Quicktime settings for future transcode to Blu-Ray & DVD in Encore

Hi, I'm asking this here because I think this is where the best knowledge on the subject is. I'm making a slideshow video in Fotomagico that I hope to author to Blu-Ray and DVD in Adobe Encore. I know that it will have to be transcoded in Encore so I'm wondering what will be the best output settings when I make the original video file in Quicktime. This has been created at 1920x1080, 60fps
Some specific options that have me confused:
Frame rate: leave at 60 or not. From my understanding, blu-ray 1080p is 23.97fps and DVD is 29.97?
Compression codec: Options include AIC, ProRes, MPEG-4, H-264, etc. I have no idea what will work best?
Or, should I send a file that doesn't need transcoding? Encore calls these elementary streams and apparently they have to match Blu-Ray/DVD spec and have no audio in the file. Is there a way to make this (I assume H-264 or MPEG-2) in Quicktime?
Thanks for any tips!!!

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