Raw files loosing editing information?

I edit my raw files in CS5. Then I saw as JPEG, and upload to be developed. Once the pictures are uploaded they look like I never edited them at all. What am I doing wrong. This does not happen if I edit a JPEG file. Thank you in advance...:).

To apply the edits (adjustments) to raw files, you need to actually OPEN them in Photoshop and save them in a different format. The original raw file is never touched.
If instead of cliching on the OPEN button you click on the Done or Save button in ACR, then those adjustments are only kept in a sidecar file.

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Transfer RAW File with Edited Information?

I have Lightroom on my laptop and desktop pc (Windows Vista and Windows 7 64-bit respectively). I copied some Canon CR2 RAW files to my laptop in the field and edited some of the files. Is there a way to transfer those changes, along with the files, to my desktop pc?

Presumably you have a temporary LR catalog on the LT to do your edits but your permanent catalog is on the DT?
On your LT, if you use Library / Metadata / Save Metadata to FileS (plural) with the images selected in the Library Grid view, you should get an XMP file for each CR2 file containing the snapshot of the adjustments when you do the save. Copy both the CR2 and the XMP file to your desktop, and when you import the changes will be part of the initial import state. If you have already imported the files on your DT w/o the XMPs, then remove them from the DT Library (but not disk) and reimport them after copying the XMP files over.
If this is a one-time thing then the CR2/XMP one-time transfer is ok.
Depending on what else is in your LT's LR catalog, you can export a catalog, there, with just your images and their adjustments, and import that catalog on your DT, changing the paths to the images if necessary on the DT side.
Presumably you know how to copy files (CR2s, XMPs, LRCATs) from your laptop to your desktop through a network or USB-attached drive of some sort, right?
Either of these processes is a little bit messy. If you will be doing this on an ongoing basis then think about how to make the process as simple as possible. What I do is have the LR catalog and the images (for the last year, at least) on a 1TB USB3-speed external drive that I bought at Best Buy, where the drive letter is configured to be the same on both computers I use LR on, and then I just plug in the USB-drive to whichever computer I want to use at the moment. I backup the entire contents of the drive every night to another USB3-speed drive so if I ever drop the one I'm carrying around and destroy it, then I have another copy of everything.
The initial copy took a long time but the replication of changes every night doesn't take too long. I use KarenWare's PTReplicator to schedule a replication of my Pictures folders every night at 2am. There are other similar programs to facilitate one-way replication like RoboCopy and SyncToy and DoubleTake.

Raw files loosing saturation & exposure upon import on nikon d4s & d7100 my d800 is fine

I am having trouble with lightroom 5.6 . my Nikon d4s & d7100 raw files loose saturation & exposure upon import my d800 is fine

Try changing the camera calibration profile to "camera standard" and setting that as the default (hold alt or option and click on the "set default ..." button. Also make sure you do not have dynamic lighting enabled in your camera. This underexposes the raw files and writes an instruction for Nikon software in the nef file that compensates. The result in non-Nikon software is that your files end up underexposed.

Is there any benefit to keep the RAW file after editing outside Lightroom creates a TIFF

When working with RAW files in Lightroom and you choose to edit in Photoshop, the only option is "Edit a copy with Lightroom Adjustments" (Edit Original is grayed out). This creates a .TIFF so after you come back from Photoshop you now have two copies of the photo--the RAW file and a TIFF version.
In my normal workflow, I make additional edits to the TIFF file in addition to the changes Photoshop made so I'm left with a "out dated" version of the RAW file. Is there any benefit to keeping the RAW file at that point? I'm doubling my disk usage by keeping it.
Fire away.....

Answering this question:
This got me wonderig why LR turns my 25-30mb CR2 RAW files into 80-95 mb TIFF files when it sends them to Photoshop for editing but Photoshop can open the same 25-30 RAW file in DNG format and save it as a 25-30 mb TIFF. Why are the TIFF's LR creates 3x larger than the ones created by PS?
Camera RAW file formats are compressed to a small file size using manufacturer proprietary information about the image sensor pixel layout. This provides a more efficient loss-less file compression algorithm than TIFF's LZW or ZIP compression algorithms. LZW or ZIP compression is not used when Lightroom exports and opens an image in Photoshop for editing, but you certainly have that option when saving the file after applying your PS edits. DNG files using loss-less compression can produce a file size slightly smaller than RAW format, but I have no experience with DNG.
Answering this question:
CS3 can't read Canon .CR2 RAW files (at least mine can't unless there is a plugin of some kind).
Support for newer camera models like your Canon 7D are only added to the then current (and later version) Adobe Camera RAW Converter and Lightroom. Newer Adobe Camera RAW converter versions (6.3) are not supported in older version of Photoshop like CS3. It is the nature of business marketing and also due to the large expense to support older application versions with "new" plug-in features. It would be a support nightmare!
Hypothetical Example:
"Why doesn't Adobe Camera RAW 10.3 work properly with my Canon 1600 D MK XV 45 Megapixel camera in Photoshop CS3?"

Why does my raw file show editing changes in the Organizer?

When I edit a raw (CR2) image and then save as a .tiff file and close, my original raw file also appears edited in the Organizer.
I have received advice telling me how to reset to default to get back my unedited CR2, but this is time consuming and I never had to do this in the past. How can I retain my CR2 in the Organizer after editing?

brevardlady wrote:
When I edit a raw (CR2) image and then save as a .tiff file and close, my original raw file also appears edited in the Organizer.
I suppose everyone expects the edits in the conversion of raw files to be shown in the organizer thumbnail... but that's your choice.
I have received advice telling me how to reset to default to get back my unedited CR2, but this is time consuming and I never had to do this in the past. How can I retain my CR2 in the Organizer after editing?
Instead of using 'Open', try using 'Alt Open'. The edited conversion is transferred to the editor, but the edits are not saved in the xmp sidecar filee. They are lost, and you are shown the default ACR settings, if that's what you want.

When I open several Raw files and edit one, the others disappear

Sometimes I open numerous raw files simultaneously and they appear on the left in a sidebar. Then I choose one to edit and when finished the others have disappeared and I have to load them again. Is there a keystroke that will bring them back without entirely reloading? Are they still in PSE but hidden? This seems like peculiar and poor design. (Mac version)

Using Preview is quite simple. I open the group of files I want to view and edit. I select one and drag it on top of the PSE icon in the dock, and it opens in the PSE raw editor. When I've saved the file I simply click on the Preview dock icon to return to that app. and repeat the select-and-drag to PSE. Preview provides a full screen display of file icons for the files I want to edit, so it is quite quick and transparent.
I don't necessarily want to Open a file; I might simply Save it from the raw editor. If I have 10 raw files, five of which I want to edit and Open, 3 of which I don't want to edit, and 2 of which I want to Save within the raw editor, the simplicity you describe disappears. Using my Preview-to-PSE scheme, I work on one file at a time and dispose of it when done. I don't have to keep track of which file needs what disposition, as seems to be the case in the process you describe. Please correct me where I'm mistaken.

How far does iPhoto preserve the RAW file when editing?

I'm trying to get a better understanding of how iPhoto handles RAW photos and hope you'll answer a humble, possibly misguided question:
How far through the editing process does iPhoto preserve RAW data?
Here's what I mean by this: I understand that iPhoto cannot "edit" a RAW file, but there are a couple of ways it look like it was. Let's take a WB adjustment as an example.
Option 1: "Convert on import." iPhoto converts the RAW to a JPG when I import the file (or begin to edit it). Then adjusting the WB will be a filter applied to a JPG file (meaning there wasn't much advantage to shooting RAWs in the first place)!
Option 2: "Fully RAW." iPhoto imports the RAW file and then "processes" it whenever you display or print it. When you edit it (e.g., adjusting the white balance), it keeps track of the new parameters (e.g., WB, or contrast, or cropping, etc.) and then uses these parameters the next time it processes the RAW for display. This would mean, for example, that there would be no difference in quality between
A. Taking a freshly-imported RAW and setting the white balance to X, and
B. Taking a freshly-imported RAW, setting the white balance to Y, closing iPhoto, re-opening iPhoto then editing the picture again and changing the WB to X.
Option 3: "Somewhere in-between." Files are imported as RAW, but then converted to JPG at the end of the first editing. Subsequent edits are treated as JPG edits (including the resulting loss in image quality with each edit).
Can anyone clarify this? How does the answer differ for different types of edits (e.g., WB vs. image rotation vs., expanding the highlights, etc.)? Is the answer different for Aperture vs. iPhoto?
Thanks!
-Mike

How about the 4 th option... None of the above.
Option 3 is closest. As the Help says:
When you edit a RAW-format photo and click Done, iPhoto applies your changes to the RAW image data and stores the data as a JPEG file (the original RAW file remains unchanged).
It can also be saved as tiff is you prefer.
Here's where it's different from your option 3:
Subsequent edits are treated as JPG edits (including the resulting loss in image quality with each edit)
There is no loss of image quality with each edit because of iPhoto's _[Non-Destructive Editing Feature|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=iPhoto/7.0/en/11464.html]_ .
You can, of course, re-process the RAWs if you choose. This will bring you right back to the Original file.
Aperture is quite different. It's at your option 2
Regards
TD

Converting raw files post editing

I'm new to iPhoto as I usually use Photoshop CS4...after my hard drive was replaced, CS4 would not run.
Soooooooo
After I edit a RAW file in iPhoto, how do I convert it to jpeg for sharing, storage, printing, etc?

To add to what Larry said:
The Raw workflow is like this:
Import a Raw. It's copied in as a byte by byte copy. Then a Jpeg Preview is made automatically.
Why the preview? As you know, you can't really do much with a Raw - print it, use it in a slideshow or in a document - so iPhoto creates the preview so the shot is available in other apps immediately.
When you edit the Raw your decisions are recorded in the iPhoto Database, your Raw file is untouched - just like any photo in iPhoto. The Prevew is updated with your new decisions.
If you then share the file via the Media Browsers etc, it's the Preview that get shared. You can print it from iPhoto.
Other than that you can then export it in a variety of formats - Jpeg, Tiff, Png for more varied options. You do this via the File -> Export command. This User Tip
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4921
has details of the options in the Export dialogue.
As for storing: it's stored in the iPhoto Library and permanently available.
The difference at heart here is that CS4, which you're used to, works as a file editor. iPhoto works as a non-destructive photo processor.

Massive RAW files on editing originals in Iphoto

On some occasions, but not all, when I process a RAW file and go to upload the result to Flickr, I discover it is some 4 or 5 times the size of the original RAW file, but on other occasions it isn't. This seems to repeat in certain files, if I try to redo them. Is this siomething I can work round, or isit something I am stuck with? Thanx in advance if anyone can help!
D

editing can not "change" the size of a RAW file since the original RAW file is kept and you can not edit RAW - when you edit RAW you create a new file iin either a JPEG or TIFF depending on how you have changed the default iPhoto preference settings - exactly how are you editing the RAW? In the iPhoto preferences do you have the preference to save RAW edits as TIFFs checked (betting you do) - if so uncheck it
LN

Is there a way to keep images as RAW files when editing with Photo Shop ???

The drawback I find with aperture is that when using photoshop as editor I cannot keep my raw files. They are converted to TIFFS...Is there a way that I can keep them in Raw????? Thanks!!

Your original RAW files are still there in your Aperture library in your pictures folder. Or on an external hard drive if you are referencing them.... They are never touched, you are editing a 'version' of your original RAW file.
When you export to PS Aperture creates a new 'version' of the original and exports that to PS. The file format that it returns to Aperture as, from PS, is controlled by you in Aperture preferences... > Export Tab > External Editor file format....
You can have your pictures in the format you choose. But your original RAW's are untouched.
Regards..... Gerry..

Raw files loose camera setting in ACR

Hi everyone,
I have been shooting raw (nikon d80). I used to open my raw images with acr without any problem. But lately the acr wont read my camera settings.
I opened my raw file in window viewfinder and it has my camera settings just ACR seems to strip them.
How can I fix the ACR?
thank you

Which "camera settings" are you referring to? CR will read the "as shot" white balance setting from the camera, but nothing else (e.g., Picture Control, sharpening, etc.).
Eric

Moving RAW files from one drive to another without loosing all your work in Lightroom

I am posting this for two reasons, the first is I have been trying to figure out how to get my raw files off my hard drive & onto my external hardrive for ages, as my laptop is filling up & slowing down with the huge files my new camera captures. I have been researching this & have found it hard to find a clear answer to my particular problem using Windows 7 not a Mac.
After loosing some files in Lightroom when I moved them within Explorer instead of Lightroom, & being unable to figure out how to add a new drive in the Library module in Lightroom to move them to, I wanted to make sure I got it right when I moved the lot of them. I finally figured out a way, it might be round about, but it got it done without any trouble.
This is how I moved my files:
In Windows Explorer I moved one folder which Lightroom uses, from my laptop to the drive I want to store them all on from now on.
Then in Lightroom, under 'Library' (along the top, eg 'File' 'Edit' 'Library' etc) I selected 'Find missing photos' & led Lightroom to the new location. Now my external hd as well as my laptop hd was listed under 'Folders' (on the Left hand side of the screen along with 'Navigator' 'Catalog' 'Folders' etc) in the Library module.
After that it was simple. Just a matter of dragging & dropping from my C drive (laptop)to my G drive (external hd) while in Lightroom; Library module. This way Lightroom keeps track of where the files are stored & nothing is lost.
From now on I will be importing raw files from my camera to my external hd & working on them all from there.
If anyone has a simpler way please share it. I am very new at this & don't profess to be an expert. So any advice would be greatly appreciated
The second reason for this post is that I'd like to know how to make sure that the adjustments made in Lightroom are stored on the external hd as well, incase anything happens to the laptop?
Is exporting the catalogue what I need to do?
Or can I back up the Lightroom adjustments to my external hd somehow?
OR when I moved the raw files did this information move with them?
I understand that my raw files are the original unaltered files & that the changes made in Lightroom are recorded seperately & applied in Lightroom itself..... Well, that's what I think I know about how it all works after a few months of using it, so please forgive me if I'm missing something & I'll be very happy to be enlightened if you'd be so kind
Happy New Year to you all!

All the adjustments are stored in the catalog (not in the file). So you want to back it up, and the external is a good place. In the catalog settings (Edit > Catalog Settings > General) there is an option to set a regular backup schedule, and you'll be asked where you want to put it.
The backup is just a regular copy of the catalog, and you can simply launch Lightroom from that, by double-clicking it.
The image files themselves should also be backed up of course, but that's outside Lightroom.

How can I import an Aperture Catalog into Lightroom and retain the RAW file as well as the files with the edits?

I have several catalogs in Aperture that I would like to import to Lightroom 5 and I want to retain the original RAW files as well as the files with the edits. How can I do this?

Well, you can bring in the raw file (without edits), and you can bring in a rendered RGB file (e.g. jpeg or tiff) with edits baked in, but what you CAN'T do is bring in a raw file, with the non-destructive Aperture edits, and have Lr translate those Aperture edits into Lightroom edits.
Put another way: no raw converter/editor can understand the edits of any other raw converter/editor. So, you have to work with a rendered version, and/or re-edit from scratch in a new raw converter/editor.
PS - it would be feasible to write a rough translator which approximated raw edits in one world into edits in another, but such does not exist yet for Aperture -> Lightroom, that I know of.

Photoshop cc is turning my raw files into jpg after editing

photoshop is turning my raw files into jpg after editing with out flatten the layers instead of psd files. when I go to save they are jpg. This started 2 days ago - no problems before that

How are you doing the save? Just choosing File - Save?
Photoshop remembers the last "master file" format you saved something in. If the current document is capable of being saved in that format, it will default to that format for the next save.
What happens if you do the following:
1. Open your raw file, and edit it.
2. File - Save As, and in the Save as type field choose Photoshop (*.PSD;*.PDD).
3. Complete the save operation.
I'm betting that will result in your having saved a PSD format file.
In summary, change your habit to use File - Save As to save your master document and you can't go wrong.
-Noel

Edited RAW files used to make a photo book

I am posting a question that I mistakenly posted in the wrong support community.
I have photos in both RAW and JPEG format. I know that when a RAW file is edited it is saved as a JPEG. I noticed that the size of the edited RAW file is often smaller than the same JPEG photo. (Sometimes it's up to 2MB or more difference.) Believing that a larger size photo has more detail do you recommend using one file format over the other (edited RAW v. JPEG) to create an iBook? What is the smallest size photo recommended for a photobook?
I use iPhoto'11.
Thanks.

I know that when a RAW file is edited it is saved as a JPEG.
It's not since iPhoto 08. When you process a Raw the decisions you make are recorded in the database and a Preview is made. This preview is what's used in Media Browsers and the like - essentially any time you share a photo except via File -> Export. But the edits are never fixed or committed.
I noticed that the size of the edited RAW file is often smaller than the same JPEG photo. (Sometimes it's up to 2MB or more difference.)
That's the difference between the camera's jpeg and the iPhoto Preview. The Preview is a medium quality version - a sort of "good for most things" version. If you export you can create much bigger files.
Believing that a larger size photo has more detail
Not necessarily so... It is less compressed, that's all.
do you recommend using one file format over the other (edited RAW v. JPEG) to create an iBook?
THere's no right answer. No matter what, you can't print the Raw so it's either going to be the camera Jpeg or one created by iPhoto from the Raw. If you don't want to process the image yourself or if you feel what you can do wuth the image is not better than the camera, it might be worth asking yourself why you're shooting Raw at all? And if you feel that what you do with the Raw is better than the camera creates, you might ask yourself why you're shooting the Jpeg at all.
What will print best is the best shot, regardless of whether the camera processed it or you did.

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