PSE5 in Windows 7

I had PSE5 installed in Win XP and now I have changed to a 64 bit Win 7. I have saved 2 folders from Win XP, Catalogs and Catalogs Folders. My idea was to just put these 2 folders in the same postition as before under WinXP. Problem is, when I start PSE and try to change the catalog the program crashes. Any suggestions? I have tried PSE in WinXP mode.

Hi There,
Kindly restart the machine and try to initiate the installation again.
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