Profitability segment being derived again-in MIRO for Subsequent Credit

HI All,
Need help for below Warning message i could not able to post MIRO for subsequesnt Credit.
Profitability segment being derived again
Message no. KI350Diagnosis
You have assigned an profitability segment with the auxiliary account assignment PrCtr 5300MN0000. The profitability segment, however, contains the characteristics PrCtr 5300MN0000.
System Response
The characteristics of the profitability segment and the auxiliary account assignments must not contain different values. In particular, the profit center and business area must match.

Hi
As Waman said, there will be some substitution which is forcing PC into the line item.. Else, this problem wont occur...
If possble, switch off your subst and Post this entry..... See if it goes through
Br, Ajay M

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