QA Refresh in 2 System Landscape

Hello,
All these while I have been working on 3 system Landscape.
Now, I will be working on a 2 System Landscape. One of the 4 Clients in the DEV System is the QA Client. The other System is the PRD which just have a single client as Production.
Usually in a 3 System Landscape we do a full System Copy from PRD -> QA during Refresh.
Now, how to go ahead in a 2 System Landscape? Ofcourse I will have to do a Client Copy, but then what happens to the Client independent data and the Repository for QA?
Thanks

Thats what i told:
First export all clients from your DEv(except QAS client)
then do a system copy from PRO to DEV(here you will get PRO client into DEV)
Then import all exported clients(here you will get your all DEV clients)
Now your DEV system will have Exact copy of PRO with all other clients too.
Generally PRO client have huge data, that is not possible to do a remote client copy/client export and import.
So i suggested above method...
Regards,
Nick Loy

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Hi George, SAT, BWer,
Thanks for your messages.
George : Answers to your question:
1. Our Basis team want to copy all the configuration (related to the particular process chain only)and not Data's.
2. How to pack the process chain in a portable file and extract this file. then import it into DEV..and what is the way not to get error when doing so (knowing that fact that obejects will be different..) I don't know..whether to copy the objects are or not..
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Hello Jason & Prakhar
Thanks for your quick response. I am basis person, and configuring this change request management for one of the project.
Jason:
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C= Development (source system)
T = Quality
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Hi Experts,
we are trying to create a maintenace cycle with two systems.
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Is it possible to create a maintenace cycle for a two-system-scenario?
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Hi SDN Community,
Where I work we have a policy of refreshing the development systems (ECC, CRM, APO, BI, SRM) on an annual basis with full production system data, HR data is subsequently wiped clean from the development system.
For each of our systems we have a development system, a QA system and a production system.
The decision to do these full refreshes was taken to ensure that developers and configurers can do decent testing in the Dev environments - prior to transporting to our QA system - to ensure that we have a reasonably stable QA system. Prior to the refreshes - QA was considered too unstable by our business to be used as a good test platform - the full D refreshes solved this problem.
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How do you manage the stability of your QA environments and stop the transport into QA systems of untested changes - if your D systems are not similar to you production system
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many thanks in advance,
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Edited by: Julian Phillips on Nov 11, 2008 2:33 PM

Thanks Naushad for your reply,
I wonder if D refreshes are less common - more due to the additional hardware costs incurred (disk space needed to store full production data is usually pretty large) to do them - than due to avoiding disrupting development - probably a bit of both.
I did not mention this - but in our refresh we do reimport all transports that we open prior to the refresh - which used to solve our problems - in terms of restoring active changes - but with SAPs Charm system - this approach does not work as the Charm projects are left in an inconsistent status.
We are now leaning towards introducing a 4th set of systems into our landscape - so that we have the following platforms:
Development ---> Pre QA ---> QA ---> Production
This approach will allow us to keep both the Pre QA and QA systems refreshed every 6 months or so - and our new Dev system - we will refresh very infrequently (every 5 years perhaps) if at all. We will tie the Charm system to our new development - and this system will then not be impacted by refreshes. This approach means additional hardware cost - but as it happens we have a few spare boxes - so this maybe our best bet.
The core reason for our refresh is so that we will be able to preserve the stability of our QA test platform - which for us is the critical factor here. If QA has poorly tested work in it - we run a higher risk of disrupting other testing and also of this poorly tested work reaching production.
When we used to have a development system as you described and just the single QA box - we experienced frequent instability in our QA box - due to poorly tested working reaching it - and this delayed numerous projects.
Does anyone else have a 4 box setup like this? Anyone else encountered this on an SAP project anywhere? Pros / Cons of this approach?
//Julian
Edited by: Julian Phillips on Nov 12, 2008 8:08 AM
Edited by: Julian Phillips on Nov 12, 2008 8:18 AM

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Dear SAP Experts,
We have Two-System Landscape(DEV-PRD) Whereas cross-client data is used in both the Customizing and quality assurance clients.
Currently, our company, just merged with another non-SAP-using company. The First move is to implement FI module and subsequently, all modules that we are now using.
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I'll give good points for the help that i can get.
Best Regards,
Jay

You can do this. We currently have two Dev environments one for projects based on NetWeaver integration with our ECC systems and one for regular development / run and maintain.
I suggest doing a system copy of your development and rename the SID / hostname were it appears in the profiles and home directories for UNIX platforms. Then perform post steps for SE06, printers, profiles, RFC etc...
For Microsoft install a CI instance and do a database copy to have current data. Then do post copy steps in SAP.
Although SAP suggests not to refresh Development systems, we do it at least once a year to get current applicaiton data.
Think of it as a sandbox.
If you don't want to integrate your data with the new system, skip the database copy portion for Microsoft and do a fresh install for Unix.
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You do not have permission to view the System Landscape Directory.

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Graham:
Thank you very much for making the effort to reply to my query.
But, it still hasnt solved my problem yet.. for some reason even though I followed your instructions and did what you advised.
I have attached a screenshot of my Visual Administrator screen that you advised me to modify/change.
Here it is: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2259/screenshot002co1.jpg
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Why do we need to store the information about the installed products and to be installed products in software catalog?
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After reading few help sites, what I understand is the following:
For example SAP is a product and CRM etc are the software components. We create the technical system for this product like for client 100 we create a technical system and for client 200 we create another technical system. And we give some logical names, called business sytems, to these technical systems.
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In Integration Directory, we say that the sender is one Business System and receiver is another business system. These business system are created based on some technical systems. These technical systems are based on some software components and product. This product and the software component might be a installed or non installed product. Then how do we can get the connection between the sender and the business system? Can you please explain me the idea behind considering the sender and reciever as business systems.
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SLD:
The System Landscape Directory of SAP NetWeaver (SLD) serves as a central information repository for your system landscape. A system landscape consists of a number of hardware and software components that depend on each other with regard to installation, software updates, and demands on interfaces.
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- to tell you about the other features it has....it captures the dimensions of the system landscape like solution dimension, transport dimension and technical dimension.
- putting it in short XI IS A CLIENT OF SLD
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Or in other words Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape.
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hi,
i have also problem with "import software componenet version "
i got a message like
"unable to import software component version from
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than i gone for SLDCHECK...i got an error it is ............
calling function LCR_LIST_BUSSINESS_SYSTEM
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applied portion (PIPostInstallProcess) of OSS notes 940309 and it resolved.
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