costing sheets within the valuation strategy.
So does it mean we should define separate value fields for PC valuation?
With best regards,
Kamila.

Profit center valuation in material master

Does anyone know the table where the profit center valuation standard is stored. In MBEW I see the legal valuation standard but not the profit center valuation standard.

I can give you some information but not everything. I have gone through the deployment of material ledger using 3 valuations, but not the ones you are using. We used Local, Group and Group at Group. All 3 are at actual costing. What this means is that the local currency is the currency in the country where the plant exists. The group valuation is a straight conversion to US dollars from the local currency based on the currency conversion tables M and P rates. Note that both of these first two currencies can include intercompany profit if reflected on the transferring sales order between companies. The Group at Group is the US dollar conversion without the intercompany profit. We find this works for our business.
The other thing about material ledger is that you need to have a standard cost estimate so that material ledger can keep track of the cos component structure. The way it works is as follows:
Say the standard estimate shows labor=$100, materials=$200 and overhead=$300 for a total cost of $600. All transactions in the month using this material use the $600 standard. Now, when material ledger is run at month end, the PUP (periodc unit price) is calculated and let us assume the PUP values are labor=$150, materials=$250, overhead=$350 for a total PUP of $750. Material ledger already has tables with the details of the standard components against every transaction. Now it will apply the remaining adjustments totalling $150 to the proper cost components for COPA purposes. This is pushed to COPA using transaction KE27. Think of it like this...Actual cost is equal to standard ($600) plus/minus variances ($150).
Therefore, you always should have a standard cost estimate when using material ledger. At least that is my usage and understanding. I hope I provided useful information for you in some way.
David

How can we settle price diff. in profit center valuation to COGS acc?

Dear All,
We have activated multiple valuations/transfer prices.
We do perform cross company code material sale. We have assigned each profit center at company code level.
We have set transfer price variant in t.code 8kez and have customized accounts in Controlling-Profit Center Accounting-Transfer Prices-Settings for Internal Goods Movements -Define Account Determination for Internal Goods Movements.
We had got posting logic described in http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Now after actual costing run price differences in profit center valuation were not transferred to next level as we expected.
They have stayed as not distributed at sender (company code) profit center level.
How can we distribute price differences in profit center valuation to COGS account of sender profit center defined due to
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm?
With best regards,
Kamila.
Edited by: Kamilana Zhakenova on Dec 25, 2011 10:56 AM

Dear Gurus,
There is an addition to post above.
Transfer price was defined in SD module in Sales and Distribution-Basic Functions-Pricing-Pricing Control-Define Condition Types.
Now it is taken during cross company code sale from scheduling agreement and invoice.
(Please, do not take into account that we have customized transfer prices in 8kez)
But the issue is price differences in profit center valuation settlement.
They do settle to the next level for receiver company code like in group valuation.
We need to settle them to COGS account at company code sender side.
How we can do that?
With best regards,
Kamila.
Edited by: Kamilana Zhakenova on Dec 26, 2011 11:37 AM

No revenues in CO-PA document in Profit center valuation

Dear All,
We have activated multiple valuations/transfer prices.
Now in CO-PA documents for 'F' operations absent revenues in profit center valuation.
However, in FI document there is amount for revenue in profit center valuation.
How can we solve this issue?
With best regards,
Kamila.

Hi,
If you want PCA valuation view in COPA it is not enough to flag it in KEA0 and set up in 8KEM.
if you want to update the profit center valuation view in CO-PA it's necessary to use special PCA condition types on the billing document for this. These condition types of category 'c' and 'h' represent the profit center revenues and costs. Please have a look at the note 122008 that describes this in more detail
The note 135288 provides information about transfer prices and SD pricing.
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Third party sales revenue getting posted to Profit Center valuation in COPA

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We have activate profit center valuation for our operating concern.
During normal OTC cycle (third party sales), all the data is flowing correctly in legal view for the COPA document
In profit center valuation, only revenue is flowing and no other values like discounts, standard costs are flowing to Profit center valuation view
My question why only revenue is flowing and not any other values. Is this way system should behave
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If you have created new GL Accounts to map the Third party scenario, the pre-requesite is that you might need to create cost elemenet with category 11 or 12.
Further only assignments are condition types assigned to value fields.
Check if the billing type is reset under TCode KE4W.

CK11N_STD of profit center valuation differ from legal & group valuation

Dear Experts,
Standard price for profit center valuation differ from company code & group valuation, due to some lower level mat. get different cost in costing run. But, all three valuation currency are TWD.
ex: Mat. A in lower level
legal/group valuation: $ 282,872
Profit center valuation: $ 282,871
We didn't mark up any price between plants.
The STD price for lower level mat. are all the same.
Why do we still get differnt results?
How do we change it to the same STD, because currency are all the same.(TWD)
Thanks in advance.

Just those SD conditions with condition category equal to 'b' or 'c' or 'h' are passed into CO-PA profit center valuation. SAP Note 135288 explains it more. Note 364449 is also relevant. Should you seek to correct past postings, please consider notes 418080 and 206888.
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Userexit for populate profit center entry without material in T.code CORO.

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user exist in PP for transaction code CORO-process order without matl code to populate profit center entry, can u plz find out that & send it to me..

Thank you all for your valuable input.
Srinivasa, your suggestion is very good, especially when calculation of variances/WIP is required. But again as there is no cost relevant material where the WIP/Variances will be settled during settlement process?
1) PP need to create process order without material because changeover cost should not be charged to either material and capacity hours are consumed during changeover. 2) CO need to identify the cost of changeover which should be charged to cost center. So far we have achieved both of these two objectives by the following activities:
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After contributors feedback in this thread I have come to conclusion that I don't need to assign Settlement Profile and PA Structure to Changeover Process Order type. So no need to run Process Order settlement. As there is no specific required for Changeover WIP/Variances as well.

Table where the profit center valuation standard is stored.

Does anyone know the table where the profit center valuation standard is stored. In MBEW I see the legal valuation standard but not the profit center valuation standard. Both of these can be viewed in the material master data in the accounting 1 tab.

Hi,
CEPC table
Rhea.
Edited by: rhea on Sep 26, 2008 1:51 PM

Is the Profit Center a pre-requisite for activating the New GL?

We are currently using the Classic General Ledger in the ECC 6.0 and looking into activating the New General Ledger. However, we are not using the Profit Center. Can anyone help me if we can activate the new General Ledger without activating the Profit Center?
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I am running S_ALR_87013340 : profit center Plan Actual comparison report, on a group of profit centers: the total I got is different from the sum of the individual profit centers in the group: the difference being on my production variance account, and a sales posting that relates to the prior period
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