Pse5.0 organizer

Can Photoshop Elements be cofigured so that the organizer does not open automatically. I have looked through the program files and see no mention of the oranizer.I haven't tried doing a custom re-install. I am running a Zip 250 drive and have recently installed the WinZip utility. This utility is causing problems and the organizer only exacerbates these. If I could create a way to keep the organizer from opening automatically that would help in getting to the problems unique to the WinZip utility.
Bill

two thoughts
-- if PSSE 5 is opening to the Organizer when you click on its desktop icon to start the program -
then in the Organizer go to the "Window" pulldown menu and choose "Welcome"
-- if PSE 5 and the Organizer are starting automatically when you connect a camera, camera card reader, or USB flash drive, then in the Organizer go to the Edit menu, choose Preferences , then choosw Camera or Card Reader and uncheck the box for "Auto Launch Adobe Photo Downloader ...."
(Note - if still not solved when connecting a device post back because there is an alternate but more complex approach that is sometimes but not usually necessary)

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My experiences are the same as those of Chris and DPX: I have no problems at all with Scrolling (assuming the Thumbnails have already been built - the first thing that I do after migrating to a new Version, I rebuild all Thumbnails - this is quite lengthy and I walk away from my PC during this 2-3 hours long Rebuild).
And with my 15'000 Photo-Files catalog, a V5 Tag Search typically also takes around 2-3 seconds (with V4 it was around 10 seconds).
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PSE 5 organizer converted to LR

Although there has been discussion about this, I can't find an answer.
I am a pse 5 user and am thinking about buying lr. Can I convert my organizer to the LR organizer with minimal hassle?
Am I better off keeping the pse5 organizer or better off using the lr organizer?
Is there a simple answer for these questions?
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I'd put it this way - Lr is designed to tightly integrate the library into the other modules. If you are using PSE as an organizer, you're *still* going to be importing images into Lr and dealing with the Library module to some extent.
Reversing it, if you organize in Lr, you can still use PSE as an editor but avoid PSE's organizer altogether. You'll get the full benefit of Virtual Copies as well. All of this would, at least, provide a cleaner workflow. Unless there is a PSE Organizer feature that is so compelling you'd have to have it, therefore I'd suggest using Lr as your organizer.
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Next, what happens if you repeat the Adobe technical support solution that worked once?
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http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb401340

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I have a lot of photos tagged in Windows PSE5 Organizer. I have recently upgraded to PSE8 and need to think about how to align the two.
A simpliifed example: In my current catalog, I have two tags upder the tag category "People": Bert and Ernie. Over the years, I have tagged pitures with both Bert and Ernie with both tags. When I do a search on "Bert" I find pictures with just Bert and pictures with both Bert and Ernie. This has been satisfactory.
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* Should I only drag the new "Bert" tag on those pictures with only Bert in them?
* Or can I drag the new Bert tag on pictures with both Bert and Ernie?
I don't understand the technology well enough yet to know if it can get confused by the latter.

The Who Is This box is part of the new face-tagging in PSE 8. When you invoke Find > Find People For Tagging, it will let you tag individual faces with People tags via the Who Is This box. When a face is tagged, that tag can still be used like the old People tags -- you can assign it other pics, you can search for all pics that have the tag, etc. But the Find People For Tagging command will also show the face associated with the tag.
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Have PSE5, want to upgrade - QUESTIONS

I currently have PSE5 and would like to upgrade. I realize that this may sound basic to most of you, but my questions are:
(1) What will happen with my images that are currently in my PSE5 Organizer?
(2) Do I need to purchase the entire PSE8 or 9 or is there a cheaper upgrade if I already have 5?
(3) Will I need to uninstall PSE5 or do I just install the new program on the same computer?
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If you are in the UK then there is an Upgrade version (cheaper) available.
You might be interested to read my discussion posted yesterday about possible issues regarding the music files/audio not playing.

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Is there a way to send photos/slideshows from PSE5/Organizer directly to Premire Elements 2 instead of the default version 3?
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Some observations about sending from PS Elements to Premiere Elements-
You can not send a Slide Show creation from PSE5 to Premiere Elements 2: the function of sending the slide show is only available from Photoshop Elements 5 to Premiere Elements 3.
You should be able to send photo files from PSE 5 to Premiere Elements 2. However, if Premiere Elements 3 is the most recently installed Premiere Elements version, it is probably set as the default version for sending from Photoshop Elements. My guess is that there is a setting in a Registry field, but I can not be specific on a field.
Of course, you could also just use Premiere Elements 2 and bring the photo files directly in as media in Premiere Elements. If you have the photo files in an Organizer collection, you can File > Export with Base Name option to keep the sequence of the collection and you can also decrease the pixel resolution of the photo files (as recommended for Premiere Elements) during the Export command.
Your question did not mention the other option to OUTPUT a WMV with DVD,NTSC/PAL size parameters from the PSE slide show process and bring that WMV file in to Premiere Elements 2. I am not suggesting it because there is an expectation that the image quality in the final output will be better if this intermediate step of the WMV file is not used. I referenced it here only to have a more complete discussion of the alternatives.

How do I get a clean start for catalog to start all over again?

Running PSE5 on Win XP w/SP3
I have not been able to get any information about how to recover a catalog from files that have been copied as a backup, so it looks like I'm forced to start all over again. There are about 17000 images in the C: drive. The images all seem to be OK. A few days ago there was a properly operating catalog file (and all the others) there, too.
Since then, I have tried to learn how to make the former catalog file operative, but no luck. Since then, I have read that just uninstalling and reinstalling PSE5 will do nothing to give me a clean start - that is, all the old (now problematical) catalog file trouble will still be there.
To start all over again seems like such a waste of time, since I have copies of all the catalog files as they were properly operating in March, but it seems that something important is missing and none of this stuff is useful in any way. I'm not the PSE5 user, so I didn't know about the external catalog backup that can be done from within PSE5 - so the possibility to use that technique does not exist. All I have is a straight copy of everything in the Documents and Settings.. ...Application Data\Adobe folder. I've tried replacing the whole Adobe folder with the backup files, starting PSE5 and looking at the catalog, but that didn't work either. I just get the same old empty catalog.
So, the 'start all over' option seems like the only way out. Anyone who has lost the catalog knows how much work is in the catalog, so any help with either making the old catalog file work through reconstruction somehow, or starting all over again, will be very helpful. Someday, I'd like to learn how this happened. Until then I'll be backing up the catalog file from within PSE5 to an external location... Everytime there's a new entry in the catalog information. That method seems simple enough that even I could do it.
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(K3PXR)

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The 'My Catalog.psa' file is about 600K (according to windows explorer) and resides in the 'Catalogs' folder. Also there are:
My Catalog-2.psa about 3252K
My Catalog-2.psa about 5380K
In the folder: 'Catalog Folders' were the folders:
My Catalog
My Catalog-1
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backupCt.dat 1K
collstatus.dat 1K
tagstatus.dat 1K
thumb.5.cache 10K
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tn.4.cache 32394 K
Above I say 'In the folder, Catalog Folders, were the folders My Catalog and My Catalog-1' because last night when shutting down, I didn't know what was in those folders. I was too tired to check.
I did copy everything that was in the Adobe folder and all associated sub folders, including the folders above, to an SD flash card before I started to do anything else. Becasue of this, I should be able to get back to the way it was before I started to do anything, then I opened the catalog file My Catalog-1.psa. It said that it was made from an earlier version, asked to convert it and contained the 2002 to 2004 catalog information. To the best of my knowledge, those photos were never entered in PSE5, and probably were from an earlier version of PS Album.
So, where is the information that was once in the PSE5 catalog? Which files should contain that information? Why can't the files simply be copied from the backup copies back on to the C:\ drive in the proper folders and then upon starting PSE5 see at least the catalog that was present when the copies of the files in the folders above were made? What dumb mistakes could have been made to overwrite the information in the catalog and make the catalog appear empty? If I don't learn this, I'll not be able to prevent it from happening again.
I'm not on the machine with the trouble at the moment, and since it is not my machine, I sometimes have trouble getting to it during normal waking hours. I don't know the exact clicks and keystrokes that got the catalog from its normal function to appearing and functioning as if it is empty..
What exactly are the symptoms of "PSE5 doesn't like..."? The catalog appears and functions as if it is empty - as if nothing ever has been or ever was entered into it. PSE5 Organizer is operating normally as far as I can tell. I cannot seem to locate the former catalog information and it has not loaded the former catalog file information. A new test catalog was made and it opens and shows the thumbnails of its four images. I hope that the test catalog I made didn't overwrite anything that would prevent going back to the original catalog information. The copies of the files can be restored as they were a few months ago, though, because there is a copy of them on an SD card.
Thanks,
Al
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