Profit segment okb9 price difference

Dear Forum,
I have price difference account maintained in okb9 with a tick at profit segment.
I test to post this price difference account in FB01 and i can see it gets posted in COPA price difference value field.
My question is, how does the system know this account need to update in COPa price difference value field? Even with a tick at okb9 prfseg, still how can the system know which value field to post to in COPA?
Need forum help of which tcode i can see the mapping as besides price difference account, also got other account with a tick at prfseg in okb9.
Thank you.

Dear,
Thanks. I found it in kei2.
In assignment lines, I can see a list of assignment with number. For price difference, it is assignment 287 But I would like to know how does the system know 287 is price difference? The system will go through each assignment lines and its source to check the account group, if gl account in the group then it will assign to value field? If this is the case, then assignment number 287 has no meaning to system?
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