Re: Forte /FileNet integration

Hi Jelic,
We, at the County of Alameda, are using Forte and FileNet for some time
now.
As I was not clear on what specific interface issues you are dealing with I
thought it is a good idea to decribe what we are doing and hopefully that
may answer some of your questions.
For now, we are using FileNet's workflo language i.e. WFL scripts for
interfacing with FileNet.
The interfacing issues are :
1. Logon to FileNet on the client (Win95)
For logging on to FileNet we are currently using a C program which is
launched by our Forte application and is passed the Username, Password.
This program gets the window handle of the Logon Window and pokes in the
username and password in the respective fields and logs on. Its a hack but
it works well.
2. Display Images in FileNet's Image viewer - we use Windows DDE.
3. Indexing of documents both scanned and generated.
We have a document generation system which uses a FileNet macro for MS-Word
to save a document to FileNet. We also use FileNet's Scanning software to
scan documents. Both of these use a barcode to facilitate indexing. The
Indexer Program written in Forte launches a WFL script to get the
barcode/docID pairs from FileNet's distributor queues and indexes it with
the application database. It also laucnhes another WFL script which removes
the entries from the distributor queues and puts it into a error queue if
it was not indexed.
Going forward, we are now working on using WAL API to interface with
FileNet.
1. For FileNet Logon and Display : we plan to wrap C calls implemented as
DLL functions.
2. For the Indexer program too, we plan to wrap all calls we need in C
implemented as a DLL. Since the WAL API is available for Unix (HP_UX in our
case) we may create a library on Unix and run the Indexer Application as a
service object instead. This is one of the reasons we are not considering
using ActiveX.
Hope this helps.
Nitish Khanapure
Sage I.T. Partners
(415) 3927243 x313
Email : [email protected]
From: Jelic, Nenad <[email protected]>
To: 'Harry Richards' <[email protected]>; ', [email protected]'
<,[email protected]>
Cc: Ngai, Stuart <[email protected]>; Low, Louis
<[email protected]>; Jelic, Nenad <[email protected]>; Kapauan,
David <[email protected]>; '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Forte /FileNet integration
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 12:04 PM
Thank you for quick response. We are using
VB app with ActiveX controls and FileNet Image viewer(connected through
DDE) = CLIENT
accsessing FileNet IMS and Oracle DB = SERVER that is working very well
VB App + FileNet ActiveX Controls (client)
<------------TCP/IP-----------> FileNetIMS + ORACLE (server)
POINT 1:
Our intend is to replace VB App (written by somebody else) with Forte.
I've got tech. notes (SMALL prototype) from Forte consultant (Valerie
Limpan)how to implement ActiveX controls on server side because we don't
like to use ActiveX on each desktop, only on server side. But this is
not so common(Forte recommends using ActiveX controls with window
classes on client side) and I am afraid to go with a real BIG project
using something that is not proven very well ?
Forte(Client) <-----> Forte + FileNet ActiveX Controls(server1)
<------------TCP/IP-----------> FileNetIMS + ORACLE(server2)
POINT 2:
Probably, we can use WAL(C libraries) instead ActiveX controls, but from
pdf files I can not find any example. 1300 pages. Do I have to print all
of this to get better understandig ?
POINT 3:
Also, Is FileNet willing to support us using ActiveX controls inside
Forte dev. enviroment and other way round?
POINT 4:
Is FileNet Panagan suite of products will make any difference to our
problem ?
Sorry if some of this statement are wrong. My experience with both
products is limited, but not with ActiveX and OO.
Again, thank you for your quick response. May be this more detail
explanation will help you to find some answers.
Regards,
Dr. Nenad Jelic
(416)359-6560
From: Harry Richards[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:36 AM
To: Jelic, Nenad
Subject: Re: Forte /FileNet integration
I have just joined Fort&eacute; from FileNET and so have a view on both
technologies, although I have not actually done any integration work.
Which
filenet products are you working with ?
You will find that both CSC and Sage, who host this mail forum are
involved
with or have already completed some integration with various filenet
products.
Regards,
Harry Richards
At 10:01 AM 2/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
We are trying to integrate Forte with FileNet software. Any experincein
real projects?
Using FileNet or any other ActiveX controls on server side ispossible,
but is not so common.
Regards,
Dr. Nenad Jelic(416)359-6560
[email protected]
----------

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    Il suffit de mettre les BTD/BTX sur un drive r&eacute;seau (net use X:
    \\server\share_point),
    puis d'installer des ic&ocirc;nes pour les clients: ftexec -fi bt:x:\MyApp.
    Pour que les noeuds ne s'auto-enregistrent pas, peut-&ecirc;tre mettre un password
    Ou bien d&eacute;finir les noeuds comme un 'groupe' et donc seul le groupe est
    connu.
    Si mettre le mot de passe suffit pas, et si vraiment le model node g&ecirc;ne,
    alors il
    faut un autre environment manager.
    I think that to avoid install, the software could be located on a shared
    drive,
    and users linking to it through running 'ftexec' or directly the compiled
    binaries.
    For nodes not to appear in the environment as nodes, they could be defined
    as members
    of a model node '(which then would be in the environmnet)'
    Putting a password in the environment could prevent nodes to be registered
    there, but
    might prevent the apps from being executed.
    Cheers,
    j-paul gabrielli
    Sema DTS
    -----Message d'origine-----
    De: Thomas Felix [mailto:tfelixaxialog.fr]
    Date: mardi 2 mai 2000 14:14
    &Agrave;: forte-userslists.xpedior.com
    Objet: (forte-users)
    bonjour a tous
    je souhaites installer une application distribu&eacute;e sur des postes clients.
    Y'a t'il moyen de ne pas installer les noeuds de ces postes clients sur l'
    active environnement li&eacute; au d&eacute;veloppement et si oui comment?
    hi
    I would like to install an application on clients workstation
    Can i install this nodes in a different Active environnement than this one
    that we use for the developpement ?
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  • How have people done Forte application to Forte applicationcommunicatio

    I was wondering what architectures folks have been using to do Forte
    application to Forte application integration on the client and at the server
    level?
    connected environments?
    CORBA/IIOP?
    Message Oriented Middleware?

    Hi,
    I have used MQSeries and CICS Client. They worked well, except that CICS Client
    is for little applications... Tuxedo has also good reputation.
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    asynchrone to support an application protocol with external connections. It
    works very well. For instance, It can be an alternative to connected
    environments, even for Forte Partitions (for example : you need to connect
    several thousands of Forte clients without having to maintain your central
    environment).
    For asynchrone communcation, and low cost and equipment (external clients, B to
    B, etc...) you can also use SMTP with external connections. If you use MIME base
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    protocol.
    Hope this helps,
    Daniel Nguyen
    Freelance Forte Consultant
    Edward.CarmodyLibertyMutual.com a &eacute;crit:
    I was wondering what architectures folks have been using to do Forte
    application to Forte application integration on the client and at the server
    level?
    connected environments?
    CORBA/IIOP?
    Message Oriented Middleware?
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  • R: (forte-users) ASP and Forté

    Hi Kenny,
    I suggest you to use XML in order to publish your Fort&eacute; services.
    There is a Fort&eacute; Library called HTTPDC that let you start up a listener that
    answer to HTTP Request.
    So you will have a ASP/Fort&eacute; integration via HTTP/XML
    Hope this helps.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: BOLIVARD Kenny <BOLIVARDPREVIADE.FR>
    To: <forte-userslists.xpedior.com>
    Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 8:43 AM
    Subject: (forte-users) ASP and Fort&eacute;
    Hi everybody!
    I'm a new Fort&eacute; developer, so i have some question about it, speciallyone:
    I want to access Fort&eacute; service objects through an ASP script. To be more
    precise, I want to get back some informations (like, for exemple, the
    information of a customer's account) from the Fort&eacute; world and to make-upthe
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    Is it possible writing an ASP script (in VisualBasic for example) witch
    calls Fort&eacute; service objects?
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    Any suggestions and explanations would be appreciated.
    Thank's in advance for your replies,
    Kenny,
    PREVIADE.
    France.
    Ps: Sorry for my bad english. ;))
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    Sorry for the mistake... I talked about the notification patner.
    Daniel Nguyen a &eacute;crit:
    Hi,
    Use the Notication patner. You can find a sample and some explanation on
    http://perso.club-internet.fr/dnguyen/
    Hope this helps,
    Daniel Nguyen
    DARTIGUENAVE Antoine a &eacute;crit:
    Bonjour,
    la gestion d'un cache de donn&eacute;es de r&eacute;f&eacute;rence dans une application TP
    serveur permet le raffraichissement
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    merci d'avance pour toute id&eacute;e sur ce sujet !
    Antoine Dartiguenave
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    I'm interested on the future of Fort&egrave;
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    strong indication in that direction, but it seems that we will have to decide
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    Luca

    Hi
    I'm interested on the future of Fort&egrave;
    I've heard that iPlanet (the new application server of SUN) does not support
    forte and does not intend to do it.
    So I'm wandering where Fort&egrave; will go.
    I hoped to see Fort&egrave; integrating with Java and hoped that SUN wuold have given a
    strong indication in that direction, but it seems that we will have to decide
    wheather to stay on Fort&egrave; or start using Java.
    Can someone shed some light on the subject.
    TIA
    Luca

  • More specific to two questions

    Hi,
    First of all, many thanks to Rottier, Daniel, Geoff. Your ideas are
    definitely useful.
    Regarding two questions I posted yesterday, I&rsquo;d like to give you more
    background information so that it will make questions more specific.
    Now we have a lot of applications (programs) written in either C, C++,
    Java codes or Forte (maybe other language like VB). Our purpose is to
    integrate all the codes written for the different platforms such as
    Windows NT and UNIX together seamlessly through CORBA or CORBA-IIOP
    (Internet Inter-Object Request Broker Protocol). The most difficulties
    I have met so far are to pass an object by its value. As you know,
    CORBA specifications, version 2, don&rsquo;t support the concept &ldquo;pass object
    by value&rdquo;. But currently, some of CORBA vendors such as Forte and Iona
    (OrbixWeb) do extend the concept &ldquo;pass by reference&rdquo; and support the
    concept &ldquo;pass object by value&rdquo; for Java Mode not for IDL (Interface
    Definition Language) Mode. If we want to integrate all codes together
    without the support of &ldquo;pass object by value&rdquo;, the following question I
    need to answer is the garbage collection in the Forte server side. In
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    to TRUE. Can these objects be garbage collected? If yes, how does the
    garbage collection work?
    Please note that the client (C, C++, Java or other language) and the
    server (Forte) are written using different languages (not limited to
    Forte)! The question I posted can be much complicated if the client and
    server are written in the different languages and for the different
    platforms (NT and UNIX) as well as applied to the distributed and
    multithreaded environment.
    To be exact, if one of the multiple remote C++ clients decides not to
    access the objects (not limited to service objects) in the Forte server,
    how does Forte garbage collection know what the client has done
    automatically and garbage collect the object? It is known that CORBA
    does not support garbage collection. Is there any functionality
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    COM and DCOM do have such kind of functionality. When you integrate
    DCOM with your applications, at both sides (client and server), it is
    DCOM who internally poll the object references periodically. How about
    CORBA and Forte? Forte has integrated IIOP as its own built-in
    component and supported VisiBroker and IONA CORBA products. My guess is
    because Forte has IIOP built in itself (both sides have to run ORB), so
    Forte has the full control over the whole running environment, and can
    monitor the references to the objects, and apply the garbage collection
    to the objects automatically. Is this true? Here are the key words:
    multiple, remote (distributed), different platforms and languages,
    CORBA-IIOP. We should take all of these things into our consideration.
    I did find that there is a big difference between IsAnchored set to TRUE
    and FALSE when I tried to integrate C++ client, Forte server and Java
    client, Forte server. For the C++ client, you have to set IsAnchored
    attributes of all kinds of objects to TRUE. Note that In Forte, the
    service objects and the ordinary objects are treated differently. The
    service objects are created by Compiler or Interpreter. It is
    transparent to the users. The ordinary objects are created at run time,
    garbage collection can be applied to. For Java client, you can either
    set IsAnchored attribute to TRUE or FALSE depending on what you want
    (access the services provided by Forte server side by value or
    reference). This really answers the question: IsAnchored can control
    pass object by value or reference, and really matches what you guys
    talked about in your e-mail. My thoughts are that IsAnchored has
    nothing to do with the garbage collection, otherwise this will disable
    the garbage collection at all! Because I have to set all IsAnchored
    attributes to TRUE at Forte server side for my C++ client, if the
    garbage collection is really based on the IsAnchored attribute, this
    means that the garbage collection is totally disabled for all those
    objects with their IsAnchored attributes set to TRUE! Can anyone
    confirm that? Don&rsquo;t forget that this issue is raised in such
    complicated environment! What I want to clarify is whether Forte does
    provide such a garbage collection mechanism so nice, so smart to
    automatically maintain a persistent object reference table or whatever
    and deal with the garbage collection issue in such complicated
    environment!
    Believe this can make my questions much specific and clear. I&rsquo;d like to
    discuss more details about it.
    Thank you again for your informative ideas.
    Shi-Long, Yin
    US West in Denver
    Tel: 303-624-1305
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    Hi,
    First of all, many thanks to Rottier, Daniel, Geoff. Your ideas are
    definitely useful.
    Regarding two questions I posted yesterday, I&rsquo;d like to give you more
    background information so that it will make questions more specific.
    Now we have a lot of applications (programs) written in either C, C++,
    Java codes or Forte (maybe other language like VB). Our purpose is to
    integrate all the codes written for the different platforms such as
    Windows NT and UNIX together seamlessly through CORBA or CORBA-IIOP
    (Internet Inter-Object Request Broker Protocol). The most difficulties
    I have met so far are to pass an object by its value. As you know,
    CORBA specifications, version 2, don&rsquo;t support the concept &ldquo;pass object
    by value&rdquo;. But currently, some of CORBA vendors such as Forte and Iona
    (OrbixWeb) do extend the concept &ldquo;pass by reference&rdquo; and support the
    concept &ldquo;pass object by value&rdquo; for Java Mode not for IDL (Interface
    Definition Language) Mode. If we want to integrate all codes together
    without the support of &ldquo;pass object by value&rdquo;, the following question I
    need to answer is the garbage collection in the Forte server side. In
    CORBA IDL mode, I have to set all IsAnchored attributes of all objects
    to TRUE. Can these objects be garbage collected? If yes, how does the
    garbage collection work?
    Please note that the client (C, C++, Java or other language) and the
    server (Forte) are written using different languages (not limited to
    Forte)! The question I posted can be much complicated if the client and
    server are written in the different languages and for the different
    platforms (NT and UNIX) as well as applied to the distributed and
    multithreaded environment.
    To be exact, if one of the multiple remote C++ clients decides not to
    access the objects (not limited to service objects) in the Forte server,
    how does Forte garbage collection know what the client has done
    automatically and garbage collect the object? It is known that CORBA
    does not support garbage collection. Is there any functionality
    provided by Forte to let itself be automatically notified? As we know,
    COM and DCOM do have such kind of functionality. When you integrate
    DCOM with your applications, at both sides (client and server), it is
    DCOM who internally poll the object references periodically. How about
    CORBA and Forte? Forte has integrated IIOP as its own built-in
    component and supported VisiBroker and IONA CORBA products. My guess is
    because Forte has IIOP built in itself (both sides have to run ORB), so
    Forte has the full control over the whole running environment, and can
    monitor the references to the objects, and apply the garbage collection
    to the objects automatically. Is this true? Here are the key words:
    multiple, remote (distributed), different platforms and languages,
    CORBA-IIOP. We should take all of these things into our consideration.
    I did find that there is a big difference between IsAnchored set to TRUE
    and FALSE when I tried to integrate C++ client, Forte server and Java
    client, Forte server. For the C++ client, you have to set IsAnchored
    attributes of all kinds of objects to TRUE. Note that In Forte, the
    service objects and the ordinary objects are treated differently. The
    service objects are created by Compiler or Interpreter. It is
    transparent to the users. The ordinary objects are created at run time,
    garbage collection can be applied to. For Java client, you can either
    set IsAnchored attribute to TRUE or FALSE depending on what you want
    (access the services provided by Forte server side by value or
    reference). This really answers the question: IsAnchored can control
    pass object by value or reference, and really matches what you guys
    talked about in your e-mail. My thoughts are that IsAnchored has
    nothing to do with the garbage collection, otherwise this will disable
    the garbage collection at all! Because I have to set all IsAnchored
    attributes to TRUE at Forte server side for my C++ client, if the
    garbage collection is really based on the IsAnchored attribute, this
    means that the garbage collection is totally disabled for all those
    objects with their IsAnchored attributes set to TRUE! Can anyone
    confirm that? Don&rsquo;t forget that this issue is raised in such
    complicated environment! What I want to clarify is whether Forte does
    provide such a garbage collection mechanism so nice, so smart to
    automatically maintain a persistent object reference table or whatever
    and deal with the garbage collection issue in such complicated
    environment!
    Believe this can make my questions much specific and clear. I&rsquo;d like to
    discuss more details about it.
    Thank you again for your informative ideas.
    Shi-Long, Yin
    US West in Denver
    Tel: 303-624-1305
    e-mail: [email protected]
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