Ram ? for a K8N Neo 2 Platinum

hello all, got a question about PQI memory for a K8N Neo2 Platinum with a Athlon64 3500+. as of right now i have corsair pc3200llpt running and everything is great. what my question is is all the hype about the PQI timings and what not worth an upgrade? if you need more info ill be glad to post specs. any input would be most excepted

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Originally posted by Slayer88
hello all, got a question about PQI memory for a K8N Neo2 Platinum with a Athlon64 3500+. as of right now i have corsair pc3200llpt running and everything is great. what my question is is all the hype about the PQI timings and what not worth an upgrade? if you need more info ill be glad to post specs. any input would be most excepted
How fast can you run your Corsair?  I think that's the key to answering your question.
Yes the PQI is fast.  (Its no faster than any other TCCD ram, however:  Corsair XL, OCZ Rev2, G.Skill etc. - all the TCCD's offer similar performance.)
Personally I don't think the higher FSB you would get from the PQI would justify the upgrade on its own.  Running your CPU at say 8x275 compared to stock 11x200 will benchmark better, sure.  But I doubt you'd notice much speed improvements in everyday use.
Chip.

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