Re: Forte /FileNet integration
Hi Jelic,
We, at the County of Alameda, are using Forte and FileNet for some time
now.
As I was not clear on what specific interface issues you are dealing with I
thought it is a good idea to decribe what we are doing and hopefully that
may answer some of your questions.
For now, we are using FileNet's workflo language i.e. WFL scripts for
interfacing with FileNet.
The interfacing issues are :
1. Logon to FileNet on the client (Win95)
For logging on to FileNet we are currently using a C program which is
launched by our Forte application and is passed the Username, Password.
This program gets the window handle of the Logon Window and pokes in the
username and password in the respective fields and logs on. Its a hack but
it works well.
2. Display Images in FileNet's Image viewer - we use Windows DDE.
3. Indexing of documents both scanned and generated.
We have a document generation system which uses a FileNet macro for MS-Word
to save a document to FileNet. We also use FileNet's Scanning software to
scan documents. Both of these use a barcode to facilitate indexing. The
Indexer Program written in Forte launches a WFL script to get the
barcode/docID pairs from FileNet's distributor queues and indexes it with
the application database. It also laucnhes another WFL script which removes
the entries from the distributor queues and puts it into a error queue if
it was not indexed.
Going forward, we are now working on using WAL API to interface with
FileNet.
1. For FileNet Logon and Display : we plan to wrap C calls implemented as
DLL functions.
2. For the Indexer program too, we plan to wrap all calls we need in C
implemented as a DLL. Since the WAL API is available for Unix (HP_UX in our
case) we may create a library on Unix and run the Indexer Application as a
service object instead. This is one of the reasons we are not considering
using ActiveX.
Hope this helps.
Nitish Khanapure
Sage I.T. Partners
(415) 3927243 x313
Email : [email protected]
From: Jelic, Nenad <[email protected]>
To: 'Harry Richards' <[email protected]>; ', [email protected]'
<,[email protected]>
Cc: Ngai, Stuart <[email protected]>; Low, Louis
<[email protected]>; Jelic, Nenad <[email protected]>; Kapauan,
David <[email protected]>; '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Forte /FileNet integration
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 12:04 PM
Thank you for quick response. We are using
VB app with ActiveX controls and FileNet Image viewer(connected through
DDE) = CLIENT
accsessing FileNet IMS and Oracle DB = SERVER that is working very well
VB App + FileNet ActiveX Controls (client)
<------------TCP/IP-----------> FileNetIMS + ORACLE (server)
POINT 1:
Our intend is to replace VB App (written by somebody else) with Forte.
I've got tech. notes (SMALL prototype) from Forte consultant (Valerie
Limpan)how to implement ActiveX controls on server side because we don't
like to use ActiveX on each desktop, only on server side. But this is
not so common(Forte recommends using ActiveX controls with window
classes on client side) and I am afraid to go with a real BIG project
using something that is not proven very well ?
Forte(Client) <-----> Forte + FileNet ActiveX Controls(server1)
<------------TCP/IP-----------> FileNetIMS + ORACLE(server2)
POINT 2:
Probably, we can use WAL(C libraries) instead ActiveX controls, but from
pdf files I can not find any example. 1300 pages. Do I have to print all
of this to get better understandig ?
POINT 3:
Also, Is FileNet willing to support us using ActiveX controls inside
Forte dev. enviroment and other way round?
POINT 4:
Is FileNet Panagan suite of products will make any difference to our
problem ?
Sorry if some of this statement are wrong. My experience with both
products is limited, but not with ActiveX and OO.
Again, thank you for your quick response. May be this more detail
explanation will help you to find some answers.
Regards,
Dr. Nenad Jelic
(416)359-6560
From: Harry Richards[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:36 AM
To: Jelic, Nenad
Subject: Re: Forte /FileNet integration
I have just joined Forté from FileNET and so have a view on both
technologies, although I have not actually done any integration work.
Which
filenet products are you working with ?
You will find that both CSC and Sage, who host this mail forum are
involved
with or have already completed some integration with various filenet
products.
Regards,
Harry Richards
At 10:01 AM 2/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
We are trying to integrate Forte with FileNet software. Any experincein
real projects?
Using FileNet or any other ActiveX controls on server side ispossible,
but is not so common.
Regards,
Dr. Nenad Jelic(416)359-6560
[email protected]
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From: David Campbell[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 2:08PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Development tools
Hi all,
We are about to embark on a sizable Forte development and are interested
in hearing from anybody who has successfully used automated test tools
with Forte. Also, does anybody know of a problem tracking tool that can
be linked to the Forte source repository for the purpose of tracking the
status software bugs, fixes etc.
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From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]]
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From: Massimiliano Delsante [mailto:delsanteotconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 9:54 AM
To: BOLIVARD Kenny; forte-userslists.xpedior.com
Subject: (forte-users) R: (forte-users) ASP and Forté
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To: <forte-userslists.xpedior.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 8:43 AM
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connu.
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De: Thomas Felix [mailto:tfelixaxialog.fr]
Date: mardi 2 mai 2000 14:14
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Objet: (forte-users)
bonjour a tous
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that we use for the developpement ?
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CORBA/IIOP?
Message Oriented Middleware?Hi,
I have used MQSeries and CICS Client. They worked well, except that CICS Client
is for little applications... Tuxedo has also good reputation.
You should also consider a lower protocol like TCP/IP. I use it in synchrone and
asynchrone to support an application protocol with external connections. It
works very well. For instance, It can be an alternative to connected
environments, even for Forte Partitions (for example : you need to connect
several thousands of Forte clients without having to maintain your central
environment).
For asynchrone communcation, and low cost and equipment (external clients, B to
B, etc...) you can also use SMTP with external connections. If you use MIME base
64, you can also transfer serialized objects for instance. Then you can use SMTP
like VMS Mailbox (in old times). Be aware, of course, that you will not have any
delivery warranty on your messages, so you should take care about this on your
protocol.
Hope this helps,
Daniel Nguyen
Freelance Forte Consultant
Edward.CarmodyLibertyMutual.com a écrit:
I was wondering what architectures folks have been using to do Forte
application to Forte application integration on the client and at the server
level?
connected environments?
CORBA/IIOP?
Message Oriented Middleware?
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R: (forte-users) ASP and Forté
Hi Kenny,
I suggest you to use XML in order to publish your Forté services.
There is a Forté Library called HTTPDC that let you start up a listener that
answer to HTTP Request.
So you will have a ASP/Forté integration via HTTP/XML
Hope this helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: BOLIVARD Kenny <BOLIVARDPREVIADE.FR>
To: <forte-userslists.xpedior.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 8:43 AM
Subject: (forte-users) ASP and Forté
Hi everybody!
I'm a new Forté developer, so i have some question about it, speciallyone:
I want to access Forté service objects through an ASP script. To be more
precise, I want to get back some informations (like, for exemple, the
information of a customer's account) from the Forté world and to make-upthe
web page in my ASP script.
Is it possible writing an ASP script (in VisualBasic for example) witch
calls Forté service objects?
How can I do that? Maybe by using Web Enterprise's libraries, but itseems
to me that Web access service objet returns only HTLM pages.
Any suggestions and explanations would be appreciated.
Thank's in advance for your replies,
Kenny,
PREVIADE.
France.
Ps: Sorry for my bad english. ;))
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Daniel Nguyen a écrit:
Hi,
Use the Notication patner. You can find a sample and some explanation on
http://perso.club-internet.fr/dnguyen/
Hope this helps,
Daniel Nguyen
DARTIGUENAVE Antoine a écrit:
Bonjour,
la gestion d'un cache de données de référence dans une application TP
serveur permet le raffraichissement
du cache quand l'appli a signifié un update .
Or un batch ( appli distincte ) mettra aussi à jour ces données.
Comment signifier à l'IHM qu'une donnée a été updatée ce qui lui permettra
de rafraichir le cache à la lecture ?
merci d'avance pour toute idée sur ce sujet !
Antoine Dartiguenave
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I'm interested on the future of Fortè
I've heard that iPlanet (the new application server of SUN) does not support
forte and does not intend to do it.
So I'm wandering where Fortè will go.
I hoped to see Fortè integrating with Java and hoped that SUN wuold have given a
strong indication in that direction, but it seems that we will have to decide
wheather to stay on Fortè or start using Java.
Can someone shed some light on the subject.
TIA
LucaHi
I'm interested on the future of Fortè
I've heard that iPlanet (the new application server of SUN) does not support
forte and does not intend to do it.
So I'm wandering where Fortè will go.
I hoped to see Fortè integrating with Java and hoped that SUN wuold have given a
strong indication in that direction, but it seems that we will have to decide
wheather to stay on Fortè or start using Java.
Can someone shed some light on the subject.
TIA
Luca -
More specific to two questions
Hi,
First of all, many thanks to Rottier, Daniel, Geoff. Your ideas are
definitely useful.
Regarding two questions I posted yesterday, I’d like to give you more
background information so that it will make questions more specific.
Now we have a lot of applications (programs) written in either C, C++,
Java codes or Forte (maybe other language like VB). Our purpose is to
integrate all the codes written for the different platforms such as
Windows NT and UNIX together seamlessly through CORBA or CORBA-IIOP
(Internet Inter-Object Request Broker Protocol). The most difficulties
I have met so far are to pass an object by its value. As you know,
CORBA specifications, version 2, don’t support the concept “pass object
by value”. But currently, some of CORBA vendors such as Forte and Iona
(OrbixWeb) do extend the concept “pass by reference” and support the
concept “pass object by value” for Java Mode not for IDL (Interface
Definition Language) Mode. If we want to integrate all codes together
without the support of “pass object by value”, the following question I
need to answer is the garbage collection in the Forte server side. In
CORBA IDL mode, I have to set all IsAnchored attributes of all objects
to TRUE. Can these objects be garbage collected? If yes, how does the
garbage collection work?
Please note that the client (C, C++, Java or other language) and the
server (Forte) are written using different languages (not limited to
Forte)! The question I posted can be much complicated if the client and
server are written in the different languages and for the different
platforms (NT and UNIX) as well as applied to the distributed and
multithreaded environment.
To be exact, if one of the multiple remote C++ clients decides not to
access the objects (not limited to service objects) in the Forte server,
how does Forte garbage collection know what the client has done
automatically and garbage collect the object? It is known that CORBA
does not support garbage collection. Is there any functionality
provided by Forte to let itself be automatically notified? As we know,
COM and DCOM do have such kind of functionality. When you integrate
DCOM with your applications, at both sides (client and server), it is
DCOM who internally poll the object references periodically. How about
CORBA and Forte? Forte has integrated IIOP as its own built-in
component and supported VisiBroker and IONA CORBA products. My guess is
because Forte has IIOP built in itself (both sides have to run ORB), so
Forte has the full control over the whole running environment, and can
monitor the references to the objects, and apply the garbage collection
to the objects automatically. Is this true? Here are the key words:
multiple, remote (distributed), different platforms and languages,
CORBA-IIOP. We should take all of these things into our consideration.
I did find that there is a big difference between IsAnchored set to TRUE
and FALSE when I tried to integrate C++ client, Forte server and Java
client, Forte server. For the C++ client, you have to set IsAnchored
attributes of all kinds of objects to TRUE. Note that In Forte, the
service objects and the ordinary objects are treated differently. The
service objects are created by Compiler or Interpreter. It is
transparent to the users. The ordinary objects are created at run time,
garbage collection can be applied to. For Java client, you can either
set IsAnchored attribute to TRUE or FALSE depending on what you want
(access the services provided by Forte server side by value or
reference). This really answers the question: IsAnchored can control
pass object by value or reference, and really matches what you guys
talked about in your e-mail. My thoughts are that IsAnchored has
nothing to do with the garbage collection, otherwise this will disable
the garbage collection at all! Because I have to set all IsAnchored
attributes to TRUE at Forte server side for my C++ client, if the
garbage collection is really based on the IsAnchored attribute, this
means that the garbage collection is totally disabled for all those
objects with their IsAnchored attributes set to TRUE! Can anyone
confirm that? Don’t forget that this issue is raised in such
complicated environment! What I want to clarify is whether Forte does
provide such a garbage collection mechanism so nice, so smart to
automatically maintain a persistent object reference table or whatever
and deal with the garbage collection issue in such complicated
environment!
Believe this can make my questions much specific and clear. I’d like to
discuss more details about it.
Thank you again for your informative ideas.
Shi-Long, Yin
US West in Denver
Tel: 303-624-1305
e-mail: [email protected]
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Searchable thread archive <URL:http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/>Hi,
First of all, many thanks to Rottier, Daniel, Geoff. Your ideas are
definitely useful.
Regarding two questions I posted yesterday, I’d like to give you more
background information so that it will make questions more specific.
Now we have a lot of applications (programs) written in either C, C++,
Java codes or Forte (maybe other language like VB). Our purpose is to
integrate all the codes written for the different platforms such as
Windows NT and UNIX together seamlessly through CORBA or CORBA-IIOP
(Internet Inter-Object Request Broker Protocol). The most difficulties
I have met so far are to pass an object by its value. As you know,
CORBA specifications, version 2, don’t support the concept “pass object
by value”. But currently, some of CORBA vendors such as Forte and Iona
(OrbixWeb) do extend the concept “pass by reference” and support the
concept “pass object by value” for Java Mode not for IDL (Interface
Definition Language) Mode. If we want to integrate all codes together
without the support of “pass object by value”, the following question I
need to answer is the garbage collection in the Forte server side. In
CORBA IDL mode, I have to set all IsAnchored attributes of all objects
to TRUE. Can these objects be garbage collected? If yes, how does the
garbage collection work?
Please note that the client (C, C++, Java or other language) and the
server (Forte) are written using different languages (not limited to
Forte)! The question I posted can be much complicated if the client and
server are written in the different languages and for the different
platforms (NT and UNIX) as well as applied to the distributed and
multithreaded environment.
To be exact, if one of the multiple remote C++ clients decides not to
access the objects (not limited to service objects) in the Forte server,
how does Forte garbage collection know what the client has done
automatically and garbage collect the object? It is known that CORBA
does not support garbage collection. Is there any functionality
provided by Forte to let itself be automatically notified? As we know,
COM and DCOM do have such kind of functionality. When you integrate
DCOM with your applications, at both sides (client and server), it is
DCOM who internally poll the object references periodically. How about
CORBA and Forte? Forte has integrated IIOP as its own built-in
component and supported VisiBroker and IONA CORBA products. My guess is
because Forte has IIOP built in itself (both sides have to run ORB), so
Forte has the full control over the whole running environment, and can
monitor the references to the objects, and apply the garbage collection
to the objects automatically. Is this true? Here are the key words:
multiple, remote (distributed), different platforms and languages,
CORBA-IIOP. We should take all of these things into our consideration.
I did find that there is a big difference between IsAnchored set to TRUE
and FALSE when I tried to integrate C++ client, Forte server and Java
client, Forte server. For the C++ client, you have to set IsAnchored
attributes of all kinds of objects to TRUE. Note that In Forte, the
service objects and the ordinary objects are treated differently. The
service objects are created by Compiler or Interpreter. It is
transparent to the users. The ordinary objects are created at run time,
garbage collection can be applied to. For Java client, you can either
set IsAnchored attribute to TRUE or FALSE depending on what you want
(access the services provided by Forte server side by value or
reference). This really answers the question: IsAnchored can control
pass object by value or reference, and really matches what you guys
talked about in your e-mail. My thoughts are that IsAnchored has
nothing to do with the garbage collection, otherwise this will disable
the garbage collection at all! Because I have to set all IsAnchored
attributes to TRUE at Forte server side for my C++ client, if the
garbage collection is really based on the IsAnchored attribute, this
means that the garbage collection is totally disabled for all those
objects with their IsAnchored attributes set to TRUE! Can anyone
confirm that? Don’t forget that this issue is raised in such
complicated environment! What I want to clarify is whether Forte does
provide such a garbage collection mechanism so nice, so smart to
automatically maintain a persistent object reference table or whatever
and deal with the garbage collection issue in such complicated
environment!
Believe this can make my questions much specific and clear. I’d like to
discuss more details about it.
Thank you again for your informative ideas.
Shi-Long, Yin
US West in Denver
Tel: 303-624-1305
e-mail: [email protected]
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'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
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