Re. 10.4.11 Combo Update / additional unintended consequences?

I'm making this a new post since the previous one on a related topic was answered. That post was intended to clarify whether the file mDNSResponder, having been moved out of /usr/sbin, would be replaced by a new mDNSResponder in /usr/sbin when applying the 10.4.11 Combo Update. The answer was positive. Here is the link to that thread.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1666714&tstart=15
In that thread Michael Conniff said that, "Yes the Combo will supersede all the other changes."
Two further questions, then, have occurred to me. The Combo Update from 11/14/07 included Safari 3.0. Since the Combo Update supersedes "all the other changes," will that mean my Safari, currently 3.1.2, will be replaced by the older 3.0 version? And, since Apple states the update includes "recent" security changes, does that mean I will lose all the security updates I have installed from whatever the version was in the Combo through Update 2008-005?
Will there be any other unintended consequences similar to those above? Thanks in advance for help on this.

Bummer!
Wouldn't it be nice if Apple updated the update! I know all that stuff can be reinstalled, but I've held my breath through the last batch of security updates. No problems resulted, but it's not the most relaxing experience I can think of. At this point I'm leaning towards, "if it aint broken...." It's just that all the OS updates from 10.4.4 on were done on an extremely crowded 10GB drive where I would have to force shutdown from an endless grey screen after restart. But worked fine after that. And clone to external and back to new bigger HD with CCC would have defragmented everything .
Will start a new thread if necessary but, as I've got your attention, can you recommend a good intermediate through advanced book on Tiger?
Thanks for answer on update question.

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    Installed the update above after software update check. On restart the Imac stops witth a black screen and the fan going at full speed. The "on" light is lit.
    I have done the following actions:
    1. started from the installer that came with the computer (Mac s 10.3)
    repaired permissions. repaired disk.
    2. Installed system 10.3 again.Works fine.
    trashed many files to make 18 GB free space on the hard disk.
    3. Upgraded to Tiger 10.4. Works fine.
    4. repaired permissons again.
    5 . Did another Software update download and install of the Combo update.
    6. Result: black screen, fan going at full, "on " light on.
    Any good advice ?

    Good advice?
    There are no guarantees, but following this procedure when installing updates and upgrades on your Mac, or even re-installing them, will go a long way towards avoiding unpleasant after effects and ‘post-update stress disorder’.
    It is also worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
    So before you do anything else:
    If you can, make a full backup first.
    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
    At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
    3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site. If your car runs on gasoline you would not want to fill the tank with diesel, so don’t try to install the PPC updater on an Intel Mac!
    The 10.4.11 Combo Updater for PPC Macs is here: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eppc.html
    And for Intel Macs: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eintel.html
    If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
    More information on using Software Updater here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1338
    Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.4.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them 10.4.10. compliant. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
    N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
    Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    If you are updating Safari (or just have):
    Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari. Remember: Tiger up to 10.4.10 used Safari 2.0.4 or, if you downloaded it, Safari 3.0.3 beta. Safari 10.4.11 used Safari 3.0.4 which was not a beta. If Safari 3.1.2 on 10.4.11 is not the fastest browser you have ever used, then something is wrong!
    Moreover, trying to revert to Safari 3.0.4 (or worse still, version 2) when running 10.4.11 or 10.5 can have repercussions, as Safari 3.1.1 uses a completely different webkit on which other applications like iChat, Mail and Dashboard Widgets etc also rely, and may entail you having to reinstall an earlier operating system.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party ad-on. Two such add-on that have been frequently mentioned here for causing such problems are Piclens and Pithhelmet. If you have them, trash them.
    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
    To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
    Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
    • /Library/InputManagers
    • ~/Library/InputManagers
    especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

  • Whats the difference between a combo update and using software update?

    I keep my Macbook up to date by checking regularly via software update, so far with no mishaps, but I have seen people on these forums mentioning that a it is better to download the combo updates direct from Apples website. Is this true, if so why, and what is the difference? I am thinking of installing Leopard which would then probably need updating to the current version, so what is the correct way of doing this?

    There are no guarantees, but following this procedure when installing updates and upgrades on your Mac, or even re-installing them, will go a long way towards avoiding unpleasant after effects and ‘post-update stress disorder’.
    It is also worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
    So before you do anything else:
    If you can, make a full backup first.
    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
    At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
    3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site. If your car runs on gasoline you would not want to fill the tank with diesel, so don’t try to install the PPC updater on an Intel Mac!
    The 10.4.11 Combo Updater for PPC Macs is here: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eppc.html
    And for Intel Macs: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eintel.html
    If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
    More information on using Software Updater here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1338
    Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.4.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
    N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
    Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    If you are updating Safari (or just have):
    Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari. Remember: Tiger up to 10.4.10 used Safari 2.0.4 or, if you downloaded it, Safari 3.0.3 beta. Safari 10.4.11 used Safari 3.0.4 which was not a beta. If Safari 3.1.2 on 10.4.11 is not the fastest browser you have ever used, then something is wrong!
    Moreover, trying to revert to Safari 3.0.4 (or worse still, version 2) when running 10.4.11 or 10.5 can have repercussions, as Safari 3.1.1 uses a completely different webkit on which other applications like iChat, Mail and Dashboard Widgets etc also rely, and may entail you having to reinstall an earlier operating system.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party ad-on. Two such add-on that have been frequently mentioned here for causing such problems are Piclens and Pithhelmet. If you have them, trash them.
    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
    To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
    Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
    • /Library/InputManagers
    • ~/Library/InputManagers
    especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

  • Safari won't open after 10.6.8 combo update, Yosemite won't download.

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    Problem already solved! Found a existing thread with the same issue!

  • MacOSX 10.4.11 Combo Update (PPC):IMPOSSIBLE; I NEED "TIPS" FOR MY SUICIDE!

    For the last 4 weeks, day after day, i try to update, but it s totaly impossible!
    I have set my IMac 10.4.6 PPC perfectly (energie saving off, automatic update download on, all keys acces open, etc., ...), but even if its seems to work, nothing appenend!!!
    *(?&%&#$?#%*&&?#?#@$!!!
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    Just to add to BDAqua's excellent advice:
    There are no guarantees, but following this procedure when installing updates and upgrades on your Mac, or even re-installing them, will go a long way towards avoiding unpleasant after effects and ‘post-update stress disorder’.
    It is also worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
    So before you do anything else:
    If you can, make a full backup first to an external hard disk. Ideally you should always have a bootable clone of your system that enables you to revert to the previous pre-update state.
    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
    At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
    3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site. If your car runs on gasoline you would not want to fill the tank with diesel, so don’t try to install the PPC updater on an Intel Mac!
    The 10.4.11 Combo Updater for PPC Macs is here: http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_4_11_Combo_Update__PPC
    And for Intel Macs: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eintel.html
    If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
    Full details about the 10.4.11 update here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
    More information on using Software Updater here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
    Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.4.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
    N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
    Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    If you are updating Safari (or just have):
    Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari. Remember: Tiger up to 10.4.10 used Safari 2.0.4 or, if you downloaded it, Safari 3.0.3 beta. Safari 10.4.11 used Safari 3.0.4 which was not a beta. If Safari 3.1.2 on 10.4.11 is not the fastest browser you have ever used, then something is wrong!
    Moreover, trying to revert to Safari 3.0.4 (or worse still, version 2) when running 10.4.11 or 10.5 can have repercussions, as Safari 3.1.1 uses a completely different webkit on which other applications like iChat, Mail and Dashboard Widgets etc also rely, and may entail you having to reinstall an earlier operating system.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party ad-on. Two such add-on that have been frequently mentioned here for causing such problems are Piclens and Pithhelmet. If you have them, trash them.
    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
    To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
    Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
    • /Library/InputManagers
    • ~/Library/InputManagers
    especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

  • Can't start OS after 10.4.11 combo update (PPC)

    During 10.4.11 combo update it stopped with an error. It didn't look to be a problem since my system was running and I just close the update and continued using my mac.
    However, when I decided to restart my system, it won't stat just showing the gray display with the Apple logo and the spinning wheel.
    Safe boot didn't work. It shutdowns.
    /sbin/fsck -fy doesn't complete successfully.
    I'm traveling overseas and I don't have the system DVD with me nor my external hard drive with my backup.
    What are my options if I have any.

    General advice on updating:
    It is worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
    So before you do anything else:
    If you can, make a full backup first to an external hard disk. Ideally you should always have a bootable clone of your system that enables you to revert to the previous pre-update state.
    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
    At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
    3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site. If your car runs on gasoline you would not want to fill the tank with diesel, so don’t try to install the PPC updater on an Intel Mac!
    The 10.4.11 Combo Updater for PPC Macs is here: http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_4_11_Combo_Update__PPC
    And for Intel Macs: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eintel.html
    If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
    Full details about the 10.4.11 update here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
    More information on using Software Updater here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
    Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.4.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications and turn off energy saving and screensaver.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
    N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
    Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    If you are updating Safari (or just have):
    Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari. Remember: Tiger up to 10.4.10 used Safari 2.0.4 or, if you downloaded it, Safari 3.0.3 beta. Safari 10.4.11 used Safari 3.0.4 which was not a beta. If Safari 3.1.2 on 10.4.11 is not the fastest browser you have ever used, then something is wrong!
    Moreover, trying to revert to Safari 3.0.4 (or worse still, version 2) when running 10.4.11 or 10.5 can have repercussions, as Safari 3.1.1 uses a completely different webkit on which other applications like iChat, Mail and Dashboard Widgets etc also rely, and may entail you having to reinstall an earlier operating system.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party ad-on. Two such add-on that have been frequently mentioned here for causing such problems are Piclens and Pithhelmet. If you have them, trash them.
    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
    To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
    Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
    • /Library/InputManagers
    • ~/Library/InputManagers
    especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

  • Re. 10.4.11 Combo Update

    I want to install the 10.4.11 PPC Combo Update. However, mDNSResponder has been moved from /sbin to Users on my computer in order to disable Bonjour.
    Will applying the Combo Update reinstall mDNSResponder to /sbin? If so, would I just move it out again (leaving two mDNSResponder files in Users?) Any other unintended consequences? Nothing else in Root has been changed.

    WZZZ wrote:
    I never saw -r-xr-xr-x. Don't know what it means; is that part of the file name?
    No, that's the standard Unix permissions for the file (I got the information from the Receipts, which is what OS X uses to repair permissions).
    … am doing the Combo to be sure I got everything
    Yes the Combo will supercede all the other changes.
    Anyway. just to be certain, you say, "well, yes...." This means I'll get a new mDNSResponder file back in /usr/sbin, and I'll have to move it out again?
    Correct.
    If I may, one more quick question about the Combo update. I'm assuming it wont restore anything to default, that all the user preferences will remain intact. Is that right?
    This is also correct. The update shouldn't affect anything in the Users folder(s).

  • MAC OS 10.5.8 Combo update installation probs

    Hi!!
    I'm trying to update my mac with the new software update, but unfortunately, it can't seem to finish installing. im stuck in the "configuring installation" part. i left the computer for two hours hoping that it would continue with the installation, but it didn't.
    what seemed to be problem? do i have to redownload the update?

    There are no guarantees, but following this procedure when installing updates and upgrades on your Mac, or even re-installing them, will go a long way towards avoiding unpleasant after effects and ‘post-update stress disorder’.
    It is also worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
    So before you do anything else:
    If you can, make a full backup first to an external hard disk. Ideally you should always have a bootable clone of your system that enables you to revert to the previous pre-update state.
    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
    At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
    3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site.
    The Combo updater of Leopard 10.5.8 can be found here:
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_5_8_ComboUpdate
    If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
    Full details about the 10.5.8 update here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3606
    More information on using Software Updater here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
    Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.4.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.5.7 to 10.5.8. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
    N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
    Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    If you are updating Safari (or just have):
    Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party add-on.
    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
    To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
    Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
    • /Library/InputManagers
    • ~/Library/InputManagers
    especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

  • 10.4.6 Combo Update has slowed my  iMac G5

    Hi,
    Ever since I installed the Mac OS X 10.4.6 Combo Update, my iMac G5 (Rev B) seems to be running very slow!! For e.g., when I restart my Mac, the grey spinning ball appears on the blue background for 20-25 minutes.
    Additional info: I generally connect a 200 GB Seagate HDD via USB to my Mac.
    I have repaired permissions but no help!!
    Any other "speed-up" tips?
    Please advise,
    Thanks in Advance,
    Suddha

    Some of these steps are of questionable value. Erase w/zero is a security function & applies to volumes, not drives. As such, it doesn't "zero" the drive in any special way, nor are zeros in volume data any safer than any other data pattern if file system errors occur.
    If you really want to start fresh, select the Partition option in Disk Utility & reformat it with the "Partition" button. This will rewrite the boot partition info, partition scheme, etc. Be sure to check the "Option" button to make sure you choose the scheme appropriate for your Mac, in this case Apple Partition Map.
    It is not necessary to keep your startup drive below 50% usage for good performance. There is some small advantage to keeping individual, very large files (such as video clips of several GB or more) on another drive, but in general, as long as 10-15% or at least 5-7 GB are free on the boot drive, there is little to be gained from a performance standpoint by freeing up more space on it.
    The same is true of the clone/reclone step, which is a way to defragment a volume. Tiger does this by itself for smaller files, so unless you have a lot of the large ones mentioned above on the drive, you won't see much if any improvement in responsiveness, particularly with a fast SATA drive like in your iMac.
    In this case, the cache cleaning & related steps in Onyx or a similar utility will probably do what you want, together with trashing any prefs for apps that continue to be sluggish & avoiding any login items from third party sources until you get things humming along smoothly.
    It is better to try one thing at a time & see if it makes any difference rather than trying the "shotgun" approach, since pinpointing the source of the problem is the best way to prevent it from reoccurring.

  • Are combo updates totally independent on more recent non system updates?

    Hi everyone!
    Would reapplying the 10.5.7 combo update switch back to safari 3.2.3 (which was included in 10.5.7), when you already have safari 4 installed?
    And if so, would safari 4 (and every update that came after the combo) show up in software update again, even though a receipt for it already exists in /Library/Receipts?
    So are combo system updates totally independent on more recent non system updates, or would it mix up things (there was also additional RAW image support in the 10.5.7 combo and later came" Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update 2.6")?
    Just generally interested, what really happens, if reapplying the combo for possible troubleshoot is ever needed.
    Any Top User? : )

    steko wrote:
    Hi everyone!
    Would reapplying the 10.5.7 combo update switch back to safari 3.2.3 (which was included in 10.5.7), when you already have safari 4 installed?
    no.
    And if so, would safari 4 (and every update that came after the combo) show up in software update again, even though a receipt for it already exists in /Library/Receipts?
    So are combo system updates totally independent on more recent non system updates, or would it mix up things (there was also additional RAW image support in the 10.5.7 combo and later came" Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update 2.6")?
    Just generally interested, what really happens, if reapplying the combo for possible troubleshoot is ever needed.
    reapplying combo update will not affect any other updates. they are independent.
    Any Top User? : )

  • HT2405 unable to install mac 10.5.5 combo update after downloading when i do restart it stop.

    hey  i am not able to install mac os x update combine on my mac after i  installed new date os on my mac. so kindly help me regarding this.

    Some general advice on updating Leopard:
    It is worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
    So before you do anything else:
    If you can, make a full backup first to an external hard disk. Ideally you should always have a bootable clone of your system that enables you to revert to the previous pre-update state.
    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
    At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
    3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site.
    The Combo updater of Leopard 10.5.8 can be found here:
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Combo_Update
    If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
    Full details about the 10.5.8 update here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3606
    More information on using Software Updater here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
    Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.5.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.5.7 to 10.5.8. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications and turn off energy saving and screensaver.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious! In fact a second restart can be recommended.
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a week or two while you regularly check their websites for updates.
    N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
    Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    [b]If you are updating Safari (or just have):[/b]
    Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up.  If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very [i]first[/i] thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party add-on.
    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
    To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for  problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
    Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
    /Library/InputManagers
    ~/Library/InputManagers
    especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).
    Solutions for troubleshooting installation, startup, and login issues in Mac OS X v10.5
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1541?viewlocale=en_US

  • Hangs at boot after 10.5.8 combo update

    hi all,
    i just updated from 10.5.1 to 10.5.8 with the combo update. it now will just hang at the apple logo. i have a dual boot on the same drive with 10.4.11 thus i am able to post this.. disk utility finds no errors. reinstalling is last resort..
    see my sig for computer specs.
    thx in advanced

    Some general advice on updating:
    It is worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
    So before you do anything else:
    If you can, make a full backup first to an external hard disk. Ideally you should always have a bootable clone of your system that enables you to revert to the previous pre-update state.
    Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
    Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
    2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
    At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
    3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site.
    The Combo updater of Leopard 10.5.8 can be found here:
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_5_8_ComboUpdate
    If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
    Full details about the 10.5.8 update here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3606
    More information on using Software Updater here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US
    Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.5.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.5.7 to 10.5.8. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
    Now proceed as follows:
    4. Close all applications and turn off energy saving and screensaver.
    5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
    6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
    7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
    8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
    If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious! In fact a second restart can be recommended.
    9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them compliant with the latest version of your operating system. Give them a week or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 4.
    N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
    Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
    If you are updating Safari (or just have):
    Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
    So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari.
    Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party add-on.
    Additional tips on software installation here:
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
    To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
    Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
    • /Library/InputManagers
    • ~/Library/InputManagers
    especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

  • OS X Updates: Software Update vs. Combo Updater

    I had many problems after updating to OS 10.4.10, so I took my laptop to the local Apple Store. Interestingly, the Genius there said to USE the update from Software Update and NOT use the COMBO updater as most of use seem to do. His reasoning was, "When you use the combo updater, it erases and changes too many things in your system. If you use the Software Update Option, it will give you just what you need." It seems more people on these forums, recommend the opposite. Ideas?
    Thanks.

    mattn wrote:
    Wildly bad reasoning. There are two different issues here, and your so-called Genius has confused them.
    The argument "it changes too many things vs. it will give you just what you need" is arguing between using the DELTA updater and the COMBO updater. It has nothing to do with whether you use Software Update.
    The issue there is whether to use Software Updater or to do the download and installation yourself. The latter is preferable, whether you do the delta or the combo. That's because with the latter, you can control what's running and what you're doing at the time of installation. Software Update can be run while you're doing all kinds of other stuff, and that is the usual cause of errors and failures and bad outcomes. If you download and install it yourself, you can do the installation while you are running no other apps (preferably in Safe mode) and get a nice clean installation.
    It is possible for users to mess things up by running Software Update in the background, or by manually installing from the Combo while other stuff is running.
    For very knowledgeable users, the Combo should be a good approach, maybe overkill, but it should be safe and it has the advantage of filling in additional things that might be amiss. However for more typical users who aren't as into these details (which includes the majority of "civilians" that I know), it is a whole lot easier to run Software Update than to go through a bunch of manual steps any number of which might be executed incorrectly by inexperienced people. That may be why the Genius was discouraging the manual Combo approach, which should work fine for experienced users -- but I would bet that the Genius service centers see more problems caused by users doing things themselves versus allowing the Apple tools (Software Update) figure out what to install. Another set of glitches can result from not installing things in the right order, and some people don't appreciate that certain system and security updates need to be installed in a specific order.
    A typical user is my daughter's 15-yr old friend down the street who just got a new MacBook. She would have no idea about Combo Updates, when to do them, Safe Mode or any of that, but she can certainly understand quitting all programs and then hitting the software update button (or quitting all programs when an update pops up and offers itself).
    An experienced power user will probably always be fine with the Combo approach, but I'd bet the vast majority of Mac consumers would be better up with Software Update (in fact 99% of them do use Software Update). An anecdotal point on this -- my employer has more than 4000 Macs in use by scientists and engineers working on the space program ... these Macs come from our IT dept pre-configured to run Software Update every Friday morning. I once asked them if they get more service calls on Fridays, they said they almost never get service calls for the Macs, on Fridays or any other days.

  • Stuck iMac during 10.6.2 to 10.6.8 OS combo update

    Dear community,
    I recently had to wipe out an iMac HDD and reinstall the OS. The install DVD contained OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.2, and I wished to upgrade to Mavericks (10.9) by doing an intermediate update to 10.6.8, as required by the new OS installer.
    After a successful disk erase & OS installation from DVD, I tried to update the OS by using the 10.6.8 Combo update http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1399, which was located on an external hard drive. Just before finishing the update, the screen went black and there was no way to recover the system. Fan and internal HDD were both spinning, so the system was stuck for an unknown reason.
    After waiting for 15 minutes, I decided to switch off the computer manually with the power button, and since then the iMac won't boot any more. Here's a list of what I tried:
    - Boot from cd ("C" during startup): impossible, another disc is currently in the drive, and can't eject it
    - Safe mode: won't load in 30 minutes, I guess it won't load at all
    - Reset NVRAM: no effect
    - Single user mode:
          - "fsck -fy": no effect, volume is OK;
          - reinstalling the updates from within su mode "softwareupdate -i -a" (hoping to reinstall it and get rid of the possible crap): impossible, there is no network connection.
    Any help would be very welcome

    Thanks for the hint, I managed to eject the disc holding the mouse click and inserted the OS DVD.
    This doesn't solve the problem though, I can't boot from it (holding "C" has no effect, nor has the "Alt" key).
    Reading the verbose boot output, things seem pretty bad:
    jnl: unknown-dev replay_journal: from some_decimal: to some_other_decimal (joffset some_hexadecimal)
    jnl: unknown-dev replay_journal done.
    Maybe broken filesystem, but I can't explain why external boot mode doesn't work…

  • Installed 10.6.8 Server Combo Update, but can't update Server Tools to 10.6.8?

    Hello all,
    I installed the 10.6.8 combo update for my xserve earlier today. I also need to update the server tools to 10.6.8 since I am trying to create a new NetInstall image from a .dmg that is running 10.6.8.
    The server tools update has always shown up in the past in Software Update, but I didn't see it this time around so I went and found what looks like the download link for it: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1403.
    Anyway, I get it downloaded and go to install it, and it says my Server HD does not have Mac OS X installed, and it will not install the update.
    I have the 10.6.8 Server Tools installed on my imagebuilder, but it isn't setup with the right workflow and it would be a hassle to get that going.
    Has anyone else had any problems getting the 10.6.8 server tools installed on their xserve?

    @m.mills: I'd be interested to see what your workflow looks like for your image using the 10.6.7 SIU on 10.6.8 Server? I have been struggling trying to get NetInstall or NetRestore to work using this tool. For NetRestore, it tries to install on the MBP, but fails after a minute or two with this error:
    Unable to set '10.6' as boot disk: The bless tool was unable to set the current boot disk."
    I am using the 10.6 retail DVD as source. I have a very basic workflow:
    * source DVD 10.6
    * Enable Automated Intall; install to volume name: 10.6, erase before installing
    * Apply System Configuration Settings - (apply computer name and local hosts setting)
    * Add 10.6.8 combo pkg
    * Create image
    I also have a machine running 10.7 Server and have successfully created a 10.7.2 image, but 10.6.8 has been giving me fits. It would be nice if I could create a 10.6.8 image on the 10.7 server. Is it possible to do this?
    Any Help is appreciated.
    thx

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