Profit center vs cost center

Hello Friends,
is profit ctr info needed in cost center planning?
if so, could you advise how profit ctr info is used in cost center planning.
regards
Markus Zambizi

The cost center is assigned to a profit center in master data . You don't need the profit center in cost ctr planning. You would plan your profit centers in PCA planning. There is a function in PCA to transfer plan data to PCA from CCA which makes it much easier.
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Cost Center assign Profit Center Issues

Hi Controlling Expert,
i have one issues regarding, Cost Center assign to Profit Center
wht happened , we have made MIS Report Thru Report Painter KE80, we have map based on   Primary Cost Element, at the time of Business Transaction, we have capture the Finance Cost center i.e FI000, Marketing Cost center i.e MK000 , HR Cost Center i,e HR000 and assign the same cost center FI000 to Profit Center i.e FI000 also same name, respectively. in MIS report there is two Head i.e Sustaining Cost and Development Cost ,where we have to capture only Cost center for Sustaining Cost related to display i.e FI000, MK000 and HR000. KE80 report belongs to Profit Center wise you can see the Report. But same FI000, MK000 and HR000 also updated related with business transaction and capture above cost center like in depreciation GL Amount 1000 cost center FI000 and sustaining cost also updated the same amount 1000 because we have assign FI000, i.e wrong . last 3 months post the amount now wht should I do for not updated sustaining cost, as I understand , should be delete sustaining Cost as well Development, and later on we can take report from KSB1 for FI000, MK000 and HR000, for management purpose, so if I cannot assign profit center FI000 to Cost Center .kindly correct me whether ryt or wrong. Coz Fianance, HR cost and marketing is only cost center. not suppose to assigh profit center, in this case how Profit Center removed from Cost center. kindly let me knw, or give me other option.
wen we see the report same Profit Center showing two times along with amount i.e wrong coz of Sustaining Cost we have assign Profit Center
in this report particulars are Below
Revenue : Relevant GL ( At time of Business Transaction we have captured the Relevant Profit Center i.e Finished Product i.e R100: RA Tube
and RA Tube R100 assign with same Cost Center R100.
B.Material Cost : Relevant Primary Cost Element
Manpower      : same like Above
2.Energy            : same like Above
3.Consumption   : same Like Above
Conversion Cost (1+2+3)
Sustaining Cost   : Here we have given Profit Center i.e FI000, MK000 and HR000 these profit center assign
Development Cost : Here we have given profit Cente EN000
Profit      (A-B-C-D-E-F)
G.Depreciation : Relevant Primary Primary Cost Element
Financing Cost : Relevant Primary Cost Element
I. Other Income/Loss : Relevant Primary Cost Element
PBT : (F-G-H-I)
Kind regards
Pranav Kr. Gupta
SAP FICO Consultant.

Hi Pranav
You are logging same issue twice. I didnt see any difference in the two threads though.
If its the same issue, request you not to repeat this in future.
KE80 report two times value effected
Regards
Mustafa

Secondary Cost Element Values doesn't display in Profit Center Report

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I'm having a problem with our Profit Center plan/actual/variance reports wherein it doesn't display the postings I made to the Secondary cost element when I executed an assessment cycle (KSU5). I already set in the configuration that all postings to be done in the cost centers, should have a parallel posting to the profit center assigned to it. I can see the postings in my cost center reports, but not in my profit center report. Could I have missed out on any procedure to enable the secondary cost element parallel posting in my profit centers? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

it might be the configuration of the library or some parameter in the report (record type should be 0 and 2 for actual values, where 2 stands for distributed values and 1 and 3 for planned values)
but it also might be that the reconciliation is done between different CC and same PC
- check your CC organisation asignment
- if sender cost center and receiver cost center have tha same PC it is probably the reason
- I had that problem my self and didn't solve it
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matej

Profit Center deriviation from Cost Center

Hi all,
I have just configured CCA and PCA for one of our new company code.
I have created 3 cost centers like A, B, C and subsequently same have been created as profit centers too.
Maintained the profit center in the cost center master data.
No other derivation rules has been configured so far.
Now i am trying to do a expense posting with F-02, after entering cost center, system is updating profit center field with a dummy profit center only.
Even i f a changed the dummy to normal profit center, again system replacing the normal PC with dummy PC.
I want like...when i enter CC as A, then i need to derive PC also as A for the line item. ( For both expense items as well as revenue items).
Please suggest.
Regards,
Srinu

Hi Chintan,
Thanks for your quick response.
We have already implemented the said SAP note.
Let me explain my requirement again.
We have IOA, CCA, PCA active in our system.
For every expense or revenue line item Internal order is mandatory.
apart from we have 3 cost centers and 3 profit centers ( 1:1 )
in cost center master , profit center is assigned.
1) users are going to decide the cost center, while posting FI direct entries only. So while doing F-02, they will enter CC, and IO manually and at the same time PC should derive from cost center master data ( as it is 1:1 only).
2) as specified above, we have IOA, CCA, PCA active. In this case IO, CC, PC are to be set as mandatory fields for Field Status Groups G004 and G029?
Please advise...
Regards,
Srinu

Profit Center value for Creation of Cost Center in MDG F

Hi
I am using MDG-F 6.1. I want to create cost center using change request type OG_W003 ( Cost Center single processing) without uploading intial data from ECC check table ( CEPC- Procit Center Master Data ).
Is this possible as there is warning message while creation of CC?
As there is warning message befor submitting of CR as
'Field "Profit Center": Field should be filled because Profit Center Accounting is active'
If we go ahead for with final processing then again one warning message
'The status of change request 86 does not allow for object changes'
After Approval active CC stores in MDG database table and not replicated to ECC even assigned Edition with flag'Immediate replicate' .
Also one more question How referance data ( Like Controlling Area/Company Codes) are retrived in MDG F in case of add on deployement?
Does intial upload is requird for this as well?
In ECC it is possible to create CC without PC.

Hello Sanjay
For Interface and for ALE setup Global company code is must. You are dealing with cross-company transfers since you are using MDG and ECC. In the ALE distribution layer, it is required to set up the global company code for the program to understand for which company code the master data is created. This setting will not affect any process. Tcode- ob72 and obb5.
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Cost component split transfer for Profit center valuation in ke27

Dear All,
We have activated multiple valuation/transfer prices. Material ledger is also activated.
We want to transfer cost component split to CO-PA by ke27.
We have defined separate costing keys for access to actual cost estimate for legal and profit center valuations.
But cost component split transfer to COPA works only for legal valution. Even we have defined type of valution for profit center costing key -transfer cost component split and total costs.
What should be else customized to transfer cost components splitting in profit center valuation to CO-PA from actual cost estimates?
With best regards,
Kamila.

Hi,
I have assigned the same value fields used for legal valuation to column 2, which was pointed in message.
But now I got following message in ke27:
For actual data, value fields that were already populated before CO-PA valuation cannot be changed in valuation.
1. As a rule, value fields that were filled before CO-PA valuation - be it from SD or by a manual entry of a line item - can only be changed by means of user exits.
(Note that for plan data, CO-PA valuation always has priority over the values planned manually.)
2. The valuation steps in a CO-PA valuation strategy are numbered sequentially. These numbers determine the order in which the steps are carried out within that strategy. As a rule, value fields populated in one step can be used as a basis for calculating values for other value fields in a subsequent step.
Value fields that were populated in a previous step are generally not overwritten by subsequent steps.
The exception to this are steps that use a CO-PA user exit. User exits let you change individual value fields.
3. If you valuate using multiple material cost estimates simultaneously, this means that the values of different cost components within the same cost estimate are aggregated and then entered in one CO-PA value field. However, value fields that already contain data from a previous cost estimate are not overwritten by a later cost estimate. Consequently, you should assign value fields in Customizing so that the values of different cost estimates are entered in different sets of value fields.
4. When condition values are transferred to CO-PA value fields, note that condition types that are assigned to the same value field are added together. This is also the case when the condition types come from different costing sheets within the valuation strategy.
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Substituting Cost of Goods Sold Account Profit Center

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I am using Sales Order substitution to change the Profit Center according to Sales Org + Product Hierarchy + Customer Group + Acct Asst Grp. This perfectly replace the Profit Center in Sales Order. The Profit Center from Sales Order is perfectly flowing to Outbound Delivery.
While doing PGI, in accounting document, Cost of Goods Sold line item is not getting the profit center from outbound delivery. It post COGS line item with Material Master profit center. We want profit center of Cost of Goods Sold line item is same as Sales order / Outbound Delivery.
I checked SCN, everyone provided the solution of using FI Substitution to change the Profit Center of COGS line item.
Is it any other way it can be achieved? if FI Substitution is only the way, can anyone provide the sample code, so that it can be developed fast.
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Venkat Ramachandran

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1)       Created new types for SO, SO Item, Sched. Line, Delivery, Delivery Item, Billing type
2)       Created new Pricing procedure
3)       Created new movement type Y61/Y62 modeled after 601/602
4)       Mapped Y61/Y62 to account modifier ZAX.
5)       Mapped GBB/ZAX to the new account.
Benefits, they now have better view of the orders going inter-company. It is flexible enough to adjusting prices for intercompany separate from standard orders, even though for now it is a straight copy of cost. They are able to remove the sales/use tax, from the calculations. They are able to plan with these orders separated out. Plus, this will standardize their process for inter-company.
Hope this helps someone.
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Rick

How to restrict the users specific cost center/profit center in FBCJ transaction.

Hello Guru's
We have created multiple profit centers across india. So I would like to restrict area wise profit center to use the users.
ex ; I have created for MUMBAI M001 to M009 range and for Hyderbad I have created H001 to H009.
So my requirement is Only Mumbai user should able to post the entries in FBCJ transaction and should not able to post other area's which are hynderbad and so on.
In T code FBCJ, Users are able to post to any cost center/profit center even it is not in the range of B001 to B991. I have maintained these values in object K_PCA and org levels as well
Kindly provide your valuable solutions’.
Thanks
Mohan

Hi Rajiv,
Thanks for information.
I have already restricted the filed RESPAREA of K_PCA. Please find the below details.
PCFFCLB001-PCFFCLB991, PHFFCLMUMBAI
However still the user is able to post the entries in other area's (hydarbad n delhi..). Can you please let us know other solution.
Let me know if you need any other details.
Thanks
Mohan

Combination of GL A/c & Cost Center or GL A/c & Profit Center Validation

Hi,
Can anyone please tell me a way to validate the combination of GL Account and Cost Center or combination of GL Account and Profit Center?
Is there a master table wherein I can validate this particular combination??
Thanks and Regards,
Arti Dohare

Hi
I think there is no master tables in the configuration for this particular links
Cost center -GL
and Profit center -GL account
You can find this combinartion of data in most of the Transaction tables
for example for a PO you will get GL account and Cost center in EKKN table
For each application doc account assignment tables you will find them
see the other master tables for them
Cost center - CSKS
Profit center - CEPC
GL account - SKA1
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Anji

Cost center & Profit Center set up

Hi,
I am a Chartered Accountant by Profession. I just started my classes to eventually go for certification as FICO Consultant. I have the following question for you. I would appreciate if someone could answer this for me.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO ACHIEVE AS AN END RESULT FROM CONTROLLING SET UP.
Basic Premises:
One Company is doing business in computers and has business area's already defined geographically.
Products/ Profit Centers: Desktops & Laptops, Computer hardware like mother boards, RAM, Hard drives etc, Software.
Cost Centers: Production, Ware housing, Selling & Distribution, Gen Admin.
We can set up cost elements to match up with the expenses accts in GL. Say Cost of Production, Salaries, Stationery, Postage, Travel Etc. While setting up the cost elements we will not select a default cost center.
We can set up cost centers for Production, Warehousing, Selling & Distr. and Gen Admin.
We then set up Profit centers for Desktops & Laptops, Computer Hardware, Software.
Now let us go with an example for a flow of an expenditure:
We have incurred a Production cost for desktops 1,000 and Production cost for Computer Hardware 750.00
If we leave the linking of cost centers with the profit centers, at the entry level we can select a cost center Production for both the expense of 1,000 and 750 and then select the profit center Desktop & laptops for 1,000 and Profit Center Computer Hardware for 750. This will solve and settle the issue.
But I have been advised that the cost centers need to be linked to profit centers. The flow will be
1. Cost Element to Cost Center has to be done by the user ( Since we did not define a default cost center at the Cost Element level).
2. From the cost center the expenditure should flow automatically (Since we can link the Cost Center to A Profit Center). This is where I am having a problem in understanding the concept.
For a single cost center we cannot define multiple Profit Centers. In the above example say we link the Cost Center "Production" to Profit Center "Desktop & laptops". What will happen to 750 which actually relates to Profit Center "Computer Hardware". We can have as many Cost Centers as Profit centers to solve the problem, but that defeats the management purpose of wanting to know what is the production cost for all lines. Can we create Production in the second level under Standard Hierarchy and create cost centers for Production (Desktops & Laptops), Production(Computer Hardware) and Production Software, Drag and group them under the Second level Production that we created under standard Hierarchy. I do not know how this will affect the reports that are generated for cost centers. The reports for Profit centers will be fine.
Hemreddy

Hi,
Cost center is defined as per requirement, In your scenerio cost center will be department wise like different product dept for example Desktop, hardware accessories, laptops etc.. So, every cost cenet should be assigned to profit center. As per reporting related to cost center and profit center both report has it own advantages like cost center is purely related to cost of the particular department wheras profit center is related to both cost and revenue, it is broad prospective related to profit or loss made for that particular profit center.
Regards,
Sreekanth

Cost Element and Profit center accounting

hi to all,
in my production system, most of PL accouts have been created as cost element. but some revenue and COGS accounts have not been created even there existed transaction data.
now i want to create all PL accounts as cost elements. revenue (category is 11) and COGS(category is 12) accounts link with Logistic, so i am not sure the effluence in the auto posting with Logistics. if there is any problem?
by the way, after create all PL accounts as cost element, i want all the transaction data for PL account can flow into profit center accounting because i want to generate profit center PL report. what shoul i do? set the profit center field mandatory or set Substitution? or some more reasonable solutions ?
expect your valuable suggestion/
thanks in advance
Ivan

Hi,
After creating P/L accounts as cost element when ever you will post to that account it will ask for posting to true CO object it can be a real cost center, real internal order or profitability segment etc.
If you want all P/L account to post to profit center, you can set profit center field mandatory and you can enter profit center manually.If your CO account assignment is cost center System can also derive profit center from cost center master data.and OKB9 is more option which u can make use of.

Cost center line items by profit center

Hi,
We have an issue, where user has processed a document in FI with profit center "X" however the cost center of the document has profit center "Y" in the master data.
In FI, accounting document showed against the profit center "X" with which user has processed.
In CO document profit center was coming with "Y whcih is in cost center master data.
There is a variance between FI and CO for profit centers.
However profit center account is not completly configured, it is configured minimally. So GLPCA, GLPCT do not fetch data for the given profit centers, I do not have profit center appearing in CO line item reports. We are using ECC 6.0 version.
Please help me to reconcile the difference.
Regards,
Ramesh.

Hi,
I think your case for SAP is not normal process. Normally, if user assign separate profit center which is different to profit center in the Cost Object, lets say the cost center, during the posting the system will issue message that the profit center is changed the profit center assigned in the Cost object. System would not accept two different profit center on one posting process.
For example:
Posting material using assigment cost center X that contain profit center 1000, then also assign own profit center 1402.
During posting, the system will issue message " the profit center is changed to 1000". This is what happen when there is discrepancy in profit center during posting.
So, by having one profit center in a document, the data that flow from FI will follow the assignment in the Cost Object.
For this problem, I think you need to raise this issue to OSS.
Regards,
Irhasni

Cost center and profit center details

Hi All
Is there any function module or BAPI to obtain cost center and profit center details
for a GL account. Actually I am obtaining the carry forward balance for a
fiscal year from the table GLT0 but I am not getting the corresponding profit center
and cost center details.
Please suggest a way forward!
Regards
Ankit

Hi,
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sksingh

Cost center and profit center linked to GL account

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I am obtaining the carry forward balance for the fiscal year from the table
GLT0 but I also need the cost center and profit center details for the GL account,
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Hi,
Hope OKB9-Account Assignment will resolve this issue.
There you have the assignments.
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A
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Assign manual cost and profit center for 3rd party purchase order

When we have a 3rd party purchase order we need to assign OUR cost and profit center to that document. Here is the scenario:
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HI Kapil,
For any accounting entry you need to define a General Ledger Account where the details (Amount) of the transaction will be stored.
Just by maintaining cost centre will not help in completing any transaction involving accounts. So you need to maintain G/L account in the controlling area of your company code.
You can use T Code FS00 to create new G/L account in the chart of accounts.
In the edit cost element Tab you can give the cost center that you want.
I hope this helps.
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Where and how to enter plan data cost and profit center wise to get data in grr1

Hi Gurus,
Appreciate you can tell me where and how to enter plan amount cost center wise for cost elements and profit center wise for revenue elements????
So that we can get this data in grr1 report.....
Can we upload this planned data, if yes how??
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Hi..
If you use classic PCA, refer to Plan Data Transfer - Profit Center Accounting (EC-PCA) - SAP Library.
If you use new gl pca, refer to Transferring Plan Data from Controlling - General Ledger Accounting (FI-GL) (New) - SAP Library

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