Prycing Condition accrual

Hi all,
could you help me on the following topic :
- I have a credit note with a manual price condition.
This condition should be posted to accounting with "normal account" and for the same amount, should reverse accruals made manually in FI.
I tried to use "Accrual Key" in the pricing procedure for this purpose, but it seem to work correctly only if condition type it's defined as "Accrual". In this case condition type it's set automatically "statistical", so the amount of my invoice is zero.
In your opinion, provisions may be used only for statistical conditions and bonus ?
Thank you very match in advance
ciao
Narciso

Hi swapna
Say in 1st pricing procedure you have assigned PR00 condition type and If you check the accruals for the PR00 condition type in V/06 then you need to assign the accruals account key in your pricing procedure and also the requirement 24 .
Secondly you need to change the condition class and calc type also if required
Finally you need to assign the provisional G/L account to in VKOA for that account key .If you maintain all these configurations then only it will be passing to FI
Now say in 2nd procedure if you want to use the same then it is not possible. So Copy the PR00 condition to ZR00 condition type and assign in the 2nd pricing procedure and don't check the accruals.
But if you want to use the only 1 condtion type in both pricing procedures then while releasing to FI you need to face these errors and then you need to assign the above things
Regards
Srinath

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very late to reply..but, below is the solution for NON-INVENTORIED FREIGHT CONDTION in MM pricing condition :
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